ON A VERY DARK DAY, A PROPHETIC INSIGHT....

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

http://www.jfklancer.com/Garrison4.html

The prophecy of Jim Garrison
Jim Garrison was District Attorney for New Orleans who put local businessman Clay Bertrand on trial in connection with the assassination of John F. Kennedy
Jim Garrison's Interview with Playboy, part 3
Excerpt from the October 1967 Playboy interview:



What worries me deeply, and I have seen it exemplified in this case, is that we in America are in great danger of slowly evolving into a proto-fascist state. It will be a different kind of fascist state from the one of the Germans evolved; theirs grew out of depression and promised bread and work, while ours, curiously enough, seems to be emerging from prosperity. But in the final analysis, it's based on power and on the inability to put human goals and human conscience above the dictates of the state. Its origins can be traced in the tremendous war machine we've built since 1945, the "military-industrial complex" that Eisenhower vainly warned us about, which now dominates every aspect of our life. The power of the states and Congress has gradually been abandoned to the Executive Department, because of war conditions; and we've seen the creation of an arrogant, swollen bureaucratic complex totally unfettered by the checks and balances of the Constitution.

In a very real and terrifying sense, our Government is the CIA and the Pentagon, with Congress reduced to a debating society. Of course, you can't spot this trend to fascism by casually looking around. You can't look for such familiar signs as the swastika, because they won't be there. We won't build Dachaus and Auschwitzes; the clever manipulation of the mass media is creating a concentration camp of the mind that promises to be far more effective in keeping the populace in line. We're not going to wake up one morning and suddenly find ourselves in gray uniforms goose-stepping off to work. But this isn't the test. The test is: What happens to the individual who dissents? In Nazi Germany, he was physically destroyed; here, the process is more subtle, but the end results can be the same.

I've learned enough about the machinations of the CIA in the past year to know that this is no longer the dreamworld America I once believed in. The imperatives of the population explosion, which almost inevitably will lessen our belief in the sanctity of the individual human life, combined with the awesome power of the CIA and the defense establishment, seem destined to seal the fate of the America I knew as a child and bring us into a new Orwellian world where the citizen exists for the state and where raw power justifies any and every immoral act. I've always had a kind of knee-jerk trust in my Government's basic integrity, whatever political blunders it may make. But I've come to realize that in Washington, deceiving and manipulating the public are viewed by some as the natural prerogatives of office. Huey Long once said, "Fascism will come to America in the name of anti-fascism." I'm afraid, based on my own experience, that fascism will come to America in the name of national security.

[EFerrari]

1. Garrison was more right than even he knew. And that should be

"perceived prosperity" because last time I looked, the middle class was disappearing.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

3. This part blew me away.:

Huey Long once said, "Fascism will come to America in the name of anti-fascism." I'm afraid, based on my own experience, that fascism will come to America in the name of national security.

[EFerrari]

9. I know. (And how are you today, Mr. Ashcroft?) n/t

[smartvoter]

28. Same here. nt

[liberal N proud]

2. Garrison must have been a profit:

Jim Garrison 1967: "slowly evolving into a proto-fascist state"

We are there NOW!

[Kolesar]

4. The "Cold War" w/ Russia was President Truman's fuck up

Truman was an accidental president. I wish the Dems had taken FDR's health into account when selecting a running mate. Not much was ever expected of Truman, except a ticket-balancer.

I can only wonder if Truman had more skill and wisdom if we would not have ended up in a 45 year old Cold War with real proxy wars around the globe. Russia was a weak and battered state. Although they did take the countries of Eastern Europe, that may have been the limit of their reach. They never could develop a far reaching military. Their cargo planes could not let them project to the Middle East. They never got aircraft carriers. Their subs were noisy. Morale sucked in their conscript army.

Truman got rolled by the militarists (like General Patton) who wanted to maintain a huge military that was designed to fight the Third Reich. In the mean while, they kept us all scared to death, and intimidated our representatives into funding a nuclear arms race that did not have to happen.

Think of what we could have done with all that wealth that was squandered on weapons and the Vietnam War. We could have funded humanitarian and population control programs around the world. Asia could have been a comfortable continent with a beyond-subsistance standard of living and a sustainable population growth.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

8. Food for thought. Prescott Bush assisted with Operation Paperclip.

http://www.expage.com/notowar3b

CIA created — President Truman signs the National Security Act of 1947, creating the Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Council.

The CIA is accountable to the president through the NSC — there is no democratic or congressional oversight. Its charter allows the CIA to "perform such other functions and duties… as the National Security Council may from time to time direct." This loophole opens the door to covert action and dirty tricks.

