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Sperk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:50 PM
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I'm not kidding guys, if the Repugs think BBV is getting close to proving
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 12:53 PM by Sperk
voter fraud, they could pull something-perhaps a fake terror attack to shut everyone up. We must be determined to keep our eye on the ball NO MATTER WHAT happens.And absolutely reject any accusations of being un-American for challenging the Idiot and Chief during a crisis. Agreed?
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:51 PM
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1. Eye on the ball
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:56 PM
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2. Yup! ck EVOTING FRAUD RESOURCE CENTER NOW ONLINE
<Kick this first, then go to the site, so all DUers get a chance to see it.>

http://www.independentmediasource.com/evotingfraud.htm


Sections:

Article Sections:

11-2-04 and newer:

Featured

Evoting

On Site

Other voter fraud

Older



Other Sections:

Web sites

New Additions

Legislation

Things you can do



Hundreds of resources available through these pages

UPDATED CONSTANTLY. CHECK THE "New Additions" PAGE EACH TIME YOU COME BACK


SPREAD THE WORD. PROPAGATE THIS EVERYWHERE!

(Lots of bandwidth)
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:00 PM
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5. Don't see anything on that site added after the "election"
:eyes:
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:30 PM
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7. Then your not looking very hard Karl
It was started AFTER the election. Only the "older" page has a few things from before. I'll make it real easy for you, got to "New Additions". That stuff is from the 5th on.

http://www.independentmediasource.com/evotingfraud_new_additions.htm
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:57 PM
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3. We are glued to the ball

Did you hear Rove say that he is angry at exit polls?

He knows we are closing in and they will stop at nothing.
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Woody Box Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:59 PM
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4. Yep

The "F" word has to be spread as quickly as possible. The situation is very dangerous. Take a look at Iraq. Take a look at the dollar. The Neocons might think they've only their fake terror attack left as an option.







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VivaKerry Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:12 PM
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6. Yeah, they would blow up every building that holds
the voting results and machines in the questionable states.
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Locrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 03:02 PM
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8. !!!strategy!!!
Was trying to post but dont have enough posts:

WE NEED A FRICKIN ****Strategy***** and need to THINK


Let me say right now I believe that there was fraud in the election. I think we will have evidence. I don't know if it will be enough without a damn good strategy and out thinking the opposition. We need to be ready and here's what I'm thinking:

1) Diversions. Get ready for em. Attacks, terror alerts, discussions of "morals", evangelicals, right wing, left wing out of touch.

Stay on message. Put aside ANY other subject and hammer this issue! Predict that this will happen before it happens. Keep hammering everyone and the press. This will probably be the toughest of all. We saw the "coverage" in 2000, in 2000 there wasn't a war to use as the diversion. Tell everyone, if you have friends overseas get them to contact their media etc. The less of a surprise and the better the background if (when) it breaks the better it will be and the more "framed" the issue will be. We need hypo cognition here - the ability for a catch phrase to trigger the "the fix was in".



2) Sore looser memes. Its like a football game memes. Democrats should get over it. Its FL whining all over again etc.

Don't let them frame the issue this way. Everyone knows the sports meme. It was a game, you lost, get over it. Even in a "bad call" game the results are accepted. But you know what? This isn't a game. Don't let them CALL it a game. If there is any comparison its as if the teams played and they COUNTED THE SCORE WRONG. Get it? Not that the "game" was lost but that it was scored wrong.

Winners / Loosers. Don't go there. Its and ELECTION. You get elected, based on VOTES. Again, its not a "game" where once in the "win" column its not open. Sports don't have elections, this is an election.


3) Dems didn't have the morals to win, it was about morals, etc.

Nope. What was the * morals? Gays and abortion? Thats it? No way. This is a diversion. If they are so moral, what's wrong with having an honest account of all the votes? Throw it back in their face.


4) Its too complicated. People dont understand. Numbers dont mean anything.

Numbers are EVERYTHING, but we need to communicate CLEARLY. We need charts the average joe six pack understands (or some simple catch phrase) and charts a PHD understands. Both are important. We need to come up with a CONSTANT frame of why the election is fraud and repeat again and again and again. Hypo cognition again - - the ability for a catch phrase to trigger the "the fix was in" and immediately get the message out.




5) Dems that say it will never matter. Its all over due to the 1-4 above.

If not now, when? With this much evidence? What are we here for? This is our zero hour. If you cant directly help, donate $$, write, call, and THINK. We're up against a machine that has 20 moves planned in advance. Be ready and know that there will be setbacks. This will not be a single battle. Its truly war and we need to think in those terms.


From Tom Paine:

"THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. "


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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 03:03 PM
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9. Perhaps a parallel strategy needs to start, as well-
Democrats have to do something very important in the next year, I think.

(1) Conduct a mass canvassing of the Democratic base in every state and every precinct. Ask these questions, in the framework of a written affidavit to give it legal standing:

a) Who did you vote for?
b) Why did you vote for him?
c) What is your 3 most important issues?

(2) Provide the same opportunity for every Republican who wishes to make his voice known the same opportunity.

Call it Project Democracy.

Lets count our own votes.........
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 03:11 PM
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10. What Makes You Think so?
Just asking. I'm not disagreeing, but my thought are based on my gut feeling, and a little of what I have read on the net.
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