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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 05:11 PM
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Let's Email Ted Koppel NOW!
and tell him that regardless of what his story will say tonight, the vote cannot be verified!

<http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/News/story?id=64544>

List the 5 bills in Congress blocked by the Repukes that would have mandated the Voter-Verified Paper Ballot. See:

<http://www.verifiedvoting.org/article.php?list=type&type=43>

Tell him that a lot of the suspicion could be mitigated by having VVPBs in all states and mandatory random audits.

This is yet another golden opportunity. The other one was Jan 6, in case you haven't figured that out yet!

It's time to go mainstream on this issue people!

We are the true PATRIOTS!

Thanks!
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JoMama49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 05:42 PM
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1. Done! I implored him not to report with bias, but stand up like
a man and be a real journalist!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 05:46 PM
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2. My email:
Dear Mr Koppel,

The 2004 presidential election is invalid.

More than 30 % of the American eligible voters used vapor ballot devices.

No means exist to verify to each of those voters that their vote was recorded as they intended.

None.

It is an unarguable, unambiguous fact. The technology used does not permit verification to the voter that their vote was recorded and tabulated as they intended.

In addition, when we look at 'exit poll' data -- those states that used ballot methods that support verification, such as Oregon, we find no deviation from the prediction of the exit poll. In every state in which a vapor-ballot device was used (even if only used in one or two counties, such as WA State) we have a uniform shift in the prediction of the exit poll information -- a uniform shift from Kerry to Bush.

That could not have happened by chance.

Coupled with the fact that NO means exist to verify to each voter that their vote was recorded as they intended, in each of those States, and the conclusion is inescapable.

WE HAVE NO ELECTION.

Our American franchise of democracy and the Constitution on which it is based are being threatened. The most anti-American act conceivable -- permitting a potentially invalid election to stand -- is about to be indelibly recorded.

Why don't you be a true patriot and have the courage to call HALT.

Thank you,
======================================

BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION; 24/7

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joevoter Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 08:27 PM
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13. one correction - Oregon does not use exit polls
because they have a mail in ballot.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 08:47 PM
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14. Correct; typo noted; thanks. (n/t)


BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION; 24/7
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 06:00 PM
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3. Done. n/t
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icehenge Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 06:07 PM
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4. done
I commented on the verifiable voter trail and lack of
it with computerized voting.
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greenmutha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 06:54 PM
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5. Done! My letter to Nightline:
Concerning your show tonight on the 2004 Election:

Am I correct in assuming that you have thoroughly read and investigated all the facts put forth in the House Judiciary's Report "Preserving Democracy: What Went Wrong in Ohio" prior to the compilation of this show? If not, here's a link to it:

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/ohiostatusrept1505.pdf

It would probably be a good idea to check the contents of this document out; it is now part of the Congressional Record as of 01-06-05.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 07:12 PM
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6. Done. nt
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 07:18 PM
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7. Done
Thanks
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intensitymedia Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 07:29 PM
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8. Done! Good idea - n/t
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 07:36 PM
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9. Done.
I used to think a lot of Ted. Here's hoping he doesn't disappoint.
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 07:42 PM
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10. done -nt
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 07:47 PM
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11. When I read earlier about this show....
tonight I felt kind of sick. I did email Mr. Koppel and said I'd always respected him in his chosen career, and hoped he didn't join some of his colleagues in truth-bashing...and that also he should treat this story with very deliberate thought, as it would be better not reported at all than to impugn the facts.
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 08:21 PM
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12. In case you missed the Nightline email on tonight's show....
goddamn crap about the internet --
Is John Fucking Conyers the Fucking Internet????!?!?!?!?!?!?!


VOTE 2004: FAIR OR FRAUD? Jan. 19, 2005

In this very partisan atmosphere, it may not surprise you to hear that there are some people out there who believe the winner of the 2004 U.S. presidential race was John Kerry -- that he should be the focus of the extravagant inaugural parade that will make its way up Pennsylvania Avenue to the White House tomorrow. These very vocal critics believe that because of voting irregularities in Ohio on Election Day, George Bush actually lost the election. Some go even further to say that the Republicans conspired to steal it.

Washington has been dressed up once again for the festivities, so it seems a little late, but tonight we'll listen to the arguments and see if they have any merit. If there had been more voting machines and less partisan oversight of the voting in Ohio, John Kerry would have carried the state, and had the electoral votes to carry the election. That's what some people think.

