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robicat Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:27 PM
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Perspective......
I think people need to read a history of a Guatamala and countless other places to realise the carnage this nation has wrought on peoples lives and communities through their proxies and covert thuggery. The america that many of you have ignored now is at your own doorstep. And it isn't a pretty sight.

The shock (and denial) many people feel at Democrat complictity in this rising facism is a sign (in my opinion) about the naivity that liberal people in your country have about your nation and government. Why is the history of US foreign policy in Central America a secret history? Answer that question and you will also realise why this election stealing is going to be consigned to the dustbin of history.

It is just too painful for your citizens to face. it doesn't fit with your mythology of manifest destiny. Kerry is complicit. Your party is complicit. Most of us in the western world are complicit in some way. Betcha Kerry more than most. Always has been always will be. Clinton bombed that baby food factory in the Sudan i recall. 500,000 Iraqis died under sanctions that were held in place by the Democrats in power. So lets not pretend that this party somehow lost it's cherry when JK conceded.



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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:34 PM
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1. Oh, you mean the John Kerry who EXPOSED the illegal wars in Central
America?

The John Kerry who EXPOSED the drugrunning by Bush1 and his loyalist bagmen in the CIA?

Methinks you need to go back and read the actual history of the events you are posting about.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:43 PM
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2. f* anymore you want to bring to the table to be a downer
what the f* makes you think people dont know all this shit. and we still go on. working our ass off to bring things to awareness. do we have utopia, nope, are we troubled you bet. thanks for the help,.....all this negative energy, lets just curl up in fetus postion and give up and suck our thumbs

oh i know why, i have two little boys that will adopt this world and i am not about to give up. you want to go for it, i will be busy.....
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:15 PM
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3. Wow you either hate all Americans
Or you got the freeper memo today that it's time to fight this board.
which is it?

If you truly feel that the western mind is inherently evil...
that all Americans (Dem's and re pugs) are of the same fascist mindset. Then your thinking is eerily similar to "by grace alone can ye be saved!! for all are wicked !!" (The "all are wicked" part but without any hope of grace or anybody gettin' any savin' in your version of it)
That is not good and you should seek either help or Jeebus.

If you got "the memo"
Then it is interesting because "Not by works" seems to be the motto of the infiltration today "don't participate in petitions", "how dare a senator speak out" blah blah blah..

Either way I never believed in the old "not by works, but by grace alone for we are all cocksuckers" bullshit.
I learned long ago that the people that teach those thought patterns are the nastiest people of all and least likely to ever take any real responsibility for what they do even while condemning all around them.

I choose to ignore you....
Perhaps I should bind or banish you?
No you are not dangerous...merely irrelevent...

...enjoy your freedom and your pessimism and bother me no more

so mote it be
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:42 PM
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6. I don't think that at all! however....
I DO think the "powers that be" in this country, others, and thruout history have attempted to control more power in various evil ways, and we "the People" have to make them understand that they are not in charge, We are! We have to stop these people from giving us REAL Americans a bad rep! They do not have America's best interests at heart, there's no room, for all the greed takin up the space. We Americans are the melting pot of how many different colours? I have English, Dutch, German, Prussian, Irish, and 3 different American Indian Tribes running thru my body. I am an American, and as we've researched my families histories, and I've read the letters of all these immigrants and pioneers.... this is not what they wanted for this country...

We can whimper and give it up, or we can stand up and show them who has the power in America.

<rant off>
wow. I feel cleansed. still pissed tho
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:18 PM
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4. need to put some eye drops...
your post got me irritation..
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:24 PM
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5. back to Woodrow Wilson at least...
(from Lies My Teacher Told me - James W. Lowewen)

1900 - 1920 we made colonies of Nicaragua, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Haiti, and several other countries...

by the mid 1920's Wilson's successors reversed his policies in Latin America...

we were back at it by what, 1940? (haven't read that far yet)
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:45 PM
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7. Perspective.
No Democrat could EVER be as thoroughly and completely a CRIMINAL as Bush**, Cheney**, and the Radical RightWing.

Dick Nixon must be proud.

NGU.


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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:47 PM
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8. alert.snooze.puke.bye (n/t)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:02 PM
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9. Memo to Robicat: "Shit Happens" Welcome to DU
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:14 PM
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10. HEY robicat ..........Take a good hard look and remember
KERRY! KERRY! KERRY! KERRY!





"FOR AMERICA, THE HOPE IS THERE!! THE SUN IS RISING!! OUR BEST DAYS ARE STILL TO COME!!"














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