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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 02:59 PM
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For those who think John Kerry doesn't care about the election:
He wrote a letter which was added to the official Congressional Record on the objection last Thursday. As much as some might wish, Kerry isn't a wizard or other magical being; he doesn't have the ability to make everything turn out all right. He is,however, able to deal with life realistically, doing what he can, and that's all we can expect of him:

1. Senator Kerry's Statement which was entered into the record during the debate on the Elector Objection:


Mr. KERRY. Mr. President, free and fair elections are the foundation of our democracy. Thanks to the efforts of tens of thousands of citizens, millions more Americans registered and went to the pools this year. But despite this dramatic expansion in public participation, many voters faced barriers to casting their ballot. Disenfranchisement and barriers to voting are fundamentally undemocratic and should be unacceptable in the freest nation in the world.
On November 3, I conceded the Presidential election to George Bush and also expressed my commitment to ensuring that every vote in this election is counted. The questions being raised by my colleagues in Congress about the vote in Ohio are important. As evidenced by the media and Congressman JOHN CONYERS' report of the vote in Ohio, there were many voting irregularities in the November election that led to the disenfranchisement of voters. These included long lines at predominantly minority polling places resulting from the failure to provide sufficient number of voting machines; voter intimidation and misinformation; the restriction of provisional ballots in a fashion that likely disenfranchised voters; and instances in which malfunctioning voting machines transferred Kerry votes to Bush.

I strongly believe that we need to investigate this election and reform our system. However, while I am deeply concerned about the issues the questions and issues being raised by this objection and think they are very important, I do not believe that there is sufficient evidence to support the objection and change the outcome of the election and I am not joining their protest of the Ohio electors.

Despite widespread reports of irregularities, questionable practices by some election officials and instances of lawful voters being denied the right to vote, our legal teams on the ground have found no evidence that would change the outcome of the election.

It is critical that we investigate and understand any and every voting irregularity anywhere in our country, not because it would change the outcome of the election but because Americans have to believe that their votes are counted in our democracy.

We must take action this Congress to make sure that the problems voters encountered in Ohio and elsewhere never happen again. We must make sure there are no questions or doubts in future elections. It is critical to our democracy that we investigate and act to prevent voting irregularities and voter intimidation across the country.

I strongly support the efforts of the civil rights and voting rights groups across the country that continue to investigate what happened in 2004 and how we can ensure it will never happen again. A Presidential election is a national Federal election but we have different standards in different States for casting and counting votes. We must have a national Federal standard to solve the problems that occurred in the 2004 election.

I am calling on my Republican colleagues to put election reform on the congressional agenda this year. The Republican leadership in the House and Senate must commit to make protecting voting rights a priority and commit to adding election reform legislation to the legislative calendar this year. One goal must be to eliminate barriers to voting, to encourage the greatest level of civic participation possible, and to restore confidence in the notion that every eligible voter will have the opportunity to vote and to have their vote counted.

I have spoken with Democratic Senate Leader Harry Reid and my colleagues in the House and Senate about my intention to introduce legislation this year to ensure transparency and accountability in our voting system and the need for the Democratic Caucus to make voting rights and electoral reform one of our top priority pieces of legislation. Election reform will be one of my top agenda items.

I will be meeting in coming weeks with key leaders on both sides of the aisle and from civil rights and voting rights groups across the Nation. I plan to use the information gathered by Representative Conyers in his report, and information from other investigations underway, to guide my legislation.

We must invest resources in our country to help State and local communities purchase modern voting machines and do research and development on safe and secure forms of voting. We must ensure that our voting machines enable voters to verify their vote.

No American citizen should wake up the morning after the election and worry their vote wasn't counted. No citizen should be denied at the polls if they are eligible to vote. As the greatest, wealthiest nation on Earth, our citizens should not have to be forced to vote on old unaccountable voting machines. And, as the greatest, wealthiest Nation on Earth, our citizens should never be forced to vote on old, unaccountable and nontransparent voting machines from companies controlled by partisan activists.

Together we can put the critical issue of electoral reform on the front burner in Washington and across the country.


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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:01 PM
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1. thanks for sharing this
he hit on the points that bother me the most.
I feel not quite so abandoned by him now.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:02 PM
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2. Too little, too late and too much blab
but that's about what I would expect from Kerry.
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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:11 PM
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3. Get back to the real world
Edited on Mon Jan-10-05 03:11 PM by Pawel K
There was no change the results of the election were going to change; if you believed that you were setting yourself up for disappointment. I prayed that Kerry would be able to get elected but I had to face reality and so did Kerry. The media ignored election irregularities which is an outrage; so now what Kerry is going to do is lead the fight in election reform. If he complains about Bush stealing the election instead of actually changing the system we will have problems in every election.

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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:13 PM
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4. "I strongly support..."
"I strongly support the efforts of the civil rights and voting rights groups across the country that continue to investigate what happened in 2004 and how we can ensure it will never happen again."

Just how, in what way, exactly?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:21 PM
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5. First things first
I am heartened to hear he was observing with Jimmy Carter the Palestinian election. Jimmy knows how to do an election up right. That I think is the first step to figuring out what we need here.

Someone posted last night that Jimmy Carter couldn't observe the American election as part of his group because we don't even meet the basic requirements to begin.

Kerry has said he intends to introduce legislation. I will expect to see movement in that direction, either in the form of fact finding such as he was doing in the M.E., or in the form of actual legislation. To early to get terribly specific, I'm afraid.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:27 PM
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6. You asked
Just how, in what way, exactly?

