Has anyone heard the status of woman that was arrested in the galley for

[bush_is_wacko]

yelling out at one of the Thugs that spoke during the Ohio electoral challenge? I hope she is getting the help she needs!

[MadLinguist]

1. The one who yelled "Did not!"

When the GhastlyOilyPuke Senator claimed once again that the people of Ohio had voted for Double-fuck? I've been wondering about her. She was arrested? Did anybody see her taken away?

[bush_is_wacko]

2. There was a poster that said she saw her and she was being arraigned on

Friday. Some people were trying to get her some help through the ACLU or a pro bono (sp?) lawyer. I hope she got that help. I haven't heard anything since.

[dzika]

3. She is home now but...

she has to go back for court and stands to serve 180 days to 6 months.

I was told that Senator Voinovich had to sign for her to be arrested. Someone suggested that if enough of us contacted Voinovich then he might back off since she is from his own state (Ohio).

The last time I asked, she didn't have a lawyer yet.

[dzika]

4. Another thing...

She was given a map outlining the areas in DC (like the Capitol) where she can NEVER go again.

Guilty until proved guilty.

[bush_is_wacko]

5. OMG! That is insane!

I'll be happy to write to Voinovich, but I'm not a constituent. Did anyone contact the ACLU? That poor woman! Why are they banning her? She didn't say anything threatening that I heard. Did she ever threaten anyone?

[MadLinguist]

6. If you actually know how to contact her

I think her story is the kind that Amy Goodman on "Democracy Now!" would like to air. She needs legal protection and one way to put pressure is to make people aware of what drastic steps the GOPs will take to silence any form of dissent. How can these restrictions possibly be legal?

[zapped 1]

8. maybe Will Pitt could write something quickly

to get the ball rolling.

[MadLinguist]

11. Hell, Somebody!

This is ridiculous. Whatever happnes with her case, even if the arrest is ruled as unlawful -- which it was -- revolting crap like this has to be exposed.

[all.of.me]

41. Freepress.org

I wrote to them and asked them to look into it. They are in Columbus, Ohio.

http://www.freepress.org/

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

9. And we live in the "La nd of the Free"? Not!

Facism is alive and growing.

[Salomonity]

59. mm?

If she tried to interrupt a judge while court was in session, she'd go to prison without a trial. If elected representatives aren't allowed to speak without interruption in Congress, our democracy is just mob rule, slightly decorated.

This is an absolutely fundamental principle of republican government --I mean republican with a small r--a legislator MUST be allowed to speak when he has the floor.

This isn't GOP fascism--I'd bet heavily this rule has been on the books for two centuries.

[emcguffie]

70. They're pretty noisy over in UK.

Lots of comments from the gallery, at least for the PM. Doesn't faze them.

[Salomonity]

79. we're not the UK

The US and Britain really have different political climates--things are much more civil in Britian, respect for process is much greater. Just an obvious metric: we've had four presidents assassinated, and many close calls. They've had one prime minister, and no monarchs, assassinated in the last 3 centuries.

I don't believe that a prime minister has ever been shouted down, and unable to speak, because of comments from a gallery. If you're aware of such an incident, I'd be interested to know about it.

[genieroze]

21. I wonder how many of us will get one of those?

Just give me you hard earned tax dollars, screw your rights.

[Liberty Belle]

23. That can't be legal! Outrageous.

Call Air America and the ACLU NOW!!!!! Massive public outrage is called for on this one.

[Salomonity]

58. of course it's legal

She was trying to disrupt a congressional debate. We have an ironclad rule in this country--NOBODY disrupts Congress: that means, shut up, an elected Congressmember is talking. There's a really really good reason why we have this rule. The alternative is to have mobs in the Capitol intimidating the legislature. How would you feel if GOP apparatchiks were interrupting Dem speakers every time they try to talk?

This is how the Reign of Terror got going in France--the elected assembly got intimidated by the Paris mob. With that example in mind, Congress very early took steps to insulate itself from that sort of undemocratic pressure.

