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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:28 PM
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The Bush Opposition: First acts of solidarity
If ever we need focus and solidarity, it is now.

I think every person who reads DU and aspires to saving our franchise of democracy and restoring a principled role for our Nation in the service of humanity and the planet can agree that we are almost out of time.

Rather than hurtling forward bashing Kerry or not; belittling Gore or not; brandishing Dean as savior or not.......how about we ALL do one thing. How about we take two steps in the direction of exhibiting that we understand the scale of the threat, the need for solidarity in facing the threat.

First, state the threat unambiguously -- IT IS BUSH.

Don't argue nuances -- it's really Scaife, Ahmanson and the necons; he's just a puppet on Cheney's string; it's the msm's fault; blahblahblah. We all know all that stuff.

In order to dismantle the threat in the most efficient way possible, we brand it, simply -- BUSH's. In specific forms, call it what it is: Bush's war; Bush's polluted environment; Bush's torture mandate; Bush's coronation; Bush's fiscal disaster; Bush's rigged vapor ballots; Bush's ......

Second, take a specific action -- sign and gather signatures on a simple petition.

The Petition

Senator Kerry, we the undersigned petition you to step forward, as a patriotic American citizen, and accept the role of leader of a broadly non-partisan endeavor to rid America of those who seek to destroy it. Senator Kerry, commit to lead The Bush Opposition.

Ask Dean to sign it; ask Gore to sign it; ask everyone to sign it -- millions and millions and millions of Americans to sign just one petition. Those who read this list and have access to Senator Kerry -- take the petition to him and ask him to be the first to sign it.

By bringing laser-type focus on Senator Kerry we do many things. We learn to accept that no person is perfect; we indicate to him that we have recognized why so many worked so hard and why so many voted for him; we indicate that WE KNOW HE WON. We also leverage the fact that numerous leaders in other countries respect him and he gained even more respect by having the courage to travel throughout Iraq at an exceptionally dangerous time.

And, at a moment of considerable dispair throughout our Nation, and the world, for us to succeed in convincing him to step forward as the leader of THE BUSH OPPOSITION, we can convert much of that dispair into productive endeavors. We begin creating a true option for all those in other parties who are distraught and disgusted with Bush.

To succeed, we must ask; we must deliver the mandate to him. It must come from We The People in a way the sends a crystal clear message to everyone, everywhere we are making it happen.

We cannot wait for 'another election' or we likely will only sink further in the horrid slime of the neocon's totalitarian enterprise. Once we have THE BUSH OPPOSITION launched, we can then focus on all the indictments, impeachments, legislative actions and 2006/2008 election issues that we will have a coherent and solid basis for achieving.

So, where would be the best place to post the petition?

Thank you.

"Bush Owns It; Let's Purge It -- Now"
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:36 PM
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1. That is why I am a big fan of BUSH CHEATED
Go to http://bushcheated.50megs.com to download the high res file



And then do this (use 3M Super 77 spray adhesive)



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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:37 PM
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2. Why should Kerry lead? Why not someone else?
Edwards? Clark? Dean? Gore? Or how about Kennedy, Feinstein, Pelosi, Obama, or any one of a lot of other possibilities?
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:54 PM
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6. Pragmatic, principled reasons
He won.

He placed the stability of a Nation embroiled in an illegal and treacherous war before himself and something he wanted more than any of us -- to be President.

He recognized the scale of the illegitimate election process and knew it would take a vast amount of evidence, witnesses, and time to uncover it.

He has demonstrated the strength of character to withstand the backlash of the righteous who thought (think) he should have made an immediate stink.

He has the respect of all the persons you list, probably more so now than before 2 Nov 2004, for the reasons listed above and because they also know how grave the threat BUSH IS to every aspect of what America is supposed to be.

He has the intellectual skill and the personal rigor to be diligent, forceful and successful.

Peace.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 06:52 PM
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10. He dropped out.
Edited on Mon Jan-17-05 06:59 PM by cornermouse
He quit. He vacated the position. I doubt that the people I listed respect him as much as you think he does.

