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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 11:20 PM
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Johnny On The Spot Does It Again !!!
Hes a Pit Bull


http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/05/01/ale05019.html


Dear Mr. Mitofsky and Mr. Rosin:

I have reviewed the internal report you issued yesterday concerning your exit polling in the 2004 election, and, unfortunately, it has not caused my concerns and questions regarding the significant discrepancies between your polling data and the final electoral results to diminish.

In particular, I would note that there are a number of concerns with the explanations you posited in your internal report that do not credibly account for the unprecedented five point differential between your exit polls and the reported results. As I am sure you know, Professor Steven Freeman of the University of Pennsylvania has determined that such a differential was of a less than 1 in a 1000 likelihood - virtually impossible as a statistical matter.

To be frank, blaming such factors as distant restrictions on polling places, weather conditions, the age of exit poll workers, and the fact that multiple precincts were contained at the same polling place, as your report does, does not come close to explaining why the exit polls overstated support for the Kerry/Edwards ticket in 26 states and support for the Bush/Cheney ticket in only 4 states. Many of the factors you point to appear to merely be random characteristics of the election and your exit polling, rather than quantifiable and justifiable explanations. Nor can I believe that the massive discrepancies can credibly be written off to eagerness of Kerry voters to participate in the exit polls.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 11:30 PM
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1. go go go Conyers, You are so great!!!
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 11:32 PM
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2. Go John!!!!!!
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KatieB Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 11:35 PM
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3. Go John!
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 11:37 PM
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4. Love to Conyers!
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 11:37 PM
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5. What a dynamo! Even I'm surprised!
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 11:42 PM
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6. Isn't he minimizing what Freeman had to say?
I thought Freeman calculated that the likelihood that the discrepancy between the exit polls and the "reported" vote in just three states __ OH, FL, and PA -- occurred by chance was on the order of 250 million to one. I'll re-read Freeman tomorrow but TIA has also calculated that the odds that the discrepancies in just 16 states would have occurred by chance at 13.5 trillion to one. Those both sound much more like "impossibilities" to me than one in 1,000.

Anyone else read Freeman more recently than me? His papers are among our strongest persuaders out there, so I sure want them quoted accurately. Maybe Freeman also calculated the national sample deviation separately -- I just don't remember that stat.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 11:47 PM
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7. Awesome! click it and read the end... "the stakes are too high.."
its like saying.. dont make me get a supeona!
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icehenge Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 12:02 AM
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8. I'm thinking there is more behind Conyers then we suspect
He wants this investigation! Go John Conyers O8)
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