Many of these arguments need to be looked at in the context of the vote in 2000, which also had serious problems and where partisan politics did play a role. It ended up in the Supreme Court and there are still people who believe Al Gore won it fair and square. But do the irregularities in Ohio rise to the same level? Or are we being subjected to much more concentrated criticism because of that anonymous engine of information called the Internet?

Part of the problem surrounding the various arguments about what happened in Ohio (and other states) is that those exit polls threw people off once again. By early afternoon on Election Day the poll results were being leaked very early on, showing that John Kerry was in the winner's column. Those results were turned upside down later by the actual results. But those early results had a lot of people convinced.

"Nightline" correspondent Chris Bury, who was in Ohio on Election Day, sorts through all of this to see if any of the arguments that George Bush lost have any merit.

And what about some of the political shenanigans in past presidential elections? There are many great stories about the way political machines used to operate and who got paid to make them run. Ted Koppel will chat with two entertaining Washington watchers who will gingerly remove those political skeletons from the closet, just for some perspective. We hope you'll join us.

Gerry Holmes & The Nightline Staff
Senior Producer
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:33 PM
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15. Thanks y'all. Here's mine:
Jan. 19, 2005

Dear Mr. Kopple,

I hope your election story tonight will explain to your viewers that Since May 2003, members of the House and Senate from both major parties have attempted to bring no less than five (5) bills to the floor to require a voter-verified paper ballot in all states. They are: HR2239, HR4187, S1980, S2313 and S2437. I hope you will look them up.

Each time, the Republican leadership has refused to allow these bills to come to a vote. Meanwhile, the People’s vote has become unverifiable in many states of our nation.

Due to the obstruction of this urgently needed legislation, no conspiracy theory, allegation of fraud, or evidence of voter disenfranchisement is necessary to cast severe doubt in our electoral process in the mind of any informed voter. It is therefore not surprising that the 2004 National Exit Poll commissioned by ABC and the other networks has shown that half of all voters did NOT have full confidence that their votes were counted accurately in their states.

It is this refusal to allow verified voting legislation to move forward in either the Senate or the House that has given rise to the uncertainty, conspiracy theories, and the loss of faith in the system expressed by members of both parties and some Democratic representatives in Congress, culminating in the historic objection to the electoral votes of the state of Ohio on Jan 6, 2005. The Republicans have therefore brought this on themselves.

If this problem is not rectified by the 109th Congress, doubts about the results of future elections will become commonplace, undermining our entire democratic process. As Ronald Reagan once said, we must “Trust but verify.”

Please cover the issue of verified voting until such time as the will of the People can once again be ascertained beyond reasonable doubt.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:01 PM
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16. AllllRight!
And this is not the last of it. Hell, we're just getting warmed up.

As I read through this thread, I was once more refreshed to see that some of M$M hasn't thrown in the towel, and that there are some new names here who are stepping up to bat.

It's late, too late to effect Nightline's show tonight, but they will get an email from me, with the idea that this is just the first of many more reports influenced by DU et al.

As the court cases move forward, the massive data folks have obtained gets organized, and special election commissions like the one in NC, do their thing, and our congress people introduce their bills, we will see many more such reports, each one inching further toward our goal of making elections free and fair.



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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:18 PM
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17. The Fifth Estate, an investigative documentary program on the
Edited on Wed Jan-19-05 11:23 PM by Bigleaf
CBC network in Canada has a great show a week from tonight at 9:00 p.m. I can't post any new topics being a newbie so I thought I'd place it here. Any Canadians, Americans living near the Canadian border or those who have Canadian satellite TV like myself (I have to get the real news somewhere) should check it out. I saw the preview tonight and it looks like a great show. Franken was interviewed along with Coulter etc.

Here is the link http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/

STICKS AND STONES

Wednesday January 26, 2005 at 9p.m. on CBC-TV

The United States is in the midst of a very un-civil war. It's a war of words that's pitting conservative against liberal, that's already divided the country into red and blue. The new gladiators are commentators like Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter and their forum is the television studios of networks like Fox. It's loud, it's raucous, but does it have anything to do with the truth?

Also, please if you go to the link above, check out "The Unauthorized biography of Dick Cheney" web feature at the bottom of the page. I did not see this show but would love to get a copy.

