What about a campaign to get the press to cover the fraud?

[Nancy Waterman]

Should we all write to CNN and CBS? No one in the mainstream media is mentioning a word while it is burning up cyberspace.

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. wite to teh press

the corporate press

Look they will NOT cover it, they are in this with them, they are part of the fix

give up on the US Media, they are the enemy

Oh and I am sorry to sound this negative, but the press has not been with us for many years

I remember asking at one point if the press was going to actually start coverng the news

You and others said taht you saw that commiing

It has only gotten worst... so the press IS the enemy

[sunnybrook]

what about the Guardian?

One way may be to contact the more open British Press and maybe it could come in that way... i.e. we would like to see this in our media but they refuse to report it... or do you think this could backfire like the letter writing campaign from England to Ohio? feedback please...

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[cdp]

34. Keith Olbermann from MSNBC

Some of you may already notice this, but here is what Keith Olbermann from MSNBC wrote last night.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240

"Thus the majority of the media has yet to touch the other stories of Ohio (the amazing Bush Times Ten voting machine in Gahanna) or the sagas of Ohio South: huge margins for Bush in Florida counties in which registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans 2-1, places where the optical scanning of precinct totals seems to have turned results from perfect matches for the pro-Kerry exit poll data, to Bush sweeps."

"Gotta dash now. Some of us have to get to work on the Warren and Florida stories. In the interim, Senator Kerry, kindly don’t leave the country."

[ClassWarrior]

2. Yes. Definitely.

That's how it gets from cyberspace to the corporate media. Will you organize it, Nancy?

NGU.

[Eloriel]

6. It would be great if someone organized a media initiative, and

also, it's vitally important to tell all your friends, your relatives, Congress, EVERYONE including the media --

Not to spam the thread, but that's why we put this together, now we need some implementation from DUers:

VOTE FRAUD? Tell everyone you know -- details
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1337662

[WestHoustonDem]

3. Just for the heck of it

I already wrote to C-SPAN and CNN. It would be great to see Bev Harris on Washington Journal.

[99Pancakes]

36. I have already begun

writing the major papers about voter fraud/voting irregularities/Bev Harris and will continue to do so. Look at what a small but vocal minority did to Sinclair Broadcasting and their sponsors (I was part of that). Never hurts to continue banging on pots and pans like in the kid's book "Horton Hears a Who".

[newyawker99]

42. Hi 99Pancakes!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[99Pancakes]

45. Belated Thanks!

Glad to be with my own kind!!
:bounce:

[Eloriel]

4. Like this?

VOTE FRAUD? Tell everyone you know -- details
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1337662

[Cha]

5. Yes, we can campaign to get

the fascist media to cover this..meanwhile ..I'm happy the true media is covering this.

[splat]

7. sure, and bev will send them evidence

From a post this morning from Bev Harris:

We are writing reports that distill specific indicators of fraud into a quick analysis with documents attached. These are one by one, as we get the information in, back it up with documents, and verify its authenticity.

We need help with distribution lists in a spreadsheet form.

- We have a Cadillac media list, don't need that....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2616753

[Cha]

9. Why is that thread locked,splat?

Do you know?

[dweller]

17. it's just archived

so no response time left.

dp

[Cha]

18. Thanks!

:toast:

[Nicholas_J]

8. Its not likely to happen

Look at what happened after the Clinton impeachement. The public was so tired of presidential scandal that when in the 2000 election the media attempted todeal with Bush's drug arrests, drunken driving arrests, miltary record, even possible scnadals involving Bush being saccused of rape no one wanted to hear about it. After the 2000 election the media just doesnt want to risk boring the public with something they beleive it doesnt want to hear. The public are really wimpy when it comes to such things. They really seem to have no stomach for scandal at the government level, and it looks like they would prefer to have a president who cheated than go through the process of continual trials of the president on television, interferring with the soap operas or monday night football.

In many ways Am,ericans simply are undeserving of Democracy. They are entirely contented with their bread and circuses. Their Jack daniels and hookers on saturday nights and their asking Jesus for forgiveness on sunday morning.
Small town values at their best.

