Bush got 51% of the vote ?

[kentuck]

That's right! He did not win by a landslide. It was a closer election than people are led to believe. If the Democrats had gotten 2% more of the vote, Kerry would be President. That is not an impossibility.

Where would they have picked up those votes? I just heard that Bush won 65% of the vote of white women where in 2000, he won only 45%. There are a lot of places Democrats lost votes, not just on the "moral" issues. That doesn't mean that "moral" issues are not a problem. They obviously are. But it is not as obvious as some might think.

But there is no rational reason for the gloom, despair, and misery. It is not the end of the world. This was a very close election. We need to find where we are losing votes and correct it. Bush won a mandate only when comapred to his selection of 2000.

[Harlan James]

1. Bush got 65% of white female vote to our 45%?

Wow. So they hacked that, too.

[shoelace414]

2. If Kerry got 160K more votes in Ohio

he would be president-elect.

so I guess that means Bush won by 160K out of 100Million

[SHRED]

3. This map shows no "political capital" at all

http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/

[lizzieforkerry]

4. In all of that blue and purple, my county

is bright red. Excuse me, I have to go throw up, or move

[Horushawk]

7. does not surprise me

the areas with the higher population has more intelligence then the rural areas -- but we knew that already

[tngledwebb]

5. Beggars belief.

How many ways must our intelligence be insulted? 65% of white women up 45% from 2000- we are to believe white women the most ill-informed and gullible group in the electorate? They probably voted 20% more in FAVOR of Kerry.

Never mind the 'morality issue'- it's just officially approved CW/CT spin.

Repeat: The only reason Kerry lost is: vote fraud and theft, sanctioned and approved by corporate media.

[rodeodance]

9. most of red is land mass.

while the blue is primarily indicated by denscer population centers.
The red hits your senibilites when flashed up on the screen but it is deceptive---which is the intent of right wing Tv.
Even the map above which deliniates the colors better is diceptive becasue of land mass vs population centers.

[jackson]

6. Bush cheated, didn't even win

If you discount fraud, computer "mistakes" and other GOP suppression techniques in Ohio, Kerry easily won that state. And there are 6 MILLION votes across the country that were not counted, that were so-called "spoiled."
What mandate?
Bush has cheated all his life to "win." People who knew him as a kid in Texas say he cheated in baseball games to win, changing the rules until his side won. It hasn't stopped as an adult.....

[Horushawk]

8. Texas has suffered greatly because of Bush

We have the lowest education and highest pollution

[Bridget Burke]

10. And we have electronic voting in Harris County (Houston)....

It's purple on the county map--should it actually be blue violet?

I believe Austin has electronic voting, too. Where else in Texas?

[jarab]

11. You'd think we just suffered a Mondale/McGovern-like defeat ...

I will agree that hope is not lost.

We must find a way to get another voting bloc or hope for * to lose one through his (in)actions. We should not have to relinquish any seats in the big tent; there are issues to be explored which could get us that extra state or two.
We must hold on to our existing blocs, however. The glass is half-full.

The Democratic Party - and events of the next quadrennial - will dictate whether our party can stay this close, breakover, or disintegrate.
What concerns me is whether we can ever be so orchestrated with interest groups and money as we were in this one. I highly suspect "they" will be - as always.
...O...

[kentuck]

12. The job now is to stop all this bullshit talk about a "mandate"

for Bush. He didn't win that overwhelmingly. I've ntoiced that the Repubs are talking of mandate like a mantra. They want those billions in the Social Security fund for their friends on Wall St. However, either way, they will have to borrow the difference somewhere else to make up forwhat they have been robbing from SS to camouflage the real deficit.

[cdp]

14. Unfortunately

elections are all or nothing. 48% of the vote doesn't mean 48% or the presidency.

[kentuck]

16. When was the last time a candidate got 51% and called it a mandate ?

Bush Sr got 51% in '88 and it wasn't a "mandate". But to take that argument, if the Democrats win by 51% the next election, that will be a mandate for national healthcare coverage, do you agree?

[GOPBasher]

13. Bush probably won about 48% of the vote.. voting machines did the rest

[Willy Lee]

15. HE DID NOT!!!!!

Bush did not receive 51% o fthe vote. Bush cheated. Get over it.