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pox_americana Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 02:52 PM
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NH Voting System Question
I was reviewing a story at RAW regarding the exit poll data from NH and NY. It stated that both states use paper ballots. I live (and vote) in Peterborough, NH

Question: Although the optical ballot I filled out was on paper, it was scanned by a machine and the votes stored. Were these transfered by modem or means at risk of manipulation (and so Fraud)? Or is this considered "safe" voting from the "evote vs paper" debate standpoint?
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 02:54 PM
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1. Anything hooked to a modem can be hacked. The vote counting software
can be crooked too. That is the problem with BBV and secret source code
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Francesca Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 02:56 PM
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2. hey I live in Peterborough
myself, bet we know each other!!... in any event regarding your question I have heard that the scanning software itself is vulnerable (heard about a ballot question in Montana where they had a problem with their scanning).
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pox_americana Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 03:04 PM
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3. Hi! And- the qustion still...
Hi Francesca. I bet we do know each other...

What I was wondering is: Bev Harris showed how some DieBold system could be hacked because the central tally computer is off site and the database can be chaged that way. Is this the system Peterborough uses or is ours more secure? I just don't know which system it is.

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pox_americana Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 03:05 PM
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4. btw
send me an email. I don't have enough posts to send you one.
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Francesca Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 03:11 PM
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6. just tried to send you one
and they won't let me as your too "new". My email is franvivlasala@yahoo.com .
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Francesca Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 03:07 PM
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5. honestly don't know either
but am sure we could call and ask.. did you see the results from the local papers and have a specific concern??
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pox_americana Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 03:12 PM
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7. Concern is from rawstory item
The lead story now at www.rawstory.com is using data from NH and NY states to make a comparasion of paper ballot vs evoting states. I think that even though we (Peterborough, anyway) voted on paper (optical scan, though), it may still be just as open to fraud, and may even be the "fraud of choice" system (DieBold optical scan Accuvote).
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Francesca Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 03:18 PM
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8. just read it
NH as a whole is interesting in terms of the greater Fraud picture as the amount of deviation between exit poll predictions and the final outcome was rather large... I was rather stunned with the final results expecting us to come out strongly for Kerry based not so much even on exit polls but rather polls from the previous week (Franklin Pierce had Kerry with an 11% lead the week prior). Obviously something happened here.....
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