[Cha]

10. Don't throw in the towel...some

of us will fight to the Death for Democracy and I'm not just being dramatic!

[wildflower]

12. Or they might chuckle over it the way they did with "the bulge"...

in *'s back. At least that's how I saw the news cover it. Something like:

"Our picture of the morning: Internet bloggers everywhere are talking about this "bulge"--what is it?" (ANCHORS CHUCKLE)

"In our next half hour, more on the Jackson case." (SERIOUS FACES RETURN)

[ClassWarrior]

13. Sure, just give up. Nothing to see here.

NGU.

[Nicholas_J]

15. Nope not giving up

It will just be that whoever investigates thismust do it in secrecy and with a great deal of stealth so that any smlla errors that will led not only to the frand, but to those who planned it will not be looked for as closely, and not be asi easily vcovered up. Also if anything that would be so newspworthy that the press did not dare ignore it to occur, and people had to be subpoenaed, it could be done wquickly without giving away enough information that the people being cross examinined could get together to create stories that all could agree on. If people are goten to quickly, someone very good at cross examination can get to the truth, or at lest to where stories differ enough to prove that there are great enough inconsistancies for Grand Jury to determine that there is enough of a case to bring the entire thing to trial, with an independent counsellor to investigate it.

My feelings are, that Kerry conceded the election so quickly in order to start doing things behind the scene. Fighting the results would have ended up giving BushCo the time and ability to go back over everything and do a better job at sanitizing any fraud. A good time for Kerry to start bringing out anything that is initianlly found would be around the time that the Iraqi elections are expected. This wold also coincide with the inauguration , and BushCo would be too busy to respond quickly or devote as full attention to the charges than at any other time.

[Cha]

19. Good!

Glad to hear this!

[txindy]

22. I agree with you

I think this is exactly what's happening behind the scenes right now.

[shoopnyc123]

11. About to happen, since we are always ahead of the curve...

....and, I should add, that ain't always fun...

[ClassWarrior]

14. So true - but let's give it a kick in the ass anyway...

...because it's always fun to kick corporate media whores in the ass.

NGU.

[molly]

16. The 2nd caller into C-Span this morning talked about the

negative vote counts. If enough call in, they cannot ignore it.

[Cha]

20. It's not over yet..

the smug son of bitches!

[txindy]

21. That's what I've been doing for two days now.

Taking the evidence we have of irregularities in different states and emailing the media, particularly the print media, wire services, the BBC, the CBC, Rather, and Olbermann.

Go to the media list and hit it HARD:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x816939

[Karenina]

23. Stand in front of their offices

and especially their remote trucks SCREAMING until they REPORT the story. They've stolen your airwaves and use them to assault you, raining bullshit from the skies 24/7. TAKE THEM BACK. File suits against Sinclair. Hit their sponsors in the wallet.

[tarheel_voter]

24. Not CNN... we need the NY Times on this

The key is getting the New York Times to write an investigative piece. That would shake up the landscape. The Rethugs would go on offense against this story... but the intensity of their attack could make this a huge event. Since Kerry already conceded this could become Bush's first scandal of his second term!

[Lil]

25. Bev Harris: there will be no TV coverage of the real problems[DUlinkbelow]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2636130

BevHarris (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-08-04 12:03 AM

I was tipped off by a person very high up in TV that the news has been locked down tight, and there will be no TV coverage of the real problems with voting on Nov. 2. Even the journalists are pretty horrified. My source said they've also been forbidden to talk about it even on their own time, and he was calling from somewhere else. He was trying to figure out how to get the real news out on vote fraud.

This is a person I've worked with off and on for nearly two years, and the voice was so somber it really bothered me.

At any rate -- and perhaps, especially important due to the tipoff above, there are things you can do to take back America.

more

[Carolab]

26. We need to do this ourselves

I made a few suggestions to Bev and Michael

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

27. Someone Cheer Me Up Please

<<At any rate -- and perhaps, especially important due to the tipoff above, there are things you can do to take back America.>>

Yeah, but the people with the power to make the real difference, and expose this story, are apparently not going to be allowed to. We may be intelligent, we may all have professional licenses, PhD's, and be people completely capable of reason. But before long, without ANY media support, we're going to be portrayed as left-wing wackos, sore losers, who are trying to jump to incredible conclusions based on way out statistics. I mean, they've already convinced the population that science and doctors don't know what they're talking about in regards to stem cell research, so they won't have a problem with saying statistics are meaningless too.