By statements such as this, by introducing upcoming legislation -- you have trouble understanding the statement?

What are your suggestions for what Kerry should do now?
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 07:26 PM
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14. No Dem can introduce upcoming legislation if they try they
will be called out of order. Have you not been watching cspan for the last 4 years? Not a single Dem law has gotten out of committee wake up they are just wasting time. They should set up a government in exile somewhere close and propose and pass legislation, of course it will have no effect, but it will show the American people what they would do if in power. I suggested they do this after the 2000 theft to no avail.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:30 PM
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7. I am in the real world
and from my standpoint, Kerry didn't fight or even run a competent campaign. I knew the voter fraud issue wasn't going to take flight. And do you really think Kerry will fight for that when he wouldn't even defend his Vietnam record from Bush when he was running for President?
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:44 PM
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8. What about his Vietnam record did he need to defend?
You are arguing out of their (the Repubs) framework.It was Bush's record that needed not only defending, but explaining. Kerry perhaps, in retrospect, should have called the Swiftboaters on their repugnant lying, but his record needed no defending. It spoke for itself--which the press, if they'd been honest, could have readily laid out.

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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:47 PM
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9. Would you have chosen
Edited on Mon Jan-10-05 03:49 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
to fight in Vietnam, then in the fast boats, and then against the Vietnam war?

Would you have led the investigation into the malfeasance and prosecution of the BCCI bank, knowing its connections with drug-dealing, money-laundering, the CIA, etc?

If so, maybe your questioning of John Kerry's courage and intelligence would not sound so pathetic and shameful.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 03:55 PM
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10. There are two statements on JK's Senate website, too

Below is a statement from Senator John Kerry on the Congressional certification of Electoral College results:

Wednesday, January 5, 2005

“On November 3, I conceded the presidential election to George Bush and also expressed my commitment to ensuring that every vote in this election is counted. While I am deeply concerned about the issues being highlighted by my colleagues in Congress and citizens across the country and support their efforts to highlight the need to ensure voting rights, I will not be joining their protest of the Ohio Electors.

“As Representative John Conyers’ (D-Mich.) recently released voting rights report shows, there are very troubling questions that have not yet been answered by Ohio election officials. I have supported and will continue to support a close examination of voting irregularities in Ohio and elsewhere because it’s critical to our democracy.

“As I have committed, in the coming months I will present a national proposal to ensure transparency and accountability in our voting process. I plan to use the information gathered by Representative Conyers in his report, and information from other investigations underway, to guide my legislation. It will be one of my top agenda items. I ask the Republican leadership, and all those concerned about voting rights, to join this effort so that we act on reform this year.

“I will continue to strongly support the efforts of the civil rights and voting rights groups across the country that continue to investigate what happened in 2004 and how we can ensure it will never happen again.

“I am currently traveling in the Middle East to thank our troops for their service, and I am reminded once again of the power of democracy and fair and free elections. All American citizens should have the confidence that their vote was counted. Our democracy depends on it.” ###

http://kerry.senate.gov/high/record.cfm?id=230432


Senator John Kerry’s Statement on Election Reform



Wednesday, December 8, 2004


WASHINGTON, D.C. –Senator John Kerry released the following statement today on election reform:

"It's critical that we investigate and understand any and every voting irregularity anywhere in our country, not because it would change the outcome of the election but because Americans have to believe that their votes are counted in our democracy. We should be working together to reform the system because it should be unacceptable to anyone, Democrat or Republican, that in the United States many people still don't have full confidence in the integrity of the voting process. I want every vote counted in this election, but I also want to make sure there are no questions or doubts in future elections. That's not too much to ask in the world's greatest democracy and model for free elections."

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http://kerry.senate.gov/bandwidth/cfm/record.cfm?id=229965
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 04:00 PM
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11. Kerry should have been in D.C.
1/6/05 Was the time when the Democrats as a party should have stood up
and said "We are not going to take your crap anymore." And that includes
Senator Kerry. Nothing can change that. Those were FACTS in Conyers' report.
You would have forced the repugs to defend the indefensible. Instead w/ Kerry
AWOL from his promise to fight election fraud and theft a compliant media will
quickly push the 2004 vote from focus. And when they do speak of it, it will
be in terms of irregularities and the issue is being driven by bloggers who
can not accept reality.

Sometimes I feel like I am in a bad movie which has a plot like this.
You see a murder, you know it happened, and you can't get anybody
to believe you. I saw and heard vote fraud in Ohio. It happened. End of
story.

So what if "they" called him a sore loser or anything else. "They" called him
a traitor and every other name in the book already.

We have to stand up to these evil bastards, now. Last January the repugs were
caught hacking into the democrats computers on capital hill and reading their
private files. If the democrats had stood up as one and walked out of the
Capital and demanded that the persons behind that crime be punished and
see who was using this stolen information that would have been political dynamite.
But, no they just had the, "go along to get along" attitude and didn't do squat.

The Boxer Rebellion demands a fire in the belly and back bone. Sadly I failed
to see it out of a man I admire and worked for.

:kick:



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myschkin Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 04:35 PM
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12. I don't

see through this game.

Is he not informed (I thought Arnebeck HAS proof) or does he want do it in a clever way?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 04:43 PM
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13. Probably the oNLY way to get a real investigation and force transparency
for future elections.

If he does that alone, he will have helped to preserve democracy, itself.
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