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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:18 AM
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"The Miami Herald" helps to clarify how the "rethugs" stole it in Miami
The paper ANNOUNCED for how much Kerry was going to win, 90.000 votes.

Gore beat they guy by 40.000 in 2000 (probably more). Kerry "beat him by 48.000 votes" in 2004! With a 90.000 loss he was doomed and they knew that.

But here is the kick:

"*" got 6.000 VOTES LESS THAN THE "RETHUG" MARTINEZ!!!

I tell you, they knew that the fix HAD TO TAKE PLACE ON DEMOCRATIC STRONGHOLDS.

And they did it...

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/columnists/jim_defede/10033111.htm?1c

http://elections.metro-dade.com/ele110204/cumu110204.pdf

The Cuban Americans in Miami gave kerry over 36% of the vote this year.

Nope, it wasn't the Cubans either...

A "miracle", that's all.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:20 AM
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1. God (Rove) works in mysterious ways!
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Acryliccalico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:21 AM
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2. not a miracle, theft
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:28 AM
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3. can you post some of the article please? I don't have an account and
don't want to sign up. Thanks.
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:31 AM
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4. Sure!
"Presidential poll may track big changes in Dade


If the latest Miami Herald poll is correct, the road to the White House no longer runs exclusively through Little Havana, it now winds its way through the streets of Wynwood and Allapattah and Homestead.

And if that's true, President Bush is in trouble.

The Herald poll shows Sen. John Kerry winning Miami-Dade County with 54.3 percent of the vote to 41.5 for Bush. Four percent are undecided.

Splitting those undecided voters down the middle, Kerry goes to 56 percent, Bush to 43 and Ralph Nader will end up with less than 1 percent.

If Kerry wins Miami-Dade County 56 to 43, then the likelihood of him winning Florida is very high. Here's why:

In 2000, Al Gore beat Bush by almost 40,000 votes in Miami-Dade County."

(snip)

BIG NUMBERS

According to the Herald poll, done by Zogby International, Kerry is positioned to win Miami-Dade by anywhere from 90,000 to 100,000 votes.

A margin that large in Florida's most populous county would be hard for Bush to make up across the rest of the state.

Now I realize if the poll's margin of error were to fall in the president's favor, Kerry would beat Bush, 53 to 46 percent (instead of 56-43). But even then, because of new voters, Kerry would still walk away with 50,000 more votes than Bush.

But here is why the Herald poll rings true.

Between 2000 and 2004, the split between Democrats and Republican is virtually the same in almost every category."

(snip)

"THE CUBAN-AMERICAN VOTE

In 2000, an overwhelming majority of Cuban Americans went to Bush and the latest Herald poll shows the same thing happening again.

In 2000, the Jewish and black votes went overwhelmingly for Gore and the latest poll has them doing the same for Kerry. Among Anglos, Kerry is ahead, but Bush has tightened the gap.

The one group that is radically different -- and it is why the poll makes sense -- is a shift among non-Cuban Hispanics, who are backing Kerry almost two-to-one.

Overall, Hispanics -- both Cubans and non-Cubans -- still support Bush, according to the Herald poll, with 62 percent saying they will vote for the president and 35 percent saying they will vote for Kerry."

(snip)

"DEMOCRATS IMPROVE

Nevertheless, that is a tremendous improvement for the Democrats over 2000, when 73 percent of Hispanics favored Bush and only 27 percent voted for Gore.

And almost all of those gains for Kerry have come from Mexicans, Salvadorans, Dominicans, Colombians and Puerto Ricans among others. Many of whom are going to be voting for the first time.

The raw numbers: In 2000, Bush won among all Hispanics by 135,000 votes. Based on the Herald poll, Bush's lead among Hispanics in 2004 will be closer to 95,000 votes.

Narrowing that gap by 40,000 votes between 2000 and 2004 is a huge accomplishment for Democrats and shows the very real impact voter registration groups such as Mi Familia are having on this year's election. In six months, Mi Familia registered 66,000 new voters in Florida, many of them here in Miami-Dade and most of them non-Cuban Hispanics."

- There you have it
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MsUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:36 AM
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8. kick, and can't someone do something about this???
D*MN!! This is so disheartening and I can't believe none of our US Representatives and Senators knew anything about the fraud!!
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ClintCooper2003 Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:51 AM
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5. And what's more - I remember Joe Lockhart on CNN saying the same thing...
that Kerry was going to take Miami by 90,000 votes. Thus, the overall trend was probably such that Bush wouldn't be able to win Florida.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:13 AM
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6. Add in that Latinos went overwhelmingly for Kerry in WCVI's poll...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:35 AM
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:46 AM
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11. Says you.
I say it was rigged, dammit!
BTW, welcome!
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:43 PM
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13. Well, Bush had the faith-based voting machines on his side
and that's all that really counts.
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:06 PM
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14. Which means what?
Like every other Bush lie it means nothing.

People of faith go up for Bush is an imaginary stat, people of every other affiliation under the sun favor Kerry. So in every post vote survey Kerry wins, but the survey never taken about religion Bush wins.

If you work with the facts you never come to the conclusions that Bush does, why? it's because facts always trump belief. Unless of course your protecting your belief mindless of the facts.
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NationalEnquirer Donating Member (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:43 AM
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10. Cubans are a far cry from the rest of the "latinos" in the USA.
Most of them are right wingers to the Core.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 11:01 AM
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:14 AM
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7. kick
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 04:13 PM
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15. Kick (n/t)
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super simian Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 04:19 PM
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16. What does "kick" mean? n/t
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 04:21 PM
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17. "Kicking up" the tread.
Makes it visible and could help to those that didn't see it before.
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super simian Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 04:26 PM
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18. Okie dokie, thanks! n/t
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 04:27 PM
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19. This is fucked up.
Where are our 'representitives'?

OUT TO FUCKING LUNCH
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 04:28 PM
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20. Or "cocktail time", interns included (n/t)
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