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Fri Jan-14-05 12:45 PM
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Check out what John Zogby has to say on the exit polls. |
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John Zogby, President of Zogby International, a well-known polling company, said that such complete non-transparency is a “violation of polling ethics.” Under the American Association for Public Opinion Research code, Section III, Standard for Minimal Disclosure: “Good professional practice imposes the obligation upon all public opinion researchers to include, in any report of research results, or to make available when that report is released, certain essential information about how the research was conducted. {B}At a minimum, the following items should be disclosed, Part 8 - Method, location, and dates of data collection.” There is a lot of info in the dissident voice article where Zogby makes this comment, but first check out American Association for Public Opinion Research (AAPOR). http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Jan05/Landes0106.htm When you check out AAPOR you find Mitofsky was president there and what the Code of Professional Ethics and Practices are exactly Mitofsky worked as president of American Association for Public Opinion Research (AAPOR). He received AAPOR's Lifetime Achievement Award in 1999. http://www.mitofskyinternational.com/company.htm AAPOR is an association of about 1,600 individuals who share an interest in public opinion and survey research. Members work in a wide variety of settings, including academic institutions, commercial firms, government agencies and non-profit groups, as both producers and users of survey data. Election polling, collecting statistical data, conducting market research and improving methods for surveying individuals and institutions are just a few of the diverse research interests of AAPOR members. Code of Professional Ethics and Practices We, the members of the American Association for Public Opinion Research, subscribe to the principles expressed in the following code. III. Standard for Minimal Disclosure Good professional practice imposes the obligation upon all public opinion researchers to include, in any report of research results, or to make available when that report is released, certain essential information about how the research was conducted. At a minimum, the following items should be disclosed:
1. Who sponsored the survey, and who conducted it.
2. The exact wording of questions asked, including the text of any preceding instruction or explanation to the interviewer or respondents that might reasonably be expected to affect the response.
3. A definition of the population under study, and a description of the sampling frame used to identify this population.
4. A description of the sample selection procedure, giving a clear indication of the method by which the respondents were selected by the researcher, or whether the respondents were entirely self-selected.
5. Size of samples and, if applicable, completion rates and information on eligibility criteria and screening procedures.
6. A discussion of the precision of the findings, including, if appropriate, estimates of sampling error, and a description of any weighting or estimating procedures used.
7. Which results are based on parts of the sample, rather than on the total sample.
8. Method, location, and dates of data collection. http://www.aapor.org/default.asp?page=survey_methods/standards_and_best_practices/code_for_professional_ethics_and_practices For someone who was given a lifetime achievement award while president at AAPOR, he sure is not following the Code of Professional Ethics and Practices very well.
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Fri Jan-14-05 12:53 PM
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No surprise that someone associated with the weed and his band of rethugs is not following professional ethical rules, no surprise at all.
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Fri Jan-14-05 12:59 PM
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Fri Jan-14-05 12:58 PM
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2. Great post. What are Mitofsky/MSM hiding, and when will ethics ... |
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of a research-based or journalistic strain re-enter their "reality-based" worlds? Specifically, when have the MSM indicated that they will release the raw exit polls? Like thousands of people, I am anxious to see their state-by-state "final" data and compare it with what DUers and others screen-saved before the great 2004 election "glitch" stole Christmas and Thanksgiving (and maybe our country).
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Fri Jan-14-05 01:24 PM
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4. Very interesting post. |
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Has anyone in the MSM said they would release the raw data? We sure can't expect it from Mitofsky. At any rate, kudos to Zogby for asking for some accountability in the exit polls.
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Fri Jan-14-05 01:29 PM
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5. Hmmmm------- sounds like Mitofsky is really hiding something |
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Fri Jan-14-05 01:36 PM
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6. good stuff, but what hope do we have when even my old apartment's... |
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management company doesn't even remotely adhere to its code of ethics?
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Fri Jan-14-05 01:39 PM
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7. what are these people hiding? |
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hey Blackwell, WTF are you hiding?
hey Mitofsky, WTF are you hiding?
hey Richardson, WTF are you hiding?
hey CNN, WTF are you hiding?
