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Democrat Dragon Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 10:11 PM
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Kerry may have already lost more than a million votes BEFORE the "election
Remeber this artice long ago? I am hitting myself in head for not remembering it earlier. DOn't worry I've stopped already.

I think they may be useful in the investigation. If they're no go ahead and prove me wrong.

This is the one Greg Palast wrote:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/110204V.shtml


Here's another one about up to 200,000 provisonal ballots that could go uncounted:
http://www.demos-usa.org/page192.cfm
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 10:22 PM
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1. he was "right on" wasn't he????
It's not even Election Day yet, and the Kerry-Edwards campaign is already down by a almost a million votes. That's because, in important states like Ohio, Florida and New Mexico, voter names have been systematically removed from the rolls and absentee ballots have been overlooked—overwhelmingly in minority areas, like Rio Arriba County, New Mexico, where Hispanic voters have a 500 percent greater chance of their vote being "spoiled." Investigative journalist Greg Palast reports on the trashing of the election.

John Kerry is down by several thousand votes in New Mexico, though not one ballot has yet been counted. He's also losing big time in Colorado and Ohio; and he's way down in Florida, though the votes won't be totaled until Tuesday night.

Through a combination of sophisticated vote rustling—ethnic cleansing of voter rolls, absentee ballots gone AWOL, machines that "spoil" votes—John Kerry begins with a nationwide deficit that could easily exceed one million votes.

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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 10:30 PM
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2. I'd say he was right on the money....
I remember reading that piece and knowing that this was where we were heading. I just prayed that maybe we'd manage to get out enough votes for Kerry to counterbalance whatever they did. Truth is, we came damn close but the massiveness of their collective actions was bigger then anyone really imagined.

Never Again.
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:45 PM
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3. In Florida 2/3 of provisional ballots were rejected; and most eligible vot
Edited on Wed Jan-12-05 11:46 PM by berniew1
voters. As in Ohio and New Mexico, the provisional votes were rejected mainly because they were from minority voters, and minority voters usually vote Democratic. Likewise hundreds of thousands of minorities were prevented from voting, though they tried to register.
For the same reason. And this is documented by the thousands of EIRS election incident reports at www.voteprotect.org

some examples in Florida, Ohio, and New Mexico
Florida
http://www.flcv.com/EIRSFla2.html
http://www.flcv.com/dirtytrf.html
Ohio
http://www.flcv.com/cuyahopb.html
http://www.flcv.com/cuyahovs.html
New Mexico
http://www.helpamericarecount.org/NewMexicoData/NewMexicoGeneralElection.pdf
New Orleans
http://www.flcv.com/neworlea.html
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:51 PM
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4. The U.S. election system is rigged as a matter of process; the Dems & most
public don't seem aware of it; or to focus on electoral process issues. But you can't win an election in a rigged system unless you have the support of a huge majority. Those who control the process and vote counting will take advantage of it if allowed, and will win virtually all fairly close elections.
Gore lost in Florida in 2000 when it wasn't even a close election. Gore is documented to have had a 100,000 edge in a fair election.
But those who conroll the process can easily swing that many votes. And more if necessary in a big state.

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