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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:25 PM
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Conyers Letter to Petro (OH Attorney Gen)
I have been given permission from Conyers office to post this:

Mr conyers is sending out these two letters.  feel free to use and disseminate.

January 20, 2005

The Hon. Jim Petro
Attorney General
State of Ohio
State Office Tower
30 E. Broad St, 17th Floor
Columbus, OH 43215

Dear Attorney General Petro:

        I write to express my concern regarding your recent request to sanction those attorneys who brought a legal challenge to last year's presidential election in Ohio.  In particular, I am concerned that by seeking official censure and fines, you are engaged in a selective and partisan misuse of your legal authority.  As eager as many disgruntled voters are to have a court of law finally assess the merits of the challenge actions, I have serious doubts about the validity of the sanctions case your office is pursuing.

        As an initial matter, one would be hard pressed to see how the legal challenges brought under the Ohio election challenge statute were "frivolous."  First off, it is widely known that the Ohio presidential election was literally riddled with irregularities and improprieties, many of which are set forth in the 102 page report issued by the House Judiciary Committee Democratic Staff.  <http://www.house.gov>  As a matter of fact, the problems were so great that Congress was forced to debate the first challenge to an entire state's slate of electors since the federal Electoral Count law was enacted in 1877.  In short, there is more than an abundant record raising serious, substantive questions about the Ohio presidential election.

        It is also noteworthy that the Ohio Secretary of State intentionally delayed certifying the vote, thereby insuring that the recount could not be completed by the date the electoral college met on December 13.  The Ohio Secretary State also refused to respond to numerous questions regarding the irregularities submitted to him by several members of the House Judiciary Committee, has refused to respond to a single concern set forth in the Judiciary Report, and also sought a protective order to avoid any discovery related to the legal challenges.  In short, Ohio election officials have compounded public doubt concerning the election by refusing to provide any sort of accountability and acting in almost every respect as if they have "something to hide."

        Given this context, and to help assure the public that you are not selectively pursuing sanctions in these cases for partisan reasons, I would respectfully request that you provide the House Judiciary Committee and the public with an itemization of all sanctions cases brought and considered by your office since January, 2003.  In addition, I would ask that you provide to us and make public an itemization of cases you have considered and pursued under Ohio's campaign and election laws since January 2003.  Finally, I would like to receive a an estimate of the costs you would expect to expend of Ohio taxpayer funds to pursue the sanction case you are seeking against Mr. Fitrakis, Susan Truitt, Cliff Arnebeck, and Peter Peckowsky.

        If you believe the election challenge case should not have been brought, I would suggest the more appropriate course of actions may be revisiting the law with the Ohio legislature, rather than pursuing far-fetched sanction cases which on their face would appear to be overtly partisan in nature.

        I would appreciate it if you would respond to me though my Judiciary Committee staff, Perry Apelbaum and Ted Kalo, 2142 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, D.C. 20515 (tel. 202-225-6504, fax 202-225-4423) by no later than January 27.  Thank you.


Sincerely,


John Conyers, Jr.

Ranking Member

House Judiciary Committee

cc:     Hon. F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr.
        Chairman, House Committee on the Judiciary

        Supreme Court, State of Ohio

        Ohio Bar Associatiion

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January 20, 2005

Warren Mitofsky
Mitofsky International
1776 Broadway - Suite 1708
New York, NY 10019

Larry Rosin
President
Edison Media Research
6 W. Cliff St.
Somerville, NJ 08876

Dear Mr. Mitofsky and Mr. Rosin:

        I have reviewed the internal report you issued yesterday concerning your exit polling in the 2004 election, and, unfortunately, it has not caused my concerns and questions regarding the significant discrepancies between your polling data and the final electoral results to diminish.

        In particular, I would note that there are a number of concerns with the explanations you posited in your internal report that  do not credibly account for the unprecedented five point differential between your exit polls and the reported results.  As I am sure you know, Professor Steven Freeman of the University of Pennsylvania has determined that such a differential was of a less than 1 in a 1000 likelihood -  virtually impossible as a statistical matter. 

        To be frank, blaming such factors as distant restrictions on polling places, weather conditions, the age of exit poll workers, and the fact that multiple precincts were contained at the same polling place, as your report does, does not come close to explaining why the exit polls overstated support for the Kerry/Edwards ticket in 26 states and support for the Bush/Cheney ticket in only 4 states.  Many of the factors you point to appear to merely be random characteristics of the election and your exit polling, rather than quantifiable and justifiable explanations.  Nor can I believe that the massive discrepancies can credibly be written off to eagerness of Kerry voters to participate in the exit polls.

        As a result, I would like to reiterate my request to receive the actual raw exit poll data that you obtained.  I would also like to obtain copies of all internal deliberations, memos and other materials of your employees and consultants concerning or seeking to explain the discrepancies.   To the extent you have concerns regarding releasing propriety information, I am willing to work with you to either receive this information on a confidential basis, or alternatively to bring in a neutral, outside expert to review these materials.

