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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 02:16 PM
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Conyers to Blackwell: Respond to report
Edited on Thu Jan-13-05 02:16 PM by rawstory
Conyers to Ohio election chief: Please help Congress reform voting

Another Conyers letter forthcoming shortly at Raw Story...

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=548

The following letter went out this afternoon.

January 13, 2005
The Honorable J. Kenneth Blackwell
Ohio Secretary of State
180 East Broad Street, 16th Floor
Columbus, OH 43215

Dear Secretary Blackwell:

Attached for your review and response, please find a comprehensive Report regarding Ohio election law irregularities prepared by the House Judiciary Committee Minority Staff. Given the importance of election reform, and the key role Ohio has played in recent elections, I believe it is imperative that you, as the leading election official in Ohio, provide Congress with your reactions to the attached report, including in particular the factual and legal conclusions and legislative recommendations set forth therein.

I recognize that in the past you have been unwilling to respond to any inquiries regarding the irregularities in the Ohio presidential election or your office’s role in them. However, I am now hopeful that since Congress has certified the results of the electoral college, that you will be more forthcoming in assisting Congress in developing a record and legislation that will allow the nation to avoid a repeat of the voting irregularities reported in your state.

In this regard, it is important to recognize that voting reforms are now supported by key members on both sides of the aisle. House Minority Leader, Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) observed during the House debates during last week’s electoral challenge:
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 02:17 PM
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1. Thanks!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 02:19 PM
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2. LOL
"However, I am now hopeful that since Congress has certified the results of the electoral college, that you will be more forthcoming in assisting Congress in developing a record and legislation that will allow the nation to avoid a repeat of the voting irregularities reported in your state."

ha! Conyers is not fooled easily.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:21 PM
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9. and, since you've refused to respond, I am sending each county
the same questions to be used in our investigation.

ha! Conyers is not fooled easily.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 02:19 PM
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3. thank you..and THANK YOU TO..the honorable REP. CONYERS!!! N/T
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 02:22 PM
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4. I do so love that man.
I love the fact that he issued the request to the chairs and the vice chairs of the BOEs in Ohio too. LOL!
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 02:22 PM
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5. who are the Republican supporters?
that Conyers refers to in his letter?
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:27 PM
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6. Blackwell responds with one liner...
on Raw Story shortly; http://rawstory.com
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 03:58 PM
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7. Hmm... I wonder how creative he got with it?
Does it involve the word "cheney"?

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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:31 PM
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10. I can't wait until the screws are put to Blackwell
It's just a matter of time.
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super simian Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:17 PM
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8. Help! Hope desperately needed!
Edited on Thu Jan-13-05 04:18 PM by super simian
I have been feeling very discouraged ever since I heard that Arnebeck dropped his lawsuit. It seems to me that the whole issue of election fraud 2004 is fizzling out, or I should say, election fraud 2004 is becoming election reform 2006/08 which is a good thing in the long run, I'm glad that's happening, but quite frankly I don't believe that with a Repug controlled congress we are ever going to get anything any better than the Orwellian Help America Vote Act.

I guess I still had a shred of hope that we could do something about the * hijacking of the presidency, but it looks less and less like anything will happen to change that or even prevent Jeb in 2008. If * could steal the presidency twice in a row, and did it so much better the second time around, what is there to hold on to that is going to reverse this trend? With the MSM ignoring it and Kerry evidently AWOL for the long haul, I just don't know what to look forward to any more.

:scared:
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:50 PM
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12. Ya haven't been keeping up!
The suit by Arnebeck/Moss will be pursued in other courts.

"The lawsuit challenging Ohio's 2004 presidential race has been withdrawn from the Ohio Supreme Court, having served as a lightning rod to draw national attention to the widespread and possibly illegal irregularities in the vote that gave George W. Bush a term as president starting in January.

While the election challenge lawyers say they may raise the suit's constitutional and civil rights issues in other legal venues, the case, Moss. V. Bush, became a vehicle for an aggressive investigation of irregularities in the Ohio presidential vote that culminated in a congressional challenge of the 2004 Electoral College.

"This is not the end, this is merely the end of one state action," said Cliff Arnebeck, the challenge's lead counsel. "More importantly, it signals the emergence of a much broader effort where we plan to investigate and litigate county by county, ward by ward, precinct by precinct."