What that woman did was really inexcusable, she deserves whatever she's going to get.

If she tried to do something like that in any court in the country, she might not even get a trial: she'd be jailed for contempt.

[K3RRY1]

60. Thank you for the most useful post in this thread.

[Salomonity]

61. you're more than welcome

It just frustrates me--any time the GOP does something people here don't like, they want to throw out really vital institutional safeguards, and truly important laws and regulations, in the name of having their way. We can outlast the GOP and the Bush administration if people keep their heads and act reasonably. We will surely destroy ourselves if we insist on ignoring everything society has ever learned about good government in the name of getting our way, now.

My principle is to always picture things with parties reversed--how would we feel if they did it to us? It upsets a lot of people here, but I think it's necessary to always ask yourself that.

[nashville_brook]

71. whoops -- wrong post

[Pacifist Patriot]

68. Okay, I'll stick my neck out.

If the situation were reversed and Republican hecklers were shouting down the Democrats standing up to support election reform would we be as supportive or would we be delighted they were facing charges of disrupting Congress?

I'm glad she said it and support her decision to say it, but if there are consequences she needs to be prepared to face them. Perhaps fighting the charge will bring some publicity to the proceedings?

I'm not heartless, I don't want to see her go to jail but I can also see the argument of not allowing the gallery to disrupt congressional proceedings. Sticky line to walk.

[troubleinwinter]

81. HAH! During the electoral debate,

the Repubs were CONSTANTLY disrupting the Democratic speakers. The gavel came down again and again, and the Speaker said over and over, "Please take your conversations off the floor, please take your conversations off the floor."

It ONLY happened to the Dem speakers by the Repub members. It was disruptive and incredibly rude.

One thing for a member of the public to speak up (a protestor), quite another for members of one party in the House to deliberately and repeatedly disrupt the speakers of the other party of the House.

[Salomonity]

83. they're elected

Members of congress play by UTTERLY different rules from the general public in this respect. They were elected, they're members of the body, the public is not. According to the constitution

"For any speech or debate in either House, shall not be questioned in any other place " The public does NOT share this privilege. THe entire genius of the American system is that elected representatives hold these debates--the general public is emphatically not invited. For 200 years, it's been flatly prohibited for a nonmember to speak from the floor in either chamber. If you want a voice in congressional debate, get yourself elected.

I was watching C-SPAN, and couldn't tell which members were being disruptive. I'd be interested to see evidence it was only Republicans.

[keepthemhonest]

87. go troubleinwinter!

Yes this is ok ,but a poor little citizen,throw her to the wolves.

why is it they can quickly bring this woman to justice but we can't get the this fraud thing investigated.Arrrrrhhg

[ValleyGirl]

28. !!

For real? Just because she yelled out "Did not"? Good freaking grief. Fascist State here we come.

[Eye_on_prize]

52. I think it's called an 'exclusion order' , more commonly used against ...

...homeless people or suspected drug dealers, but now against protesters and then against...

..first they came for the homeless people...

[TR Fan]

12. 180 days TO 6 months? n/t

[Liberty Belle]

19. :kick:! Deluge the Rep who signed the arrest order.

Tell him you're going to contact the Ohio media and make him look like a real thug for having a citizen arrested merely for speaking the truth. Then do it.

:kick: :kick:

[MadLinguist]

26. So, Dzika

Can you please come back and tell us if you've contacted this woman, or something about how you know what you've said? This is pretty thin info to hand off to anyone who would like to help out by getting this thing some coverage. Where are you?

[dzika]

75. My friend gave her a ride home from DC

I haven't heard anything since then. I left a message to get more info.

[AngryAmish]

76. Isn't 180 days = 6 months?

[jfern]

35. That's fucking it

They're going to have to arrest all 59 million of us.