All this apparent COLLUSION is making me SICK to be an American. I believe what is being said here is right. I believe it's a good and noble fight. But I'm ashamed of what this country and it's leaders are obviously capable of, including now a complete shutdown of Freedom Of The Press. It's almost time for me to go. I think if I stay, I might not live to regret it, because the more I despise the government, the more I'm likely to say something to get myself in trouble....or worse!

[loudsue]

28. Pull it together, OCD.....our forefathers/mothers prolly felt that, too...

And if they had thrown in the towel, we never would have had the opportunity to experience the lives we have lived up to this point.

You are now "THE PRESS"/ "THE MEDIA". It's not that hard!!

Let's go do it!!

:kick::kick:

[grasswire]

29. always remember...

...that the dissenting people of the USSR were reduced to communicating news with carbon copies of typewritten messages, passed hand to hand.

We have printing presses. We have copiers and scanners and fax machines and email.

We are not without means.

It still is possible to post flyers and distribute literature and wear buttons and carry signs.

[99Pancakes]

37. Power to the People

* still hasn't taken control of the media the way his pal has in Russia (ugh--what a horrid thought).

[newyawker99]

43. Hi OrangeCountyDemocrat!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[tommcintyre]

30. Let me know if I can help: EVOTING FRAUD RESOURCE CENTER

http://www.independentmediasource.com/evotingfraud.htm


Sections:

Article Sections:

11-2-04 and newer:

Featured

Evoting

On Site

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Older



Other Sections:

Web sites

New Additions

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Things you can do



Hundreds of resources available through these pages

UPDATED CONSTANTLY. CHECK THE "New Additions" PAGE EACH TIME YOU COME BACK


SPREAD THE WORD. PROPAGATE THIS EVERYWHERE!

(Lots of bandwidth)
Du post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=28512&mesg_id=28512

Please send me suggested links, etc.

I'm not getting here 'nuff to keep up completely here.

[AirAmFan]

31. 'ELECTORAL CYBERSECURITY' could be a very useful phrase to get media

attention for probable vote hacking in rural counties in Ohio and Florida. Reporters such as Greg Palast, Robert Scheer, Arianna Huffington, Joe Conason, Paul Krugman, Robin Blumner, and Bob Herbert might get the ball rolling in one of their columns--this is just their cup of tea.

Other mainstream reporters may be sympathetic to investigating Dubya's very suspicious "mandate", but they need back-door approaches to get their stories past their editors and legal departments.

Vote-hacking is a HOMELAND SECURITY issue. Richard Clarke resigned his position as White House cybersecurity czar because Rove and company's political agenda took precedence over cybersecurity. The head of cybersecurity at DHS, a former Symantec (Norton) executive, resigned last month for the same reasons as Clarke.

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x27957 , especially post #7 and the chain of replies to that post.

[Liberalynn]

35. a small idea

Hi Everyone,

I am new here. I too was saddened by the results of the election and came to seek comfort with some like minded people.

I have a small idea. What about all of us going to search engines today on the net and typing in queries like voter fraud 2004 even though we've already read the stories here? Is it possilbe we could then get the phrase on the list of top searched for things on Yahoo, Google, Dogpile, MSN? I mean other people might be curious and click on it and see some of the exsisting net stories on this issue.

I was already somewhat heartened to see Michael Moore's name is on Yahoo's list this morning.

This may be a silly idea but I thought I'd offer it just in case.

As I think Carl Sagan once said "it is better to light a single candle than curse the darkness."

CPMuse

Susan B. Anthony: "Failure is Impossible"

[newyawker99]

44. Hi cpmuse!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Oak2004]

38. Here's what I just suggested elsewhere

A summary being:

New Yorkers and others where TV broadcasts are being made with crowds in the background, and hold up signs about election fraud

Use posters and flyers to get the word out -- low tech works, too.