        The stakes for our democracy are simply too high for us to allow this matter to pass without a serious and substantive review of the exit poll data.  While the election is over, there is significant bipartisan sentiment in Congress and around the nation for voting reform.  A complete and full release of the exit poll information will therefore not only help to resolve lingering doubts regarding irregularities in the 2004 election, it will also go a long way towards helping Congress  understand how to best craft these reforms.  I am hopeful that the media companies that contract for your services will also understand and support the importance of providing full, complete, and transparent information in this matter.

        I would appreciate your responding to my office through my Judiciary Committee staff, Perry Apelbaum and Ted Kalo, 2142 Rayburn House Office Building (tel. 202-225-6504, fax 202-225-4423), by January 27th.  Thank you.

Sincerely,


John Conyers, Jr.

Ranking Member

House Judiciary Committee

cc:     Hon. F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr.
        Chairman, House Judiciary Committee

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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:33 PM
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1. Oh GOD how I love this man! Let me shout it out in front of everyone!!!
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:33 PM
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2. Outstanding!
Conyers is a true patriot!!!

Thank you Mr. Conyers!!!!!1
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:26 PM
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22. He is AWESOME. What a PATRIOT John Conyers is!
I wish he was from MY state!
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:34 PM
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3. Conyers, you kick ass!
I love this guy. We need to show him some seriuos letter writing love.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:35 PM
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4. thank you Mr. Conyers.
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:36 PM
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5. oh my gawd, CONYER'S ROCKS!!! I LOVE THIS GUY
where the heck has this bulldog been? Was he a dynamo prior to the election fraud 04 issue? I'm thinking about sending an actual non e letter to him. Just to thank him for giving us hope.
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:53 PM
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29. I POSTED these 2 letters to 1 Yahoo board & sent to 25 people
Hey folks................get these letter sent round the world!!!!
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:38 PM
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6. Kick!! n/t
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:45 PM
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7. One lone flame in the
cave of what used to be a democracy. GOD BLESS JOHN CONYERS.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:48 PM
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8. Boxer/Conyers in '08
he's not alone.
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super simian Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:48 PM
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9. John Conyers Rocks My World!
This was a superb treat for an otherwise totally depressing day!!!
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
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Last Lemming Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 05:57 PM
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10. Can we send him flowers?
Or <insert stupid joke about Thanksgiving Turkeys here>

So this is what a heroic political act looks like--it doesn't even make the evening news.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:05 PM
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11. Nothing cheers me like a coupla Conyers letters!!!!
"As a matter of fact, the problems were so great that Congress was forced to debate the first challenge to an entire state's slate of electors since the federal Electoral Count law was enacted in 1877."

ZING!!!

Thanks, mod mom for bringing this to us.

As for flowers.... he is already being sent flowers, along with Sen. Boxer and all of the House Reps. who voted to challenge the Ohio electors. It was done here by DUers, and I believe they are to be delivered to DC offices Monday? Red, white & blue floral arrangements....

But a letter or email to him is certainly in order!
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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:05 PM
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12. I only wish he had subpoena power in all this.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:08 PM
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14. He is calling for Congressional hearings which would have subpoena power
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darkworkz Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:46 PM
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19. well then, help him out. ;-)
You have to remember that you send these letters to both 'pugs and Dem's. Flood the opposition just a hard as your guys. That way you've created a paper trail that they can't deny and opens them up for losses in the elections.

The 4 members I suggest getting this letter are:
Hon. F. James Sensenbrenner, Jr.
Hon. Henry J. Hyde
Hon. John Conyers, Jr.
Hon. Melvin L. Watt
addresses for all can be found here: http://judiciary.house.gov/CommitteeMembership.aspx

Letter below dotted line
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Dear Chairman Sensenbrenner,

I have recently learned about Representative John Conyers request to hold full committee hearings on the election results from the State of Ohio. I am writing to show my support and interest this matter. I am deeply interested in having the full committee investigate these issues:

Unusual Results in multiple counties
Over votes which are statistically impossible
Counting irregularities in multiple counties
Spoiled ballots
Provisional ballots not properly dealt with under the laws of the State of Ohio.
Anomalies with touch screen voting equipment

This is a short list of items I would like the committee to investigate.

Representative Sensenbrenner, I know you are as interested as I in resolving these issues for the good of our election system and the full confidence of the American people in our franchise. It is our mutual appreciation of our representative democracy that I make this request and I am sure that you will do all that is in your power as Chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary to see this matter through to its proper conclusion.

