"The Power of Nightmares" makes the MSM!

[darkworkz]

If you haven't seen this documentary, take the time to read the article then skip below the text I've pasted and watch it for yourself!

I could be wrong but I think this LA Times article came about because of DU and its posters.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-scheer11jan11,0,5399604.story

(clip from article)
Is it conceivable that Al Qaeda, as defined by President Bush as the center of a vast and well-organized international terrorist conspiracy, does not exist?

To even raise the question amid all the officially inspired hysteria is heretical, especially in the context of the U.S. media's supine acceptance of administration claims relating to national security. Yet a brilliant new BBC film produced by one of Britain's leading documentary filmmakers systematically challenges this and many other accepted articles of faith in the so-called war on terror.
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(text below is not mine)
The Neo Conservative movement in the Republican party was founded
ideologically by Leo Strauss, a "man" who believed that saving his
cowboy image for America was more important than truth or honesty. Since their inception they have invented imaginary threats to America such as Rumsfeld's overblown image of the USSR up to Saddam's non existent WMDs. The story is deeper, far deeper than I have written here in this sig file. Check out this three part documentary by the BBC to learn more about it.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1037.htm

[BlueEyedSon]

1. get the HQ mpg torrents here

http://conspiracy.hopto.org:6969/

requires registration, then search with keyword "power"

[darkworkz]

2. Thanks!!

I've been looking for high res copies of the series!

My thanks to you!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

3. Question? What are HQ mpg torrents?

[darkworkz]

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[BlueEyedSon]

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http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/

Self contained app, no java required (unless i just happened to have java so it worked...), no adware, no spyware, etc.....

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

6. Thank you! I will check it out! :)

[darkworkz]

7. self kick

because this needs to be read and seen by everyone. The LA Times thinks so, and I agree!

[DoYouEverWonder]

8. Here's some research

that I did into the American operatives, who are behind most of the stories and noise that generated the al Qaeda myth and most of the terror scares in the last 3 years.

The Coming Strike? The Anatomy of a Terrorist Hoax


Code Orange: Is it based on an Internet Hoax?

[cyberpj]

9. can you tell me who first brought this to attention of DU?

I have some possibly interesting info I'd like to pass along. I did a quick search on the title but didn't find much. Has it been a topic often here? You sounded excited that it would hit our press so I assume it's been discussed before.

Tx.
PJ

[BlueEyedSon]

10. I don't know who first posted, but the date on my download of

TPON pt. 1 is 11/10/04. And I definitely heard about it here.

[Chomp]

11. KICK

Not watching at least the first part of this documentary is absolutely sinful and unforgivable.

YOU MUST TAKE THE TIME TO WATCH IT.

AND NOTE, IT IS PRODUCED BY THE BBC. IT IS NOT TINFOIL HAT STUFF. IN
FACT IT IS AS CLOSE TO FEELING LIKE THE TRUTH AS I HAVE COME ACCROSS.

SORRY FOR SHOUTING, BUT YOU MUST MUST, MUST, MUST WATCH IT!!!!!

AND NOW...













Calm.....

[Applan]

12. Also available here....

http://mysite.verizon.net/res7dhyg/id3.html

You can download it directly. The first two are low resolution but watchable. I don't know anywhere that has high res versions of all 3.

It is definitely worth spending the time to watch these.

[BlueEyedSon]

14. Here:

In bittorrent
http://conspiracy.hopto.org:6969
requires registration, then search with keyword "power"

[Rosco T.]

13. Friend of mine recorded it for me, I have it on DVD...

PM if interested..

[mordarlar]

15. Osama claims he is not involved. Interesting info about our people.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x29361

[cyberpj]

16. thanks for this post here

I wouldn't have ventured to the other thread to see this info and it's quite good in context of Nightmares.

What do we do with this information? It hurts too much to understand this and know that our government does nothing. Is it worth forwarding to those who stood up against the electoral vote or should we tackle one problem at a time? There's just so much I believe they've done it's overwhelming.

[mordarlar]

17. My humble opinion ; )

I think first and most important is that we UNIFY cause. The right hand needs to know what the left is doing in the carrying out of action against this administration. There is a hive mind mentality in this criminal administration. Each knows what the goal, defense and actions will be. We need to have this as well. There is POWER in numbers. From there i think the goal should be to work on fraud, while at the same time supporting the War Crimes Trials being held in other nations. If we can target even one KEY PLAYER in the fraud we will have a domino effect. It does not even have to be mind blowing conviction. We have Blackwell on criminal activity. He is a much higher player in the plans of this administration than they would have us think. If we can pin even one solid crime to him we will have some leverage. We are in a very sticky spot. The government has covered themselves constitutionally. We could petition for the crimes trials but we could be at risk. Not one of us can fight from Guantanamo. They have the ability to silence us. Right now they are limited in their action because the masses were not completely brainwashed before we began to scream. They KNOW they are being watched. They know if we begin to disappear people will KNOW WHY! We have effectively put up a road block. Now we need to take advantage of it. And we need to do this fast. They are planning to continue altering our constitution, in ways that will further empower themselves against dissent. We need to act now. And we need to act unified. I keep finding myself waiting for someone to say OK now we do this. I would do it. But nobody is speaking up. There comes a time when the people begin to take action. A common man begins to organize, in response to the silence of leadership. We are at this point.

