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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 02:40 AM
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Get this...from the BBC regarding Voter Fraud
"US vote 'mostly free and fair'"
"The US elections "mostly met" standards for freedom and fairness, international observers have said.
Observers from the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) said the presidential and congressional elections reflected a "long democratic tradition". They praised the "professionalism and dedication" of state and local officials."

<snip>

So I'm reading along, thinking, well, maybe I have been jumping to conclusions lately.

That is, til I read this in the middle of the article:

"The OSCE sent 92 observers to monitor the electoral process across the United States. The observers found no evidence of fraud or voter suppression However, they were barred by state law from polling places in Washington DC, Florida and Ohio."

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/americas/2004/vote_usa_2004/3987655.stm

Florida and Ohio. Gee, what an odd coincidence.

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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 02:43 AM
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1. Funny how certain STATES of mind are ignored......
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 02:44 AM
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2. How would they "observe" what was happening
inside e-voting machines and opti-scan tabulators anyway? This is INTERNAL stuff.

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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 03:03 AM
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7. They discussed their methodology on TV
It seemed vague and naive compared to the BBV studies, based mostly on glitches or complaints. Very mild stuff like they expect to find nothing in modernized places where they are welcomed and real primitive crap where they are not. Arrogantly unsophisticated in computerized questions. True to the pattern of established advocacy groups that got swindled by this easily comprehended scam in the first place.

There are a lot of wise smart pros I now Know I can sell the Brooklyn Bridge.

Now where IS that lease...
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 02:51 AM
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3. I'll bet the "observers" were relieved not to have to bear witness
in the swing states. Ignorance is bliss...and politically expedient.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 03:00 AM
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4. Remember that the BBC was taken over last year.
Remember when they were forced to apologize over....the outing of the whistleblower who killed himself or something??? And the head guy resigned (which our head guy will never do because he is incapable of admitting he is wrong)?

BBC has been neutered.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 03:02 AM
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5. Does the author not understand the importance of that statement?
It should have been the f'ing headline.
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 03:03 AM
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6. EXACTLY!!!!!!!!! n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 04:38 AM
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8. largest Freedom of Information action in history
From Amy Goodman website --Democracy Now-

"http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/05/1521207"

Black Box Voting Seeks Electronic Voting Records
In election news, the group Black Box Voting has announced plans to conduct the largest Freedom of Information action in history in order to monitor how effective electronic voting machines worked on election day. The group has previously warned that the machines could be programmed in ways to alter the actual voting results. The group is filing 3,000 freedom of information requests from individual counties and townships that used the electronic voting machines. They are seeking to obtain internal computer logs and other documents.
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