[loudsue]

46. Don't think for one minute that they wouldn't LOVE to do that!!

They can't wait to put all "liberals" in concentration camps. You hear it on the corporate news networks 24/7.... whether they say it outright, or just by implication, that all things "liberal" are BAAAAAAAAAAD!

:kick:

[pbartch]

54. There are not enough prisons (concentration camps) for 50 million people.

and they don't have enough $$$$ to build them, employ prison guards etc.

[KansDem]

67. They'll use the "prison" of finance...

The widening gap between rich and poor will help to isolate those in the "poor" category and place them into another kind of prison: financial. Consider changes in the tax code* (ala Bush): fewer taxes for the wealthy and more financial burden for the non-wealthy. Just arresting this woman could put her into a financial hardship that she might never recover from. Consider that the loss of a paycheck (or several paychecks) or job, legal expenses, inability to pay mortgage/rent, utilities, insurance, etc., could put her so far behind that she'll be "in prison" for years, or decades, to come.

________
*Also consider changes in finance law that benefits the wealthy and connected as well as the GOP penchant for "fees" as an alternative to taxes...

[AngryAmish]

77. That is when the death camps start

[zapped 1]

7. sickening

KICK

[Vektor]

10. Voinovich...

..is a horrid, cancerous blemish, and if that woman can be arrested for speaking the truth, and that luke-warm bag of dog vomit actually signed for it, we truly are living is a fascist society.

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest Voinovich's groin!! He's a rotten liar anyway!

[mtnester]

13. I agree and I think you were too kind

for those of you that think writing to Voinovitch will get you anywhere, good luck. He is the most callous, SOB you would want to meet. Even DeWine thinks he sucks.

Voinovitch would pull his own fingernails out one by one rather than back down on this...if you all get him to change his mind, you must be holding one of his family members hostage.

Come to think of it that may not even work.

Ohio native - I know of what I speak

[genieroze]

18. I guess Diebold voted him in, that or the people who voted for him are

idiots.

[Vektor]

37. I held back...

If I told you how I really feel about the arrogant schmuck, I'd get banned.

[Liberty Belle]

20. Send this story to your local media. Anybody got a video?

For the local TV folks.

[zerostar]

14. Cany someone post this in a new thread?

Sorry to hijack, came across this page and this one vide made me cry...

http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobush/iMovieTheater145.html


There are also some other good ones linked up top...

Hope someone can post this as a new thread if you think its worthy, no its not my site.

thanks

[Lauri]

16. Great Link.

Very powerful clip. Thanks for posting it.

[alittlelark]

25. I believe it was a Move-On ad (?).....

I saw it a year or so ago, and it is still an emotional experience to watch again....

If you wish I will repost it in GD w/ credits.

[all.of.me]

42. This guy is great! Watch all his movies! n/t

[kath]

15. 3 to 6 months in jail?!?! WTF? What is she being charged with??

[Name removed]

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[mirandapriestly]

17. What law did she break?

This is outrageous!

[drummer55]

32. Kick and a question

What is the charge?


If they start arresting citizens for speaking out maybe its time to start arresting them. Can we citizen arrest federal officials? Or is that technically a revolution?


makes for an interesting read

http://www.constitution.org/grossack/arrest.htm

[Liberty Belle]

22. Call Air America and ask them to help.

They can get zillions of viewers calling Voinovich, local and national media. Be sure to tell them the part about her being banned from parts of DC without even being convicted of anything.

[alittlelark]

24. Can someone please post a link??

Hubby needs to know....

[me b zola]

44. I can't remember where I read it

I do remember that she is either a teacher or a professor in Ohio. It sounded as though she was not trying to disrupt, but had an involuntary response to what she was hearing!

I agree that a link with more info would be most helpful in our efforts to assist her.

[yodermon]

27. kick

because, well, oh My God.

[Amaryllis]

29. kick

[progressoid]

30. Wouldn't it be nice to have one of those Frank Capra moments

when the underdog wins. This fascist/1984 crap is getting tiresome.