[cyberpj]

18. I hope you're right - that "we are at this point" -

I feel that's true, that more people are waking up as more things come to light.

My main exasperation is that we have no help from the media; those we used to be able to count on to help expose things are now silenced and absent from a legitimate discussion. More than that, they're even biased to promote and agree with whatever they're told by this administration. The net gives us lots of investigations but ma and pa kettle have been told that the net is chock full of nuts and not to listen.

I also believe there are too many groups fighting separately and it's discouraging not to have them unified and fighting together. Hopefully that will change SOON!

[MarkusQ]

19. I beg to differ

You can not fight one "hive mind mentality" with another; at least, not successfully. What you end up with is dueling talking points, endless cross trolling, and no net gain by either side.

The answer to a hive mind mentality is to challenge the echo chamber effect that produced it. To do this you need many competing ideas, duking it out on their merits. You need fact checking and logic challenging swarms that pop every group think bubble they can find (even--no, especially--the ones on "their side"). You need people to spread critical thinking and rationality as far and wide and deep as they can.

The cure for blind faith isn't counter-faith. It's doubt. The big lie can only be killed by the curse of a thousand good questions.

--MarkusQ

[mordarlar]

20. I worded badly perhaps. I mean a unity of cause in this one action

Bringing about the Fall of Bush. Differing groups with their own identity maintained, joining in a definable cause (with groups of like mind on the action) of stopping this administration. They have a hive mind. We need individualism unified in this effort to bring about the change desired.

[Der Blaue Engel]

29. Well. No wonder they're not worried about looking for him.

I'm astounded (or not) that I've never heard these quotes before. I'm having a moment of cognitive dissonance....

[Al-CIAda]

21. ENEMY WANTED

Enemy Wanted

Mature North American Superpower seeks hostile partner for arms-racing, Third World conflicts, and general antagonism. Must be sufficiently menacing to convince Congress of military financial requirements. Nuclear capability is preferred, however, non-nuclear candidates possessing significant bio-chemical warfare resources will be considered. Send note with pictures of fleet and air squadrons to:

Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff
The Pentagon
Washington, DC
United States Of America

[Carolab]

22. I think Sundance should air this.

They aired Unprecedented, Uncovered, Outfoxed, etc. Why not this?

In fact, I just e-mailed them and suggested it.

[cyberpj]

30. Good thought - I'll write too. eom.

[KansDem]

23. KICK

This would help to explain why Al Qaeda, which is supposed to be operating in 60 countries around the world, hasn't done much to speak of outside Iraq

and...

Why there has not been a beheading (that I can think of) since the election...

[Carolab]

24. Indeed

Where's Osama? Don't know, don't care...

[k8conant]

25. Does al-Qaeda exist? Talk about conspiracy theorists...

28 November 2003
Does al-Qaeda exist?
Not in the way that we think, say some terrorism experts.
by Brendan O'Neill

http://www.spiked-online.com/Articles/00000006DFED.htm
...
"Dolnik and others believe that, in many ways, the thing we refer to as 'al-Qaeda' is largely a creation of Western officials."

[darkworkz]

26. If you've taken the time to watch PoN then...

You may want to consider watching this documentary as well. It challenges your perceptions as to "what's really going on?" And the answers to the question(s) you may not like.

This information is disturbing and appalling! It has been documented over time by various MSM news sources (http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2003/03/4516.shtml). Now a video of the neocon night life has surfaced that will educate and inform you of what they do and how they live when the cameras are off.

A warning: There are no graphic pictures in this documentary but there are HIGHLY disturbing descriptions of activities.

This documentary is posted to help tear the veil off the hypocritical front worn by the neocons and expose them to the light of day.

You can't fix the problem if you don't know there is a problem.

http://www.rense.com/1.imagesG/conspiracyofsilence2.wmv

(text below not mine)

Appalling Conspiracy
Of Silence Video Online
From Thrasher
http://www.media-underground.net
1-9-5


Conspiracy of Silence, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies.

Many children suffered the indignity of wearing nothing but their underwear and a number displayed on a piece of cardboard hanging from their necks when being auctioned off to foreigners in Las Vegas, Nevada and Toronto, Canada.

At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who had ordered all copies destroyed.

A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired FBI Agent Ted L. Gunderson. While the video quality is not top grade, this tape is a blockbuster in what is revealed by the participants involved.

See for yourself...

[Monkie]

32. i always thought THIS is what could bring "them" down,documented abuse

sexual abuse of children

its _the_ unreported story that if it made it to the mainstream it would bring down that whole corrupt structure.

it explains WHY there is this silence from the media and politicians on important issues.
its SO sickening that once in the open the fallout is unstoppable.

this video shows a pedophile-ring involving politicians,religious organisations,wealthy businessmen,and the media going right up to and inside the reagan/bush whitehouse

another angle besides the video conspiracyofsilence2.wmv is this article from the washington post

[kitkat65]

27. Oh, yeah, and I suppose Santa Claus is just an icon parents use to keep

their children in line for at least one month out of the year.

:eyes:

I'd be more than willing to burn cds of these to distribute among my neighborhood.

On edit:
Fixed the spelling on their from there

[demo dutch]

28. Orchestrated with the help of the Saudi Royals!!

[NationalEnquirer]

31. Why can't any media show it here?

I guarantee you that if a similar right wing piece were made overseas, FOX news would have at it, if not Sinclair broadcasting.
How can they say the media is Liberal?