Write the international media. If the international media covers the issue, then our media will have to follow.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=29699&mesg_id=30159

Additionally I just read in another thread about an Ohio state legislator speaking out. Stolen staters, write your local legislators and other local officials. It's hard for the local media to ignore them.

[lostnfound]

39. They will whitewash it with fluffy stuff; need to target the right people.

Maybe Lou Dobbs since he was interested in BBV.
Seymour Hersh.

[On the Road]

40. Yes. Yes. But

it MUST be focused on undeniable patterns of fraud:

-- More votes than registed voters
-- More ballots counted than people showing up at the polls

Two or three smoking guns of this type are more effective than a unproveable assertions. It does NOT help the campaign to say "I can't believe the vote was so far from the exit polls." It does not help to say "Bush won by more than expected in Dieblod counties." It does not help to say "where did Bush get 8 million new voters." All those can be dismissed.

It has to be done quickly, but it's more important to check the data against the original sources and have an ironclad argument. Making unproveable assertions can poison the well for legitimate evidence that shows up later. (Eg, Some of the claims that exit polling matched the vote only where there was a paper trail were based on bad data. Nevada exit polls deviated by more than OH or FL.)

I hope this doesn't sound nasty or pessimistic, but there's a lot of speculation and a lot of unproveable assertions flying around. This is OK for DU, but standards change when we go to the media. There may be only ONE chance to make this an issue -- otherwise it sinks into oblivion.

[grasswire]

41. please see this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x30468

[Liberty Belle]

46. GAMEPLAN TO FORCE MEDIA COVERAGE OF STOLEN ELECTION

GAME PLAN FOR GAINING NATIONAL MEDIA COVERAGE OF THE STOLEN ELECTION

The big media companies blacking out the stolen election story are all publicly held companies traded on the New York Stock Exchange. They have a legal obligation to their stockholders not to do anything that jeopardizes stock prices or stability. We should all contact the CEO (chief executive officer) and CFO (chief financial officer) of each parent company and inform them that we are urging Democrats to sell their stock (including any invested through money markets) and boycott the companies' products unless they will quit suppressing this important story and pursue an aggressive investigation into voting fraud, including tampering with voting machines.

Ask them specifically to mention the Congressional members calling for investigations by the FBI and GAO, as well as the investigation launched by Blackboxvoting.org. Contact info is below.

ABC is owned by Disney, which of course owns Disney theme parks, Disney movies, Disney videos, toys, etc. Just before Christmas shopping season this could really hurt Disney. NBC is owned 80% by General Electric and 20% by Vivendi. You should know that GE is profiting directly from Pentagon contracts. CNN is owned by Time Warner (which owns Warner Brothers movie studios, so boycott their films). CBS is owned by Viacom; Viacom's top executive endorsed Bush.

For NBC (NBC and Vivendi) we should thank them for Keith Olbermann's coverage on Countdown, but urge them to cover this on their nightly news as well. I would suggest telling NBC that Democrats are organizing a boycott and stock sell-off for the other networks, but we are taking a wait-and-see approach with NBC since MSNBC has been the first to break this story.

I didn't bother with Fox, since I assume they're beyond redemption.

Here is the contact info on each company:

Disney (DIS) owns ABC
Michael Eisner, CEO
George Mitchell, Chairman
Thomas Staggs, CFO
phone: [phone]
fax: [phone]

Viacom (VIA) owns CBS
Summer Redstone, CEO
Richard Bressler, CFO
phone: [phone]
fax: [phone]

Time Warner (TWX) owns CNN
Richard (Dick) Parsons, CEO
Wayne Pace, CFO
phone: [phone]
fax: [phone]

General Electric (GE) owns 80% of NBC
Jeff Immelt, CEO
Keith Sherin, CFO
phone: [phone]
fax: [phone]

Vivendi (owns 20% of NBC)
Jean-Rene Fourtou, CEO
Jacques Espinosa, CFO
phone: [phone]
fax: [phone]



Feel free to forward this, post it on websites, and make print-outs to pass out. This is urgent!

[Renew Deal]

47. People need to hit the streets.