[centerzu]

31. Cam Kerry is a lawyer, says his thread on this page. n/t

[Helga Scow Stern]

33. Her name and profession were posted a few days ago. She is a college

professor.

[mirandapriestly]

34. A college professor?

Shades of the Intelligentsia

[Carolab]

36. I don't suppose Olbermann would touch this?

Or would he?

[Vektor]

38. Someone needs to...

...this is like living in a police state.

[HeeBGBz]

40. Nope. This IS a police state

[Carolab]

39. What about these two CodePink women who "disrupted Congress"?

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2002/10/43352.html

In 2002. They were held for 5 hours and got only a citation.

[helderheid]

43. Seriously

We need to help her out if we can. Does someone have a link to the video that we can email to MM, KO, AAR?

[bush_is_wacko]

45. Try this link on air America. I am looking aroud for others to contact.

I'm sure they'll want FACTS so it should be a witness or the woman herself.

http://www.air-america.org/About/Contact_Us.shtml



<<spip>>


Last Updated on Thursday December 02, 2004 Contact

UsPresident: Boyd Mesecher
Vice President: Ted Mauldin
General Secretary & Board Member: Judith E. Porter
Membership Secretary: Jane Mullins
Treasurer: Patty Sherman
Nominating Committee Chairman and Chaplin: Mike Kandt
Archive Chairman: Jesse Walton
Stockroom Sales: Dan Gamelin
Board Member: E. G.
Adams Board Member: John Melton
Stamp Committee Chairman: Jeff Blanchard
Air America Log Editor: Sandi McRainey
Website Manager: Barbara Thielen

INFO@ Changes In the past, you could send a message to everyone listed above, to include past association presidents, by sending an email message to [e-mail]. On the previous servers, a message sent to this address was automatically forwarded to this specified list of recipients. The new server (which triples our web space at 2/3 the previous cost) does not allow for this function. You may still contact everyone listed above by clicking on the green text "[e-mail]" links located on all Air America Web Pages. But if you type the info@ address in your email recipient list, it will not work.

Some web browsers might not accept the string of e-mail addresses that make up the "info@" list and your e-mail will probably default to the first address on the list, that of Boyd Mesecher, the current president. Alternatively, you may set up a group address list in your own e-mail program to accommodate sending mail to everyone listed above. Finally, you may send an e-mail to Sandra McRainey or Barbara Thielen and ask that the mail be forwarded to whomever you wish. We apologize for the change in the way "info" works.

<<end snip>>

[helderheid]

47. that's the wrong website

www.airamericaradio.com is correct.

[bush_is_wacko]

48. Thanks! I'll look through this one. n/t

[bush_is_wacko]

49. Here is the Ohio ACLU contact information

they do not respond to emails regarding need for a lawyer. I remember hearing the woman was from Ohio. Hopefuly this is the right chapter for her.

http://www.aclu.org/Affiliates/SubsiteDetail.cfm?Subsite=Ohio

<<snip>>
The following contact information is for the Ohio affiliate of the American Civil Liberties Union. While you can contact the affiliate directly, you can also read about some of work that the affiliate is engaged in by clicking on one of the links on the left and right of this page.
<<end snipp>>

ACLU of OhioExecutive Director: Christine Link 4506 Chester AvenueCleveland, OH 44103 Phone: [phone]

[bush_is_wacko]

50. Here is the contact page for Air America. Sorry the previous one was

not right. This page has a phone #, email, and written contact listed. Let us know what happens please. I am willing to call and write whever needs to be called and written.

http://www.airamericaradio.com/contact.asp

[uppityperson]

51. Calm down everyone. This is a legend until we get proof.

Does anyone have a link? Has anyone talked DIRECTLY with this woman or just heard about her? Get a grip. We have enough to work on and worry about without being distracted by rumors or urban legends. I too believe the worst about this administration and am ready to jump on the bashing wagon (mixed metaphor), but I want a link to a story or other proof. Thank you all.