I'm not trying to be mean or negative, what I'm saying is that although everyone's entitled to their own opinion, just don't count on him to be in the lead, don't expect him to try to take back his concession statement, and don't expect everyone to follow him, because I honestly don't think any of it is going to happen.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 10:39 PM
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12. HE DID NOT (n/t)
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:54 PM
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28. He did not quit
He has not been as vocal or visible about his opposition to election fraud as many of us (including me) would have liked to see, but it's unfair to say that he quit. He has made many statements about the need for election reform since his "loss", and even joined a law suit. He also continues to deal with other issues of importance to this country.

I agree with UL. We should offer him the first choice to lead the opposition. If he accepts, that provides even further evidence that he has not quit (although I'm not saying that if he declines that will mean that he has quit).

If he declines, then we should find someone else.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:48 PM
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3. He'd probably say that he is already doing it
He has started a new PAC for the grassroots called Friends of John Kerry, Inc., and is going to enlist all of our support in getting his agenda through to the powers that be. He is committed to doing what he said he'd do during the campaign, and has added election reform as his top priority.
I'd urge everyone to get on his e-mailing list if they aren't already, and be ready to back him up at whatever he is going to be doing during this year, both inside and outside of Congress.

He's not done by a long shot, and knows the threat Bush is to this country. He's not going away.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:51 PM
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4. I'm with you.........nt
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:51 PM
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5. He's actually stepping up to the plate, IMHO
just a bit differently than some would like him to.

I believe that we need to work together. We have strength in numbers. We need to continue to work against the * machine.
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Riding this Donkey Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 05:59 PM
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7. I think I agree Ginny
I'm a Massachusetts Liberal (just found that out recently, always thought I was just a democrat). I always admired the strength and goodness of JK but I was starting to doubt his strength.
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JoMama49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 06:06 PM
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8. I agree with UL - we need to come up with more sound
bites to ward off the RW sound bites, things like "bush lied and so many died". The RW does it with "they want to take your guns away" and "marriage is between a man and a woman" -- we need to have some equally as short, to the point and impactful.
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Democrat Dragon Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:22 AM
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18. How about:

"Bush's cabal will destroy the world"
"Bush hates the constitution"
"Bush's cabal will destroy America in the name of money"
"Bush is evil"
"Bush will bring America to the third world"
"Bush is sacrificing our troops and middle-easteners to his oil god"
"Fascism is not the American way"

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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 06:11 PM
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9. Welcome to DU Riding this Donkey
I was somewhat surprised to learn the same thing about myself. I just thought I was a dem from Mass ... funny how things work out don't they? LOL

If that's the worst they can call us, then we are doing something wrong! ::::wink::::

Welcome!
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 07:02 PM
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11. Amen, * is the threat. The "leaders" will be many and all of them
deserve to be treated with a modicum of respect when they are PROMOTING the cause. If Dean had made that MLK speech this morning EVERYBODY would have been coming out of the woodwork to give him a high five, yet, I have not recently read a statement of this nature having come from him. Does that make me angry at DEAN? No, I think he is doing his part and committing himself to the fight elsewhere.

A "movement" of this nature and this urgency needs MANY spokespeople for the MANY causes that UNITE us! Let's make sure we stay UNITED for the "movement!"

The bashing of our own members is counter-productive!
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:31 PM
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13. Sounds good to me
now that Kerry has returned from the presidential trip * couldn't and wouldn't ever take, I think he's going to get to work. This thread is not to argue about who should take the lead, it's to propose getting to work. He's the guy at least half the country voted for, and I will back him in any fight against these criminals that he cares to take on.

I don't know where the best place to post the petition would be, but I'm all for getting it started.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:46 PM
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14. Thank you for responding to my question and for your insights.
Edited on Mon Jan-17-05 11:47 PM by understandinglife
I think what I will do is send the petition and the background directly to John Kerry and his brother Cameron Kerry.