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1085

"We are not quitting, we are going on to any other forum that's available and we intend to pursue those avenues aggressively," Arnebeck said.

http://www.nbc4i.com/politics/4071567/detail.html

"....they plan instead to file a Federal civil lawsuit in U.S. District Court, alleging civil rights violations and election fraud. That, instead of the Ohio action, which, the plaintiffs had come to discover, was being heard by the Republican Ohio Supreme Court Justice who had shown a lack of impartiality in the case (e.g. He refused to recuse himself from it, despite being a a candidate on the ballot in question).

...working hard toward the federal civil action which will be filed very soon."

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001119.htm
District Court, alleging civil rights violations and election fraud."
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super simian Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 05:43 PM
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14. Wow!
Thanks, you just made my day, troubleinwinter!
You are right that I haven't been keeping up, I kind of dropped out for a sec when I heard that Arnebeck had dropped the lawsuit. You really have to stay on top of things since the MSM doesn't cover it, and go to a lot of different places to stay on top of what's happening. Here are some floaty hearts for you:

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 06:02 PM
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16. Yes, it is difficult to keep up! Ya SURE won't find it on
the MSM Corporate Media. To dig up the info for ya, I had to go back through "alternative channels"!

The original suit was dropped for good reason... it sought to overturn the slate of electors, and that issue is obsolete. But Arnebeck, Moss, et al are continuing the good fight. I think they will do better in Fed court, anyway.

I think that between Arnebeck and Conyers, Blackwell will likely be indicted. That would be good. I want to see some of these neo-con criminals brought up on charges for their criminal activities, and Blackwell may be the beginning. Who knows.

Don't give up and don't get discouraged. Be very careful of the MSM. They love to discourage us and write us off.

:toast:
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super simian Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:52 PM
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19. Thank you so much!
Yes it takes research and digging down to stay abreast of the revolution against the * hijacking of America. I have no illusions about the MSM.

I was a faithful Daily Kos follower where a wonderful person AKA georgia10 was doing all this work for me. This {alias} who is a law student did incredible research to keep us all informed. However I have had to "ban" myself from Daily Kos since some big shots there resented my opinions and were given a wide latitude to be abusive about it. So here I am clutching at straws and thanks so much for being one of them.

:bounce:
:bounce:
:bounce:
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:54 PM
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13. I just hafta say I hate that shivery-shake smiley...
Edited on Thu Jan-13-05 04:54 PM by troubleinwinter
always have. Hate it every time I see it. FIGHT, EDUCATE and WORK, don't shiver and shake. Fear is THEIR weapon of choice.
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super simian Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 05:45 PM
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15. Emoticons...
...are a way of expressing feelings and -- although I know you mean well and understand what you are saying -- it is not helpful to suggest to someone that you "hate" their feelings.

:bounce:
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 06:05 PM
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17. Not hating your feelings, hating that MSM/Admin manages to foster the fear
Edited on Thu Jan-13-05 06:06 PM by troubleinwinter
and try to paralize people with a sense of hopelessness. We have each other to fight it.

Go us! :bounce:
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super simian Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:22 PM
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18. Just what I'm saying...
...and appreciate your point about living in a climate of fear. Something I think Michael M. did a good job of exposing in B for Columbine. Since I ride the train to work everyday I felt extra special vigilant about anyone leaving unattended packages in the run up to the travesty of an election 2004 (read hijacking of the US government by Texan oil interests). Not fun to live a life of fear. I thought they were going to pull a "Madrid." Instead they just hacked their way to "victory." Another bloodless coup. Unless you are in the military or live in Iraq. But things will change rapidly. This is no longer a "post-9/11" world. It is a post-devastating tsunami world. There is no way that Texan oil interests can play a role in that. So I guess we should all hold onto our hats!

:bounce:
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Democrat Dragon Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 10:23 PM
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20. First, let the truth come out,
Then buy time in the CMW, make a bug announcement along with teh smoking gun and we might get a delicious combination of Watergate, Ukraine presidential "election" 2004, and the Boston Tea Party.
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super simian Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:26 AM
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21. Sounds beautiful to me!!!
Thanks. I'm holding the thought.
:toast:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 04:31 PM
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11. Thanks, RS. Keep up the good work! n/t
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