Operation PAPERCLIP – While other American agencies are hunting down Nazi war criminals for arrest, the newly created Central Intelligence Agency (C.I.A) is smuggling them into America, unpunished, for their use against the Soviets. The most important of these is Reinhard Gehlen, Hitler’s master spy who had built up an intelligence network in the Soviet Union. With full U.S. blessing, he creates the "Gehlen Organization," a band of refugee Nazi spies who reactivate their networks in Russia. These include SS intelligence officers Alfred Six and Emil Augsburg (Concentration camp officer), Klaus Barbie (the "Butcher of Lyon"), Otto von Bolschwing (the Holocaust mastermind who worked with Eichmann) and SS Colonel Otto Skorzeny (a personal friend of Hitler’s). The Gehlen Organization supplies the U.S. with its only intelligence on the Soviet Union for the next ten years, serving as a bridge between the abolishment of the OSS and the creation of the CIA. Gehlen and his cohorts inflates Soviet military capabilities at a time when Russia is still rebuilding its devastated society, in order to inflate his own importance to the Americans (who might otherwise punish them). In 1948, Gehlen almost convinces the Americans that war is imminent, and the West should make a preemptive strike. In the 50s he produces a fictitious "missile gap."

[Mist]

13. I think Truman was rolled by the corporations

After the big boost they got from the war, the corporations, especially the defense contractors, wanted to keep the money coming in. I believe it was the then-chairman of General Electric who said, in 1947, "America must be run as a permanent wartime economy."

[mopinko]

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[jimshoes]

5. Garrison knew who the players were

all the way back in 67. He saw it coming because he tried to expose a small part of it during the Clay Shaw trial. His adversaries began to systematically assassinate his character right from the beginning. This is a craft they have honed to perfection in recent years.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

7. I honestly believe, until people really understand what Garrison

is saying here, and see the truth of our government not being within our control (since before I was born 53 years ago), real change can never take place.

[EFerrari]

10. Oh, I don't know. Nothing a few unintended consequences

can't fix. Look at Watergate.

I feel hopeful today, especially watching MendacityCentral making itself into pretzels trying to out Queen the Queen. It won't do what they want it to do, impress or confer legitimacy.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

11. Watergate was just a temporary setback. After that we had

Iran-Contra, and some of those players are deeply entrenched with "The Queen".

From Garrison: "You can't look for such familiar signs as the swastika, because they won't be there. We won't build Dachaus and Auschwitzes; the clever manipulation of the mass media is creating a concentration camp of the mind that promises to be far more effective in keeping the populace in line."

There are going to be millions upon millions of Americans today totally appalled by this avarice. The ones that still haven't found jobs, the ones who can't put food on the table, the ones whose loved ones are off in Iraq, the ones who have a strong moral compass who smell through the perfume covering the bullshit, and yet I believe so, so many of them feel isolated in their beliefs because of that "concentration camp of the mind".

Until we can breakdown those barriers, Americans who might be very much awake, will not know that they are definitely not alone.

[EFerrari]

12. Good points. Yes, the Contragate guys still have their claws

in our till. Death squads Negroponte -- one day I tracked a whole ugly group of them all over the B* administration.

The internet(s), though, is having a big impact on the efficacy of MSM and the ease with which the propaganda rolls out.

Some of us should be figuring out how they'll try to shut it down because to stay in power, they have to.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

14. In the neo-con's working papers "Rebuilding America's Defenses"

They clearly state that they want a cyberspace force also an outerspace force. I know money was budgeted for the outerspace force. Maybe allocated for the cyberspace force too?

Negroponte is back in action, and death squads ala El Salvador are being considered in Iraq.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6802629/site/newsweek

[EFerrari]

15. Yes, I saw that. My family is from El Salvador. The people

there still remember. They did not mourn the Gipper.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

17. Tears here. I am mortified at what has been done in "my name" by these

maniacs that have done that to your country, and other countries around the globe. I am so deeply sorry.

[EFerrari]

19. Me, too. Reagan did a thorough job of exporting torture and death.

So, given that medical science has kept the old gang around, this latest shouldn't really have surprised us, should it?

"Not in my name" is distributing window signs and stickers that are red with a big "NO" in the foreground. In the background in tiny type are the list of crimes. They run the length of the sign. And at the bottom it says, "not my president".

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

23. I'm going to have to get one for my car. Thank you. :) n/t

[Village Idiot]

18. Why would they NEED the swastika?

They are using the CROSS right now in much the same way...a rallying point for the fundie-fascists, and a device to falsely convey legitimacy to the government of Idiot Boy...

[EFerrari]

21. Crusader Idiot Boy n/t

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

22. Isn't the Sociopath now on a personal crusade to get rid of crosses with

his fundies? I thought I just heard that there is a movement to take them down throughout the country?