WHAT ARE THEY HIDING? WHAT COULD IT BE? :think:
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Fri Jan-14-05 01:50 PM
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8. Maybe if we repeat it 3 times and click our heels they |
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will begin to talk? The only thing I can conclude about Richardson is he wants to run for President in 2008 and thinks playing the conservative role, OR HIDING HIS MISTAKES and possible complicity is necessary. All I know is he really lost my support in any venture he decides to pursue.
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Fri Jan-14-05 01:58 PM
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9. You quote the source... |
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..."the obligation upon all public opinion researchers to include, in any report of research results, or to make available when that report is released"
Shouldn't we wait until his report is released before we start accusing him of anything?
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Fri Jan-14-05 02:11 PM
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11. No. What's the fun in that? Anyway he says he can't and won't release it. |
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Mon Jan-17-05 12:50 PM
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20. He won't release the exit poll raw data. |
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Of course he will release the final exit poll. The raw numbers for the exit poll, are not the same as the final exit poll.
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Mon Jan-17-05 12:54 PM
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21. The raw exit poll data will be released |
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in a month or so, AFAIU, with the Roper center.
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Fri Jan-14-05 02:56 PM
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Because they have been asked to release this data and we hear ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, and Fox News are needing to properly analyze this data. A simple mathematical analysis which is consisting of a mathematical analysis, by dozens of professional analysts and has been ongoing for over 2 months now. This alone raises a lot of suspicion.
And what I just posted adds to the belief that "they are hiding something."
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Mon Jan-17-05 11:27 AM
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17. It must be 'hard work' trying to get the 'official' story straight |
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to sell to the public. Not to worry, the citizens are stupid enough to believe whatever they're told.
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Mon Jan-17-05 01:05 PM
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22. You're confusing the raw numbers collected on the day of the election... |
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...with the final exit poll. It's the raw numbers that we have asked for and not received. "This alone raises a lot of suspicion." How ? Without the analyis, the exit poll would be useless to the MSM. Have you Googled 'exit poll' lately to read how and they are conducted ? It's been 2 months. I expect it will take another month to actually make sense of the data. It is taken as fact in this forum that previous exit polls in this country have been accurate. Well, every one of them had to go through the same "mathematical analysis, by dozens of professional analysts" as this one does. It raises absolutely no suspicion. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=284055#285192
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Fri Jan-14-05 02:07 PM
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Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 02:08 PM by iconoclastNYC
I think that there was an agreement between the pollsters, and the candidates and the media that no matter what, we would KNOW who won the night of the election. UNLIKE 2000 we are at war, and we can not endure another 30 day period of uncertainty.
And so that's why you had new procedures for including poll results in the final exit polls. And it made it all the easier to hide the last minute padding of the votes.
The MSM and the pollsters are hiding the conspiracy to put electoral certainty over true democracy.
How many pundits did you here before the election say they didn't care who won just as long as it was a certain victory. I think that's how they could justify going along with it. Because uncertainty would mean weakness and damage national security/ the war on terror.
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Fri Jan-14-05 03:42 PM
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13. Kick, so I can read all this later. :) |
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Fri Jan-14-05 03:54 PM
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He called the election for Kerry based on Mitofsky's "data."
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Fri Jan-14-05 10:21 PM
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15. Can't he be turned in to the AAPOR for violating the Code of Professional |
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Ethics and Practices? If he's a member, shouldn't he be expected to adhere to these practices just like the other members? Sounds reasonable to me.
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Mon Jan-17-05 11:23 AM
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16. Mitofsky probably came up with the professional code. |
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He was president of the company.
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Mon Jan-17-05 11:28 AM
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18. Mitofksy may be the "Father" of this stuff but he is vulnerable, |
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especially if others in his profession choose to attack him for being unproffesional. Is anyone besides Zogby challenging him?
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Mon Jan-17-05 01:46 PM
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23. Professional review boards and |
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"codes of ethics" don't work and haven't been working for quite awhile. (Serious violators only get slaps on the wrist). Most professions do not adequately police themselves. Only in an ideal world. Research it--most Americans are incredibly naive about this. Zogby's challenge is all the more significant in light of that and I applaud his willingness to get involved.
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Mon Jan-17-05 02:19 PM
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24. Haven't you heard? The "re-election" purged all accountability |
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By osmosis, and as a reward for loyalty, Mitofsky is absolved by the American people for his part in the charade. Perhaps he'll get the highly valued Medal of Freedom award, or whatever that useless thing is called now.
Ethics? We don't need no steenkin' ethics.
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