What happened to Olbermann?

[StephanieMarie]

Why hasn't he given us any more time on the stolen election?

[Skink]

1. He's to busy guarding his plane...

:scared:

[ccarter84]

23. 2nded, planes of high profile people go down

way too often for comfort...when his mentors plane went down, mighta spooked him a bit, even if there was no connection to anything suspicious
just keep digging ppl, eventually we're gonna break through to the msm.
-CC

[pstans]

2. Olberman?

Maybe Torturo Gonzalez gave Evil Dick permission to chew off one of Keith's toes as torture for telling the truth.

[euler]

7. You may be right

[Clark2008]

8. Want me to ask him if he has all his toes?

I will, you know.

LOL!

[toymachines]

3. we may have put to much hope in him

[KaliTracy]

4. the election is officially "over" and his bosses told him to move on...n/t

[Clark2008]

5. He has been

It's not necessarily one of his big Top 5 on the Countdown, but, when there's news, he reports a snippet or two.

Of course, with the tsunami, he devoted almost half his broadcast to that (and that was news worthy, so I'm not complaining). And he can't be the "all election fraud show, all the time" or he'd lose viewers (even Dem viewers).

But, he still is reporting on the outrages of the day - mostly GOP outrages like Torture Gonzoles and the flight of the Rummy Bee and the latest obnoxious comment from right wing pundits and Armstrong Williams.

[ClassWarrior]

6. Wow, this is a lovely little cesspool of un-Progressive spite.

NGU.

[catgirl]

9. Being hopeful for one honest reporter is not un-progressive

Accepting the state of our media today is un-progressive.
Un-progressive is a nation whose government PAYS
the media to spread propaganda.

[ClassWarrior]

11. Of course it isn't - hope is one of the most cherished Progressive values.

But the spite and pessimism characterized by some of the comments in this thread - WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER - is hateful in a way that would make the Radical RW proud. And all it serves to do is suggest once again that Progressives are all alone and have no one to trust.

Forget it! I ain't drinking THAT kool-aid. We have the whole world and more than half the nation standing with us.

NGU.

[bleever]

20. Hmmm...I think we may have to have an MLK Day DUDQ thread.

e.g.: "I Have a Dream...not that it's gonna do any good."

:hi:

[RevCheesehead]

41. ROFLMAO!!

Oh, Bleever -
I'll see ya after the KOEB meeting! :)

[tngledwebb]

10. Sometimes MSM lets something slip out that shouldn't.

They usually catch it in time. And the offender will be disciplined.

[tinanator]

12. Or when something ghastly goes down

they need to bury a story, so they feign coverage and outrage while digging the hole and kicking the story in. Does this sound like something MSNBC would do?
the media is the main culprit here, dont forget that.

[Al-CIAda]

15. good point...I think he did his best though (for what he was allowed)

Still, his bosses sign the checks.

[tngledwebb]

17. Agreed. US MSM works in mysterious ways.

Sets up D. Rather with piss-ant planted 'lies' to cover the big smelly one of an AWOL Prez, then pretends to fix the problem with a few sackings.

NYT does a too-little-too-late mea culpa for not checking their sources, while continuing four years of BushCo BS propaganda via Judith Miller.

MSNBC lets Olbermann tease the stolen election issue for a few weeks, then drops it off the radar in time for the next usurpation/ coronation.

And NYT calls DU a hotbed for crazy conspiracy theories for one tsunami post, and hardly mentions our varied and detailed analysis of the stolen election unless linked to that dismissive 'CT' epithet.

Why? Don't know exactly, but it's not by chance, and it's enough to make a grown DU'er paranoid.

[MajorFlaw]

13. IIRC, KO made a point of reporting on the election fraud issue every night

he was on, from election day through the challenge. What more is he supposed to do? His job is to report news, not make it. I'm sure he would have been very happy to cover a successful recount, challenge or legal appeal, but we weren't able to make it happen. I can't see where Olbermann deserves anything but praise for talking about the issue when others would not. Do we really need to shoot our allies.

[satya]

25. Well said! n/t

[smartvoter]

14. What's left? It was certified. He's a newsman, not a crusader. nt

[McCamy Taylor]

16. Armstrong Williams was outed by Karl Rove for people like Keith

Rove knew that the moderate-left leaning journalists would have a field day with a right wing commentator gone bad so he fed them Williams, knowing it would distract them from stuff like Votergate, WMDgate. THis was especially true coming as it did on the heels of the firing of Mary Mapes which was bound the raise the ire of the moderate-lefties at the MSM.

Keith is only human, and hell, the Armstrong Williams story deserves to be told. It's just too bad that the MSM rations the moderate-left news to like one hour out of 24 each day. Less really, because they make him cover fluff news like Micheal Jackson, too.

[crispini]

18. Um, what else would he report on?

Right now this story has turned into something very slow, subtle, and long-range. Interesting, but not exactly the stuff of nightly news.

Edited to add: What, a KO thread without :loveya: ? Can't have that!

[McCamy Taylor]

19. True

:hug:

[El Fuego]

21. On January 6th, Olbermann hardly mentioned the event

I made a point of recording Countdown January 6th because I wasn't going to be home and I thought he would have the best coverage of the electoral vote certification. But he glossed over story in about 30 seconds. To me his tone almost seemed like "Those silly democrats"!

I was VERY disappointed. I haven't really watched him since.

[gkhouston]

22. it was a lot longer than 30 seconds

and I remember he got in a good snark about the repugs reacting to the challenge as if the Visigoths were attacking the Capitol. The tone was that no one expected the challenge to be successful (I think that's a realistic assessment of the situation) which meant that the repugs *blew* a chance to take a bipartisan look at a questionable election. On the whole, I thought the repubs came off looking pretty badly in this segment. I didn't feel that he was mocking or trivializing what the challengers did, at all.