When I hear ** refer to his talking to his higher father, I don't think he's talking about a god most people recognize.

[bobbieinok]

45. taking down the crosses was reported on some of the Moon threads

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

46. I knew I saw it somewhere. Thank you. :) n/t

[KansDem]

36. The swastika is a kind of cross..

The swastika symbol has been used for thousands of years among practically every group of humans on the planet. It was known to Germanic tribes as the "Cross of Thor", and it is interesting that the Nazis did not use that term, which is consistent with German history, but instead preferred to "steal" the Indian term "swastika". As the "Cross of Thor", the symbol was even brought to England by Scandinavian settlers in Lincolnshire and Yorkshire, long before Hitler.

(more)
http://www.hostultra.com/~Exidor/Swastika/Swastika.html

Ironic that whether it's that cross or this cross, a cross nevertheless plays a prominent role in defining the moment...

[donkeyotay]

24. Garrison got that language was a key in fighting the new fascism

"the clever manipulation of the mass media is creating a concentration camp of the mind..."

So many lost battles that it's gotten hard to care about one more, BUT Garrison's assessment of the media problem was much more acurate and powerful than the current meme that's been installed, even here, which is MSM. The whole point is that the media ISN'T mainstream. It's a propaganda machine. It has an agenda against the people or the mainstream.

I loved that quote and this one too:

"In a very real and terrifying sense, our Government is the CIA and the Pentagon, with Congress reduced to a debating society."

And not a very good one at that...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

41. Thank you for highlighting those stunning statements. And

you're right about the Congress.

[tngledwebb]

6. If it looks walks and quacks like a duck...

it must be another crazy internet conspiracy theory! NYT etc, you going to write about this one? Nah, bet you won't touch this one with a 10ft exit poll.

That's OK, though, a few years ago I too was drinking the MSM kool-aid.

[mordarlar]

20. I just had horrible chills reading this : / n/t

[Shalom]

25. Linkage from Killing JFK to 9/11 Scam to Election Fraud...

Thanks for pointing out this absolutely essential background to what we are witnessing: the election fraud this "dark day" is just a new chapter in a very dark history.

As you know, Garrison was one of the mine "canaries" who tried to alert Americans to the fact that their President, John F. Kennedy, had been excecuted by his own government.

Since that day, we have been under the control of proto-fascists, as Garrison warned.

Just as Garrison helped point out the "unbelievable" government collusion in excecuting our President in 1963, researchers have finally found the key to understanding how the 9/11 attacks were able to proceed at will. If you download the chapter from Mike Ruppert's book "Crossing the Rubicon" (go to the link below, and select "Excerpt"), it becomes crystal clear: up to 5 "wargames" were in process on the morning of 9/11, which included "injects" into FAA screens that simulated hijacked airliners. This created paralysis from the FAA and NORAD in responding to the "real" hijackings, allowing the attacks to succeed, and ushering in the reign of George Walker Bushitler, which has continue to the present day, and has led to his second coronation.

It's all in front of us, if we only have the courage to see it.


http://www.newsociety.com/bookid/3875

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

31. Thank you Shalom for posting this link. Ruppert's book has

been given to Eliot Spitzer, the NY Attorney General, along with a tome of other evidence about the Sociopath and his Lunatics being behind 9/11. His office accepted it publically.

Spitzer has decided to throw his hat into the ring to run for Governor. Will he have the guts of Jim Garrison persue this mass murder that took place in his state?

The trump card is that on the eve of the GOP convention in NY, Zogby took a poll. 66% of the NYers polled wanted Spitzer to investigate. I pray to the Universe that he embraces that.

I would also like to add that there is an excellent DVD, JFKII: The Bush Connection. For subscribers of Prisonplanet.tv, it is available to view online. This video discusses Papa Bush and his connection to JFKs assassination, and there is credible documentation.

[Shalom]

33. Thanks "Ommm" from "ShalOm" !

(Since you must know that "Om" and "Shalom" both mean peace...)

The info on Spitzer is amazing, very good news.

What we need to propel this to the top is to get the 9/11 victims behind it: can you imagine how powerful it would be if they became convinced of government dirty dealings behind the murder of their loved ones ? Remember that Clinton was impeached because of an investigation into whether Paul Jones's rights had been infringed upon. Doesn't it merit an investigation to discover if the "right to live" of 3,000 Americans was "infringed upon" on September 11 ?

While we must do all we can to unseat Bush by demonstrating how he has stolen the 2004 election, we must proceed on a parallel path in uncovering the dirty deeds of the entire Bushiter dynasty: Prescott Bush (Nazi supporter), George Bush Sr. (as you indicate, plus many other dastardly deeds such as Iran Contra), and George Walker Bushitler (with his own rap sheet).