[katalyst]

53. She's going to post her own statement over the next couple days

The charge was disruption of congress. Originally we were told by the door guards that seated us that she would be held for 3 hours and released. Instead she was held over until late the next afternoon because she was from out of state. The charge carries 3-6 months if she's found guilty. She will be well represented for her trial in March. I think all else should come from her.

[helderheid]

55. holy hell

Well, I've got her back.

[bush_is_wacko]

56. Thank you. I was worried. I'm glad she found help. I will be waiting

to hear from her. Please keep us posted.

[newyawker99]

65. Hi katalyst!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[hootinholler]

57. I'm sorry but...

For the last 2 days I've seen this thread and the song "Someone's in the kitchen with Dinah" starts running through my head.

I am very glad to hear she will be well represented.

-Hoot

[Salomonity]

62. she deserved it.

This is an absolutely fundamental principle of republican government --I mean republican with a small r--a legislator MUST be allowed to speak when he has the floor.

This isn't GOP fascism--I'd bet heavily this rule has been on the books for two centuries.

It would be a mockery of democracy if an elected member of congress could be shouted at by a spectator--it would make elected government always subject to the whims of a mob.

How would you feel if the next time a Democrat rose to speak a GOP heckler shouted her down?

Congress MUST be allowed to maintain order in its own chambers. Every court in the country has the authority to arrest people who are being disruptive--and if you disrupt any court in the land, you don't even get a trial before they jail you.

[emcguffie]

72. I'll answer you here, too.

Ever seen what happens at question time in British Parliament? They're really raucous, and it doesn't faze the PM at all.

We need a question time of our own. Some answers from our elected officials, and a chance for the other side to yell at them.

[bush_is_wacko]

78. It is time for political evolution in this country.

I have said it before and I'll say it again. It is time for America to evolve like the very highly educated country it has become. Our Constitution was written with the assumption that poor, uneducated people would not have the means to make it to the polls and vote. It took as long as a year for some citizens to learn of the newly elected President back then, if they even cared.

America has evolved a great deal in that time, but Republicans would like to remain in that state forever. They have fought AGAINST every step toward evolution for decades. England isn't the only place that allows citizen participation. England's system has evolved even though the governing body is mostly composed of blue-bloods who look down their noses at peasant-like lineage.

I am disgusted by BOTH the harshness of the sentence AND the belief system that made Voinovich think it was OK to do this to a citizen of The United States of America!

[Salomonity]

82. is that the gallery

I've seen MPs get pretty raucous. I've NEVER seen the citizens do that.
I have no problem with elected representatives being forceful in debate.

But to allow anybody to shout down an elected representative of the people, while congress is in session--that's another matter entirely.

[steelyboo]

73. I will no doubt agree that you are correct about the rule, and the

reasoning for it. However, I think the outrage here is over the severity of the penalty. Civil Disobedience should be a strict liability crime, like a traffic ticket, and disposed of as such. If they are to get violent, libelous, etc. there are plenty of other laws to take care of that instance. What she did does not rise to the level of ever even considering 6 months.

[Salomonity]

80. why not? it's a jail term for contempt of court

Surely disrupting the highest deliberative body in the land should have a more serious penalty than disrupting a village court--but village judges can have people imprisoned without trial for disrupting their proceedings.

[steelyboo]

85. Well, that is where we will have to agree to disagree.

I think you would need to look at the time, place, and manner of the speech, along with what resulted from her speaking. I don't think the guy hardly paused, so where is the injury?

[Name removed]

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[steelyboo]

92. and in reality, a judge would call for order first, they are not that

draconian as to send someone to jail without warning. Like most on here said, typically, she would be held a few hours tops, not 6 months. Face it, Voin is being a grade "A" dick, why you are defending him still is beyond me. I understand that in all technical senses he is correct, the problem is in reality and practicality, he's being a dick, and I hope it bites him in the ass later.