Perhaps we should consider asking the moderators at DU to sponsor the petition on the 'front page' of DU?

What do you think?

What does everyone think of that specific suggestion?

"Bush Owns It; Let's Purge It -- Now"
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:12 AM
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17. I think it's a good idea.
I know there's a petition site somewhere online, that hosts petitions for people. I'm not sure how it works, and I'm not sure if we'd need one. I think the front page of DU would be the best place. I'd definitely forward it to people, and I'm sure others would, so it wouldn't be limited to DU'ers.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:37 AM
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20. Thank you and...
...I have asked the DU moderators if they would host the petition on the front page. I'll post their response here. Yesterday evening I sent the petition, via email, to both the Senator and his brother.

Peace.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:53 PM
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15. 'Just say no'...
at least corporate owned media. Half of the problem seems to be perception. While we can rely on MSM to not report, or not follow up on the trails of scattered bodies in the wake of whatever ** touches, we can also rely on them to rip anyone who dares speak to power. Damned if you do, but really f*ckd if you don't. Mecessity being the mother of invention,.... somebody must emerge to lead.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-05 11:58 PM
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16. Understandinglife, your patriotism is unquestionable...
I agree with all you say, however, I do not care who leads us. John Kerry - thats ok, but I don't think he has the balls...

Who leads us are people like you or me or one or more of the thousands of the DU. Or Dean, or Cobb, or Edwards, or Kennedy, or ? We, as DU, state our position, our passion, our desires - then our leader will come forward... From nowhere...From within.

Our country is in peril - a peril not felt since the beginning of our United States. Dramatic you say? Not only is our USA deteriorating - our world is as well. We have to take control and promote the health and well-being of our earth.
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Democrat Dragon Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:41 AM
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19. kick
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:11 AM
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21. Bush** & Co are the enemy!!! Most important thing!!!!
Regardless of our reactions to Kerry's concession and action/lack of action regarding fraud, he is a SENATOR who is willing to keep this issue front and center!!!
We need to stick together and encourage ALL senators/reps to do this!!!
Sorry for all the exclamation points, I am just enthusiastic. :)

Thanks for posting this!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 07:03 PM
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22. THE BUSH OPPOSITION EMERGES and Scumdalezza is clueless how...
....to respond.

We Can and Will Prevail everyone.

"Bush Owns It; Let's Purge It - Now"

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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 07:09 PM
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23. "Why are they being so meeeaaannnnn to me???"
I hope that was running through her head all day.

:)
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 07:17 PM
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24. More likely "They reeeeeaaaaaaaallllllllyyyyyyy want to send me to jail"..
.....:evilgrin:

We'll get this job done; count on it.

Peace.


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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:10 PM
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29. I'm with you
Some additional thoughts:
1. I think that exposing the election fraud and fighting to stop it should be a critical focus of this effort (I'm pretty sure that you do also).
2. For my part, I am open to changes in strategy. For example, Kerry might be interested in this effort but think that, for practical reasons, it should have a different name.
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:45 PM
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25. I'm with you too
It's essential, no absolutely vital to stay united behind this man.
Personally I love him, but that's beside the point.
Love him or hate him if you think he deserted us, but back him all the same, it will pay off for all of us.:9
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:34 PM
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26. PLEASE DO IT
Yes, do it now! I'm with you all the way.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:35 PM
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27. i remember you, on my long posting spree today
adn i remember this post from the past. thank you
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:23 PM
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30. I am going to post a request at "Ask the Administrators" if they....
...are willing to allow a post on the front page petitioning Senator Kerry to lead THE BUSH OPPOSITION.

I am more than open to the name being changed, but I think most realize we need to focus on the source of the rot in our Nation.

I am quite enthusiastic of Senator Kerry suggesting "Co-chairs" (particularly Senator Boxer and Congressman Conyers).

But, the real goal, as I think all here realize is to galvanize, solidify the opposition; put a lid on the bickering; and maximally focus on eradicating Bush and his neocon, theocratic cabal.

Thank you.

We will in_DEED prevail.
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