Peace.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

37. As you saw in the link you provided

there are are 9/11 familes and victims behind it. Kyle Hence of Unanswered Questions has been working hand in hand with many of them.

Disturbingly, a lawsuit filed by attorney Stanley Hilton (he used to work for Bob Dole) in behalf of 100s of 9/11 familes and victims against Bush was just thrown out of court. For reasons that are quite curious to me. (BTW..Hilton's offices have been broken into twice!)

Stanley Hilton Preparing Appeal To The Ninth Circuit Appellate Court

1/9/2005 Abel Ashes (Hull Simmons)

The $7 billion federal class action lawsuit against top Bush Administration officials for, among other things, their roles in engineering and orchestrating the 911 attacks has been dismissed by Judge Illston. Attorney for the plaintiffs, Stanley Hilton is preparing an appeal to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and hopes to reverse the judge's ruling.

Mr. Hilton will be making the fifteen page ruling dismissing the suit available to the public. As soon as SueTheTerrorists.Net webmaster, Abel Ashes (Hull Simmons) receives the document it will be online for all to read and understand the judge's given reasons for dismissing the suit.

Mr. Ashes spoke with Stanley Hilton earlier today and Mr. Hilton informed him that the judge's ruling was based on the "Doctrine of Sovereign Immunity". In other words, the suit was not dismissed because of lack of evidence, but rather because the judge reasoned that U.S. Citizens do not have the right to hold a sitting President accountable for anything, even if the charges include premeditated mass murder and premeditated acts of high treason. Mr. Hilton and his plaintiffs disagree and so are filing an appeal.

continued here:
http://suetheterrorists.net/


Peace right back at you! :)

[Shalom]

34. Link to Your Citation of NY Attorney General getting 9/11 Appeal...

http://www.justicefor911.org/press.php#2

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

35. Thank you ShalOM from Ommmmmmm! Here is a link to the Zogby Poll!

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20040830120349841

[NationalEnquirer]

26. WHOAH! Scary as hell! n/t

[bleever]

27. Kick. Thanks.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

38. Your welcome and thanks for kicking! :) n/t

[T Town Jake]

29. Garrison was a crank and publicity hound...

...who abused the powers of his office to prosecute an innocent man who had about as much to do with the Kennedy assassination as my kitty cat did. So I put very little stock in anything he might have mumbled to a magazine once upon a time.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

32. You can kill the messenger, but that message is loud and clear and true.

[FogerRox]

40. And now his work has been expanded on--Garrison may have been more right t

than most thought--I think you are wrong-- dead wrong.
And to the Mix: Heincke's IIRC recent book---

[emlev]

30. kick

[Stand and Fight]

39. Kick...

Big brother is watching.


:kick:

:smoke:

[4democracy]

42. kick

[Shalom]

43. KICK to the top of the charts!

[lonestarnot]

44. Will come? Is already here.

[Pooka Fey]

47. Oh. My. God.

Nominated for the home page.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

50. Thank you Pooka. :) n/t

[Wilms]

48. Great One.

OSO, you'll dig this essay dzika found.

<http://peaceinspace.blogs.com/peaceinspaceorg/2005/01/analysis_the_ma.html>

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

49. Thank you Wilms for sharing this interesting assessment of our

pResident Sociopath. Unfortunately I believe it lets him off the hook. It leads one to believe that he is fighting the forces of dark and light within himself, when I honestly believe that he is totally cognizant of the havoc he creates. He is a predator, fully aware of the evilness of his doing, and couldn't give a damn about it. He has no value for the sanctity of life.

I believe that most of his supporters fit into 4 broad categories. The ones who are as psychotic as he is, and believe that it is their destiny to share in world domination. The second group are those of enablers. People who are so charmed? and want the best for him that they will support him as a battered spouse will support their batterer. The third group IMHO are those that are still suffering from post-traumatic stress syndrome, and in their need for a protector for Bush's created bogeymen, turn toward what they perceived to be a father figure right after 9/11. The fourth broader group, perhaps the saddest of all (for the future of humanity), are those who are too damned stupid to think for themselves. The ones who have always been Republicans (without a clue as to what that is), brainwashed fundies, bigots, and worse, the women who are charmed by what they consider his good looks. Ted Bundy had a field day with those...

So there are three groups that we can work with. The first group of course is hopeless, and they should be committed for life. But for the last three there is hope. It's just being able to communicate to them, and show with irrefutable proof that Bush should be isolated from society, key thrown away.
:hi:

[LeahD]

51. kick n/t