[troubleinwinter]

84. How would you feel if the next time a Democrat rose to speak a GOP heckler

Kindly see post #80. This woman was on her way out... she was removing herself. I didn't see any Republican House members arrested for their disruption of Democratic speakers.

[Name removed]

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[MadLinguist]

63. According to these posts, her name is Tracy Wallach

and she first yells "Did not" and then "That's a lie", during Voinvich's 5 minutes. You can hear it on the vdoe clips provided. Voinvich is after Dodd.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x265184

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x263907#264232

[helderheid]

64. 44... 78

[Carolab]

66. Ms. Sassower Goes to Washington

http://www.judgewatch.org/

http://victimsoflaw.net/petitions.htm

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?elena


Ms. Sassower Goes to Washington

New Yorker Elena Sassower went to Washington, D.C. on behalf of the Center for Judicial Accountability, Inc. (CJA) to attend a U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee public hearing on May 22, 2003. She wanted to speak in opposition to the nomination of NY Court of Appeals Judge, Richard C. Wesley, for the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals, which includes New York. She sat through two hours of speeches in favor of the nominees.

After the chairman, U.S. Senator Saxby Chambliss, said: "if there are no further questions or participation from anyone on the Committee, we will stand adjourned. Thank you very much."

Ms. Sassower rose and respectfully asked: "Mr. Chairman, there's citizen opposition to Judge Wesley based on his documented corruption at the New York Court of Appeals. May I testify?”
Instead of answering 'yes' or 'no,' Senator Chambliss said: "I will issue a warning that we will have order. The Committee will stand in recess until the police can restore order. Everyone remain seated."

Elena. Are you directing that I be arrested?
Senator Chambliss. No answer to the question.
Elena. Are you directing that I be arrested?
Senator Chambliss. I am directing that the police restore order.
Elena. Are you directing that I be arrested?
No answer to the question; instead:
Senator Chambliss. Outside witnesses are welcome to submit letters supporting or opposing nominees for the Committee's consideration, but it is not our usual procedure to invite outside witnesses to testify either in support or in opposition to the nomination. I realize that this lady is disappointed that she is not able to make any statement this afternoon, but her disappointment in no way condones any disruption of this hearing. Again, we will stand adjourned.
Thank you very much.


See testimony on Senate site, .pdf format, pg. 581

Arrested for 'Disruption of Congress'!

Seconds after, Elena was forcibly removed from the Chamber, handcuffed behind her back and moved to the hallway. Senator Chambliss walked right by her without saying a word. All he ever had to do was answer her original question, 'yes' or 'no' instead of having her arrested. Shortly thereafter, she was taken out of the building and incarcerated for 21 hours; kept incommunicado and criminally prosecuted for 10 D.C. Code Section 503.16(b)(4) a/k/a "Disruption of Congress."



What Congress did she interrupt & how?

By the Senate's own transcript, the hearings were adjourned before Ms. Sassower asked her question. So what did she disrupt? After she was removed from the Chamber, the Committee was adjourned a second time. Unexplained to the present date is why Chairman Chambliss would not answer the questions Elena posed to him – (1) whether she might testify or (2) the thrice-asked question as to whether he had directed her arrest by the Capitol Police.



THE 'ALLEGED' TRIAL

Court Watcher's Comment
on Judge Holeman's Conduct during Trial

By: George McDermott
Petition Signer #220

I attended Ms. Sassower's trial and could not believe I was in an American courtroom. The judge kept cutting her off when all she was doing was trying to defend herself. She was pro se, which meant she was her own lawyer. The judge interrupted her opening statement to the jury and would not let her proceed with it because he did not wish her to go into the facts that led up to her arrest or the political motivation behind it.

When she was being cross-examined, the judge again prevented her from testifying in her own defense as to those facts. He ordered her off the witness stand and actually had the US Marshals lock her up for a period of time so as to intimidate her.

