The Nashua Advocate: Republican "Tire-Slashing" Complaints Were All Hype

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[ClassWarrior]

1. So they were for the convenience of their staffers and volunteers?

Interesting...

NGU.

[Wilms]

2. More WMD's.

But, if Dems slashed dem repug tires, that's not good at all.

Let's make sure it ain't repugs slashing their own tires.

[Greybnk48]

4. The young people accused (Dems) really did slash the tires

I just got into it with my sister this am about this (we're in WI). She gets the MJS and was practically howling (also listens to Corp. media) Oh, the humanity!! She swallowed the whole thing as if hundreds were kept from the polls. She also went on and on about the fraudulent votes. I reminded her that she was mute about Ohio despite all the info I have given her--she read Freeman's paper for the first time today. Her view was that all elections had shenanigans. This woman has voted straight Dem for 37 years.

My point is that I am astounded by how brainwashed she is, and to some degree I used to be because our sole source for info was Corp. Media. Thank goodness for her the Milw. JS is fairly liberal. There is some humor here. My nephew told me that she thinks I've gone off the deep end because I think there's election fraud. He told me this after I started to tell him I thought his mother was nuts. Our poor kids are taking the brunt of this, but at least we're all talking.

P.S. I think I'm winning. She asked me yesterday to show her proof that there were more than 500 or so protesters at the inauguration (Fox's tally). I sent her the pictures from Brad blog. I also just sent her the latest about the tire slashing from the Nashua Advocate.

[BanzaiBonnie]

10. Fox reported 500?

What bull! My estimate was one out of every three along the parade route were NOT there to support Bush.

[ClassWarrior]

7. That was my thought when I first heard this on E-Day.

They did it themselves, then blamed some sort of vast, left-wing conspiracy...

NGU.

[gumby]

3. Too bad the Republican operatives

that fraudulently questioned voters in my polling place didn't have a bad ride. I found them intimidating assholes. Little Rats checking the voters off their lists. After years of peacefully voting at the same place, 2004 was infected by Republican Scum Monsters. ACK!!!

[Nothing Without Hope]

5. Absolutely no end of Rethug lies and sleaze. Thanks, TNA!

(snip)
The Wisconsin tire-slashing has been used by Republicans for the past sixty days to fend off Democratic accusations that most if not all of the coordinated voter suppression efforts on Election Day were engineered by the Republican Party.
(snip)
And can it be that the Executive Director of the Republican Party of Wisconsin can't even identify a single Republican voter disenfranchised by the tire-slashing -- which, as it turns out, was in no way sponsored, supported, condoned, or sanctioned by the Kerry-Edwards campaign or the Democratic Party of Wisconsin?
(snip)

Funny, I wouldn't have thought these guys had enough imagination to pump up this story of the mean ole Dems keeping all the frail, elderly Repubs from the polls while simultaneously denying ANY disenfranchisment of Dems in the 2000 election. Guess even sewer rats have SOME imagination.

[nashuaadvocate]

8. we're happy to be of assistance n/t

[skids]

6. The only thing better then seeing someone get their ass served...

...to themselves, is when that ass is sliced up like lunchmeat and stacked into a "tripe and foot club sandwich" before being cramming ever so lovingly down their throat.

Thank you nasuaadvocate. That can of whoop-ass hit the spot.

[nashuaadvocate]

19. thanks for the note, skids. appreciate it. -- TNE n/t

[Hugin]

9. I TOLD YOU SO!

I want my cookie. =)

[righteous1]

11. Your hypocrisy concerning the vote fraud issue is disconcerting

Attacking vote fraud in Ohio with tenacious zeal and then turning around and defending it in Wisconsin is both itellectually dishonest and incoherent. No person with the slightest integrity should be an apologist for voter suppression at any level in any form. Credibility is based on both accuracy and consistency. I find both lacking here. If this story would have been reversed and REPs would have been the ones slashing tires, would your position have been the same? I think we both know the answer to that.

[Hugin]

12. Did you read this part?

"Especially now that a substantial piece of the Republican tire-slashing scenario -- utilized so effectively by the G.O.P. to deflect Democratic criticism of the presidential election in Ohio -- appears to have been a lie."

and I'll remind you... Charged does not mean Convicted.