Aslo check out the other Web feature "War Without Borders" about Al Queda. I saw this show and it was very good.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 12:51 AM
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18. Here's a letter I sent Ted Koppel BEFORE tonight's broadcast ...
... and I spoke with his senior producer by phone to make sure they knew it was coming. I told the producer what I said in the letter. They could begin to behave like competent, responsible patriotic American journalists or they could keep being crack whores for Karl Rove (well, I was a bit more polite.) So here's my letter: (I've posted it on other DU Nightline-related threads also, but this looks like another good place to post it.)
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To Ted Koppel:

Given how very dismissive ABC has been so far in its coverage of the 2004 election theft, I am concerned about how you will present the story tonight. Your promo for tonight's program already suggests that you will once again be dismissive. You do this at your own peril. According to Annenberg, approximately 30% of the American people now believe the 2004 election was stolen. That's a 50% increase in the number of people who hold that belief in just the past six weeks.

You only show your own uninformed, complacent, incredulous or perhaps (in the eyes of many Americans) co-conspiratorial position if you dismiss the evidence for the 2004 election theft. You must know by now that -- even though the corporate media is still holding back from releasing the full exit poll data (for what useful reason escapes us) -- the complete final national exit poll data (not the incomplete early "leaked" data your promo refers to) have already been released on-line by a New Zealand media organization who bought the complete data before Mitofsky stopped responding to requests for it. Those data have been analyzed and those analyses are now widely available. Maybe that's why 100 million Americans believe the election was stolen.

You must also know that the analyses of Dr. Steven Freeman of the University of Pennsylvania are based on the final exit poll data available to all of us directly off CNN at midnight on election day -- once again not the early data leaked on the Internet that your promo refers to. Dr. Freeman's analysis indicates that someone is twice as likely to win PowerBall with a single ticket than that the discrepency between the exit polls and the "reported" vote in just three states -- OH, FL and PA -- occurred by chance. Other analysts -- again using the complete state-level exit poll data (available on CNN at midnight on election night) put the likelihood that the discrepencies between the final exit polls and the "reported" vote in 16 states occurred by chance at 13.5 trillion to one.

Finally, another analysis by Dr. Freeman demonstrates the election theft without using exit poll data. Simply put, Freeman looked at people who voted in 2004 and distributed them according to their self-reported 2000 voting status and their 2004 voting decision within three categories:

1) 2000 Gore or Bush voters who voted for Kerry or Bush in 2004,
2) 2000 3rd party voters who voted in 2004 for Kerry or Bush, and
3) New voters in 2004.

These categories should include all voters for Kerry or Bush in 2004. With this analysis, Freeman has shown that approximately 4.3 million votes were switched from Kerry to Bush between the time the votes were cast and the time the votes were counted. Here's the table from one of the appendices to Dr. Freeman's paper (which is attached):

(Guys, I can't get the Freeman table to line up right in this post. I basically used a simplified version of Freeman's table 2.2 on page 24 in the appendix from his updated paper. Wish I could get it to line up because it is a KILLER table. Here's a link to the full paper and appendix: http://truthout.org/unexplainedexitpoll.pdf )

Suffice it to say, if Nightline does not include Dr. Freeman or another of the many reputable researchers whose work has documented the 2004 election theft in your broadcast tonight, your presentation will be incomplete. Further, if your program once again makes light of or dismisses the overwhelming evidence for the 2004 election theft, you will cement your status as a co-conspirator in this unprecedented rape of democracy.

Of course, ABC could always be the first network to release the complete exit poll data and reports to the American public. If you don't, what do you know and when did you know it? And one more question: just what are you knowingly hiding?

Assuredly, (me)

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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 01:20 AM
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21. Great letter Fly -eom
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 01:01 AM
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19. I just let carrot-top have both barrels
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 01:07 AM
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20. Done! n/t
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 03:44 AM
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22. kick for the Left Coast!
Tell Ted to keep this up. He just scratched the surface.

We need verified voting and this cannot be denied!

Good night people. zzzzz
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 11:24 AM
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23. Kick for democracy!!
:kick:
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 01:50 PM
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24. done
I don't think I've ever seen a more biased hatchet job on MSM. A New Low. Koppel and the producers should be ashamed.
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