Respectfully,
(sign name)
Citizen of the State of (insert State) in these United State of America

CC: (insert other HR members that you've CC'd)
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:08 PM
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13. I just let his aide know that we at DU think he (Conyers) rocks and
if he ever needs at large and quick response, we at DU are here and ready to assist him!
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:10 PM
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15. Thanks again, mod mom, for letting him know we are here
at the ready to do our patriotic duty and assist him, as he has done his!
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Number_6 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:23 PM
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16. Ohio judicio-Mafia: Unwise move
I especially liked the swift response to the sanction threat. When
Conyers and staff ask questions, Ohio Rethugs do not answer. Their
silence is eloquent. Looks like Petro's bulldogging was supposed to supplement Blackwell's silence, Executive Privilege or what-have-you in that 2-bit legal fortress. Now, Petro...respond...or not....
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:41 PM
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17. I love him! I love him! I love him!!!!!!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:46 PM
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18. Conyers office requests a media blast on these letter. I forwarded it
to some of my contacts, but never did a blast. anyone willing to help?
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Terre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:04 PM
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21. I've never done a Media Blast either, but . . .
DU'er tommcintyre posted this thread regarding letters for Media Blasting:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x7404

The links in his thread take you to a page that has a pre-filled in letter and the Subject (depending on the letter/link) is already completed. You may be able to modify it? Not sure since I've never tried it before.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 06:58 PM
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20. Here's a media blaster
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:29 PM
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23. Fantastic! How pathetic that he's lone voice among our 'representatives'
Edited on Thu Jan-20-05 07:30 PM by JudyM
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:33 PM
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24. The fight isn't over
I truly believe that the fight isn't over. When the truth gets out the majority of Americans will be outraged and Congress will have no choice but to impeach Bu$h. Nixon wasn't popular at the start of his 2nd term and we all know how that turned out.

The trouble will be getting the word out (thank you Olberman, Stewart, and AAR).
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:40 PM
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25. It should also be pointed out that Mr. Petro...
looks to be a very partisan, wealthy, right-winger, with a lot of state officials beholden to his largesse. Seems like he has a deep conflict of interest in bringing these kinds of charges against Arnebeck, et al. Here are some entries that appear on the "Citizens for Petro" website:

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http://www.jimpetro.com/show_event.asp?event_id=17&orig...
8/18/2004

PETRO CONTINUES EFFORT TO SUPPORT REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES, PLEDGES TO RAISE $1 MILLION

Jim Petro recently sent a letter to Republican leadership highlighting his efforts on behalf of Republican candidates around the state and pledged to work to raise over $1 million for their efforts by Election Day. "I make this commitment because I believe this is the most important election in generations, one that begs for leadership and requires us to put personal ambitions aside and focus on the good of the Republican Party as a whole" Petro wrote. In outlining his efforts on behalf of the party, Petro continued "since the commencement of the 2004 campaigns, I have traveled Ohio to support candidates at all levels. I have hosted or appeared at 38 fundraisers for Republican candidates which have raised nearly $500,000; and I have contributed over $80,000 of my own campaign funds in support of county parties, statewide and local candidates."

Since becoming Attorney General, Jim Petro has contributed over $130,000 of his own campaign dollars to candidates at all levels. Each week Petro travels the state to support candidates for local or state office, recently travelling to Fairfield County to support Sheriff Dave Phalen and Lake County to help raise funds for the local county party.



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http://www.jimpetro.com/show_event.asp?event_id=32&orig...

9/21/2004
DAVID GOODMAN FOR FRANKLIN COUNTY COMMISSIONER
<snip>

Additionally, Petro commented on the importance of Franklin County to the election of President Bush. "Franklin County is one of the most important counties in the nation to the hopes of President Bush. If David Goodman wins Franklin County then President Bush wins the election."



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http://www.jimpetro.com/show_event.asp?event_id=23&orig...
8/17/2004
PETRO TRAVELS TO VAN WERT, HARDIN COUNTIES TO SUPPORT FUNDRAISING EFFORTS

In back-to-back weeks Attorney General Jim Petro traveled to Ohio's heartland to support the fundraising efforts of Van Wert and Hardin Counties at their Century Club dinners. Traveling to Van Wert on August 11 and to Hardin County on August 17, Petro helped raised funds that will be intergral to county efforts to support republican candidates, incuding GOTV efforts that will help President Bush. "George Bush never would have won Ohio in 2000 without the strong support of rural countis such as Van Wert and Hardin. I fully support their efforts and will continue to do whatever I can to raise money to assist them." Petro personally contributed $500 to each party. If you would like to contribute money or support efforts in Van Wert and Hardin Counties, the contact information for each is below.


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http://www.jimpetro.com/show_event.asp?event_id=24&orig...

Petro has raised over $100,000 for the Supreme Court races and will be raising more in the future.



I thought justice was supposed to be blind. I guess not in Ohio!

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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:41 PM
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26. Doin The Lords Work!
And thanks to everyone here for doin what you do! I think things are startin to happen!
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:43 PM
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27. John Conyers is a true American hero and patriot. He is simply awesome.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 07:48 PM
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28. Blasted! n/t
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 12:20 AM
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30. kick n/t
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 10:20 AM
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31. Rep John Conyers-TRUE PATRIOT! NT
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davidlynch Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-22-05 06:38 PM
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32. Kick n/t
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