[righteous1]

13. That is NAs conclusion and not supported by the facts.

If a portion of the vehicles service was to be used for poll workers as well as to transport people to the polls; It does not change the fact that there was an effort to deny a certain number of people transportation to the polls and hence their opportunity to cast a ballot. It's despicable regardless of who is behind it and should be treated with disdain not defense

[Hugin]

14. Okay... I'll bite.

What facts?

Have you read the police report?

Have the accused had their day in court?

Are you the presiding judge on the case?

In other words... PROVE IT!

[nashuaadvocate]

17. Sorry, Righteous One, but I see no defense...

...of criminal vandalism in what we wrote. And frankly, that matter is being investigated and will be prosecuted in a court of law: we're not going to convict the defendants on our web-site, especially without the benefit of any of the police reports related to the case.

Allow me, if I can, to re-post on this thread a response to a similar criticism which I posted elsewhere (this was in response to someone who said, in essence, "voter suppression is voter suppression, wherever and however and by whomever it occurs -- why can't you see that?") To which I responded -- and would now respond to you -- as follows:

With all due respect, I think it's obvious why the intended use of the vans is of vital interest to the American people -- and why, not-so-incidentally, it was never disclosed by the G.O.P. until Mr. Wiley was forced to get into it with the press. And here it is: because the motive for the crime (which, of course, remains unproven anyway) may well have *not* been voter suppression, but an attempt to protest the G.O.P.'s racially-discriminatory "caging" policy, to be implemented nationwide by *just those poll-watchers* the G.O.P. vans were intended to transport.


See the difference?


Does that make the tire-slashing right? Of course not. But it also makes it something quite different from "voter suppression," and the G.O.P. knows it.


This is also just part of a trend. If you read The Nashua Advocate and search for the word "dead" on the current page, you'll see a story on a Seattle Post-Intelligencer study which shows conclusively that only one "dead person" votes in America for every 750,000 -- yes, that's right, every 750,000(!) -- legal votes cast. That adds up to a couple of hundred "dead voters" nationally: out of 112 MILLION voters. And yet the G.O.P. has made keeping the dead from voting the cornerstone of their limited (and disingenuous) calls for election reform.


In contrast, a non-partisan study showed that a minimum of 10,000 voters in heavily-Democratic Franklin County *alone* left voting lines because of waits in excess of ten hours. Yet the Republicans don't give a scrap about that.


Again, see the difference? See how the national G.O.P. is misleading the public into thinking that voter suppression is a bi-partisan affair, and that it too "supports" election reform?

Those who read into the article a condoning of criminal activity have not read the article carefully enough: it is clearly and unambiguously titled, and reported, as a criticism of the *public relations aspect* of the case, which The Advocate considers to be -- and has evidence to support this claim, as presented in the article -- a tissue of lies.

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[Hugin]

18. You tell 'em N.A...

Responsible journalism!

Thanks for illustrating the difference between propaganda and
news.

So, stated in another way... This is an instance of suppression
suppression.

I do agree damage to property is a criminal act.
Especially, when one bears false witness about who did it.

That remains to be seen though...

(Edit: Replaced "you" with "one". Read better.)

[pgh_dem]

15. "No person with the slightest integrity should be an apologist for voter

"No person with the slightest integrity should be an apologist for voter suppression at any level in any form."
Absolutely right.
But maybe lets start with voter suppression that actually targeted voters?
It's clear, not just from NA's article, but from the CNN report as well, that these vehicles were for transportation of poll watchers to polling places.

"Wiley didn't say whether the vandalism prevented anyone from voting, but he said poll watchers were about two hours late."

Since I did a similar job driving poll watchers and 'flushers' for Dems, I would be really pissed off if Repubs had slashed my tires.
It's a dirty trick, and the Dems responsible should be prosecuted for vandalism, but it sure isn't voter suppression. I don't know what the term would be for this action, since it targeted Repub volunteers rather than voters.

More to the point, do *you* think voters were suppressed in Ohio? And that the "suppression" there was targeted at voters, not at partisan volunteers?

[mod mom]

16. Media Reform! Stick a sign in your car window, leaflet cars, whatever...

it takes! I wish the youth would stop tagging their own identities and start posting truths that we don't get in the media.