[crispini]

24. Did you watch the same broadcast I did?

I'm pretty sure his was the ONLY show to run that wonderful "montage" of clips of the Senators and Representatives speaking out. Boxer, S T-J, Conyers, Obama and more, all got airtime of their speaking out, with some of their best lines (and of course the Rethuglicans did too). IIRC that montage took up at least four or five minutes of airtime, even without the intro and commentary.

[El Fuego]

26. I guess I just expected more.

After I watched it, I was like, "That's it???" It must have been my frame of mind. I thought it would be the big big news lead story, with lots of commentary about the ramifications etc.

[Patsy Stone]

27. Crispini?

How did we get to this place? :)



Ah, much better. :loveya: :hi:

There's coverage if there's news. On last Friday's show during the quiz, there was a question about Kathy B.'s solicitation letter where he made a point of mentioning that "corporate donations are against the law."

[gkhouston]

28. Gosh, you're right, and that wasn't part of the question.

Either he was greasing for bonus points or he wanted to get that little factoid out on the air... and there aren't any bonus points in the Friday night quiz. Oh, how I love it when he flounders on the math questions...

G.

[Patsy Stone]

29. Yes and

I'm bad in math, too. We're just perfect for each other. :)

[gkhouston]

30. Sure, Patsy. Why don't you just trot right over to

MSNBC and tell him that. Leave us a number where we can reach your lawyer.

:eyes:

[crispini]

31. LOL.

Oh, and I notice that my earlier post has a shameful lack of these: :loveya:

So to remedy the omission: :loveya::loveya::loveya:

[Patsy Stone]

32. Please call

Alan Dershowitz. :) Thanks, but I think I'll just stay here, in cyberspace, where it's safe.

ed: sp

[Miami Liberal]

33. LOL!

This serious thread has been hijacked by us. No KO thread will ever be safe again! :D

For KO :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[noamnety]

34. definitely NOT glossed over

I went back to our original thread from that day, as we were watching. Here's a quote from Clark2008, as the show was going on:

Wow!! This is strong testimony. I'm only seeing it for the first time.

Crispini did a rush summary as she was watching:
KO: 1877 was last time EC vote was stopped.

Good vid. of S T-J and Boxer. Ya Boxer! Video of Conyers talking about stuff. Then DeLay and Drier. And Obama. saying that W won Ohio. Then Oxley, Voinovich. Lewis from GA.

Dammn, that was like greatest hits from today!

KO: R's "treated it as if capital had been pillaged by Visigoths" LOL

Commementator Crawford: D's making trouble, hurling words. They had this fight right out of the box.

Bennett's "really mean" statement.

KO: Why did both sides treat this like political dynamite? Crawford: This was an opportunity for a bipartisan look at these problems. Boxer made a good point today.

KO: Are we gonna get that? Will this put any fire under voting reform? Crawford: partisan spit fest all the way, D's don't have any power. We have one party rule in Washington. D's left with these sort of protest moments. This is the problem with one party rule. We have an electoral sytsem that doesn't work, we spend more money on prison food than on elections in this country.


More comments from the DU viewers:
"Frustrating to not have more, but at least now we have people on the TV actually saying things like "one-party rule" and "the electoral system doesn't work" and the Blivets openly opposing fair and free elections in their own repulsive way. The election fraud/suppression issue isn't as nearly invisible as it was. Let's hope the lights get turned up on high-beam on this cesspool. They've been hiding out of sight like a bunch of fat cockroaches for far too long.

And I am most impressed with the pillaging Visigoths line. Not only colorful (history major or minor?) but also shows his own disgust with their behavior. Quite revealing, that sarcasm."

"OK that was great, great coverage of the Ohio elector contesting!!!!!!!"

[Patsy Stone]

35. Show transcript -- 1/6/05

OLBERMANN: The other story in Washington today is perhaps best contextualized by this little note. Since the last time it happened, the Senate had confirmed 45 different attorneys general, including seven with the first name William.

The last time anybody stopped the counting of the Electoral College votes for president in order to debate the legitimacy of popular voting in one state had been in 1877 after the disastrous Hayes-Tilden election.

Then came California Senator Barbara Boxer‘s decision to provide the signature required from her house alongside that of Representative
Stephanie Tubbs-Jones of Cleveland, the objectors citing irregularities in you guessed it -— Ohio, the objection sending the senators back to their half of the Capitol. Both houses then required to engage in separate and full debate.

This was the lead-in, and I didn't post the video clip or the long interview with Craig Crawford, but it's all here. Go, KO! :loveya:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6799415/

[EFerrari]

36. I'm mailing this thread to KO. He'll never do any other story again

[Patsy Stone]

38. LOL

He'll also have a lot of pissed off women on his hands! LOL :hi:

[EFerrari]

39. Guys, too! They all like him. Damn, we even forgive Wm Hung! lol

[Patsy Stone]

40. Will

forgive if it never happens again. However, there is a whole new season of American Idol starting, so who knows what's in store. :)

[SmokingJacket]

37. What's new to report?

What he reported on still stands -- but there's not much in the way of "news" to report. The nasty little monkey is going to be inaugurated in a couple of days.

His job now is to continue to report on the admin's misdeeds.

[LiberalHeart]

42. I've missed his frequent blog updates....

I wish he'd share his views every day. I can't get his show on cable, and look forward to seeing what he has to say. I enjoy him, regardless of the topic.

I've been wondering if the slowdown on the blog is the result of his being ill. He did say on one blog entry that he was in his sick bed. Has he appeared ill on TV?

[rehema]

43. AMEN! Come back Keith O

I love reading his articles on ANY subject.