I never saw anything so unfair in my life. There is no question in my mind that the judge was biased in favor of the government and extremely antagonistic toward Ms. Sassower. It was because of that bias that she was convicted and unjustly sentenced to jail. I am convinced that she committed no crime and should be freed NOW.



Judge Holeman's Draconian Sentence

Although the prosecutor and the probation officer both recommended that Ms. Sassower not be jailed, Judge Holeman completely disregarded those recommendations. He sentenced her to 92 days in jail unless she agreed to his terms, which were: (1) 2 years probation; keep minute records of her work hours; (3) 300 hours of community service, 200 near her home in New York and 100 in D.C.; (4) participate in anger management therapy; (5) prohibited access to16 buildings and and streets in the United States Capitol Complex as well as two Metro stations; (6) prohibited from communicating with a number of Senators, Judge Wesley, the prosecutors and police; (7) write letters of apology and remorse to Senators Hatch, Leahy, Chambliss, Schumer, Clinton & Judge Wesley; and ( a penalty of $500 plus an additional $250 to the Victims of Violent Crimes fund.

Ms. Sassower told Judge Holeman “I am not remorseful and will not lie.” Whereupon Judge Holeman added to his retaliation against her due process and First Amendment Rights. He doubled his original jail term from 92 days to six (6) months. He ordered her incarcerated immediately. She has served the draconian sentence.


After Sentencing,
Attorney Mark Goldstone commented:

"seemed reminiscent of the old Soviet Union....
These are conditions you put on someone who attacks a senator with a knife."

[MadLinguist]

69. Thank you for posting this.

We should not assume that Wallach's case is singular. This anger-management business in the proposed sentence for Sassower, on top of the the fines and prohibitions, is so paternalistic, and the retaliation so childish. I hope we are not headed for times when stories like this are the norm. I wonder if those who believe that Wallach got what she deserved believe that about Sassower...

[Citizen Jane]

74. She's apparently a Lecturer in the Math Dept. at Kent State University

Where I am (since Visiting Lecturer is my title) that means that you don't have tenure and you may or may not have a Ph.D. (some places allow you to teach as a Lecturer when you are still A.B.D.).

Here's what I found on the arrest:

"Freedom Winter" Bus Rider Arrested in Congress
1/7/2005
By Ray Beckerman

"Freedom Winter" Bus Rider Arrested in Congress Reportedly, on Thursday during the Senate debates over the Ohio electoral challenge, Ohio citizen Prof. Tracy Wallach was arrested by Capitol Police upon leaving the public gallery.

The incident apparently triggering the arrest was her alleged spontaneous outcry upon hearing the testimony of Ohio Senator George Voinovich. When Voinovich stated on the Senate floor that Ohio had elected Bush as President, Prof. Wallach allegedly cried out, “No, Ohio didn’t, you lied.” She then rushed from the Senate gallery where she had been seated to observe the debate. She was arrested shortly thereafter outside the gallery, and jailed overnight in the City Jail without bail, pending a hearing today on charges of disruption of Congress. She was told the outburst was a felony offense, and will face up to 6 months of jail time and a fine after a court hearing scheduled for March 2004. Prof. Wallach was told she was banned from the U.S. Capitol area of Washington D.C., forever. Washington D.C. Police could not specify what penalties might result from her arrest. Wallach is a resident of Ohio and a professor at Kent State University. She had traveled to Washington with the “Freedom Winter Bus” from Columbus. The 50 citizens onboard the bus had started out at 4:30 a.m. Wednesday in Columbus, arriving in Washington, D.C. for a press conference at 2:00, followed by presentations of personal testimony to their elected representatives about their experiences with vote fraud and disenfranchisement in the November election.

Washington Police reportedly confiscated her camera, and other personal belongings. Prof. Wallach described her treatment as “extremely rude, especially in the middle of the night.”

From... http://nov2truth.org/article.php?story=20050107172932263
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86. Does @Cheney's "Go f_ yourself" to the Senator from VT

have any relevance to this case?

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