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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:42 AM
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Friedman has a paragraph that I want to share with everyone here.
Irrespective of what your opinion of Thomas Friedman is, he just published a paragraph in his latest Op-Ed that is his assessment of what he has learned on his European visit of the past few days.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/27/opinion/27fried.html?oref=login&hp

"Let me put this as bluntly as I can: There is nothing that the Europeans want to hear from George Bush, there is nothing that they will listen to from George Bush that will change their minds about him or the Iraq war or U.S. foreign policy. Mr. Bush is more widely and deeply disliked in Europe than any U.S. president in history. Some people here must have a good thing to say about him, but I haven't met them yet."



To the extent we document fraud and disenfranchisement, force indictments, force prosecution, and work to impeach Bush, we may, eventually, recover some respect for America. That will only happen if "We The People of the United States of America..." do it; the Bush neocon, theocratic cabal is forever despised and discredited, as they should be.

BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION; 24/7 --- and be sure to view:
http://www.zonaeuropa.com/01467.htm


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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:44 AM
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1. Its nice to know there share my thoughts.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:45 AM
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2. Thanks for sharing! That about sums it up. Pariah nation.
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NickiWitch Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:45 AM
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3. That's about as blunt as it gets. n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:45 AM
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4. A colleague of mine travels to Europe on business often and
has stated that the Europeans have a deep disdain for bush.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:47 AM
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5. Thanks, UL, for this
and for all your varied and invaluable contributions here.

You make a difference.

Onward.

:thumbsup:
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:57 AM
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6. I'm so glad Friedman has pulled his head out of his ass
and taken a look around...

and I wish it made up for his being a war apologist for the last three years, but it doesn't.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:02 PM
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7. Agree fully. And, I'll cut anyone some slack if they begin to state the...
....facts, plainly and bluntly.

Peace.

TBO;24/7
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:06 PM
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8. Well said Thomas Friedman n/t
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:09 PM
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9. Thanks. I've gone out and posted this
at another site I visit about mostly innocuous things. They depend on me and a couple of others to post articles about things like matter, like the rising deficit, China's loss of confidence in the dollar, etc.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:10 PM
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10. My latest email to members of the US Congress: feel free to replicate...
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 12:13 PM by understandinglife
....modify, but, most importantly, stay in our representatives faces, 24/7. They work for us.

* and his neocon cabal are all ours now; let's make sure they know we intend to hold them totally accountable for their crimes and we intend to expose the fact that they stole another election as part of their treasonous efforts to undermine our Constitution.

_____________________________________________________

Dear Congressperson or Senator ____________,

an enduring american legacy: the Children of Iraq

http://www.zonaeuropa.com/01467.htm

You are looking at images of the consequences of a Constitution-violating, preemptive, illegal war against a sovereign Nation -- Iraq. These young folk would probably appreciate a break from the American variety of freedom and 'democracy.'

No wonder that Thomas Friedman reports the following after a few recent days in Europe:

“Let me put this as bluntly as I can: There is nothing that the Europeans want to hear from George Bush, there is nothing that they will listen to from George Bush that will change their minds about him or the Iraq war or U.S. foreign policy. Mr. Bush is more widely and deeply disliked in Europe than any U.S. president in history. Some people here must have a good thing to say about him, but I haven't met them yet.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/27/opinion/27fried.html?oref=login&hp

Anointing Ms Rice as SoS, I’m sure did much to dispel that opinion – NOT.

To the extent we document the election fraud and disenfranchisement on 2 Nov 2004, force indictments, force prosecution, and work to impeach Bush, we may, eventually, recover some respect for America.

That will only happen if "We The People of the United States of America..." do it; the Bush neocon, theocratic cabal is forever despised and discredited, as they should be.

As our representative, I expect you fully to support Congressman Conyers’ investigations.

As our representative, I expect you to author and support a resolution demanding the immediate removal of US troops from our illegal occupation of Iraq.

As our representative, I expect you to demand a full investigation of Bush and every member of his cabal who perpetrated an unjust, illegal and un-Constitutional war; the killings of countless innocent Iraqi citizens; and the torture of countless Iraqi’s and others.

And I expect you will do everything you can to prevent Mr Gonzales from being appointed AG.

Thank you,




BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION;24/7
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NationalEnquirer Donating Member (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:16 PM
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11. Friedman can be weird.
I think he tries TOO HARD to be "balanced", so being in the media, and being pussy-whipped by the charge of "liberal bias" in the media, he, along with most other reporters, go out of their way to try to be "balanced", even when there can be no such thing on an issue.
<P>I believe that THIS has been the Conservatives greatest achievement, they have whipped the liberal leaning reporters (EVERY reporter I have ever known has been a Democrat) into being mouthpieces for the GOP!
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passy Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:37 PM
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12. Can we convince the MSM that they will go down *? At least the editors.
Goebbels would have been put on trial at Nuremberg had he not committed suicide. Could we maybe allude to the fact that the news editors of the MSM are complicit with * and will be brought to trial when the administration is indicted, prosecuted and impeached, on charges of propaganda and treason against the American people.
If they are convicted I would love to see Rupert Murdoch's head on a stake (not inciting murder just using revolutionary language).
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ClintCooper2003 Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:42 PM
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13. My favorite section:
Many young Europeans blame Mr. Bush for making America, since 9/11, into a strange new land that exports fear more than hope, and has become dark and brooding - a place whose greeting to visitors has gone from "Give me your tired, your poor" to "Give me your fingerprints." They look at Mr. Bush as someone who stole something precious from them.

Tim Kreutzfeldt, the bar owner, said to me: "Bush took away our America. I mean we love America. We are very sad about America. We believe in America and American values, but not in Bush. And it makes us angry that he distorted our image of the country which is so important to us. It is not what America stands for - and this makes us angry and it should make every American angry, because America lost so much in its reputation worldwide." The Bush team, he added, is giving everyone in the world the impression that "somebody is coming to kill you."

Stefan Elfenbein, a food critic nursing a beer at our table, added: "I know many people who don't want to travel to America anymore. ... People are afraid to be hassled at the border. ... We all discuss it, when somebody goes to America 'Are you sure?' We had hope that Kerry would win and would make a statement, 'America is back to what it was four years ago.' We hoped that he would be the symbol, the figure who would say, ' is the country that welcomes everybody again.' now we have to wait four more years, hopefully for somebody to give us back the country we knew and liked."
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:48 PM
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14. Do be sure to read Ms Dowd's "Love for Sale"!! -- "Torture Boy" is ...
...a phrase she uses, among other scathing remarks. Her past few op-eds have been blistering.

One quote:

"I still have many Christmas bills to pay. So I'd like to send a message to the administration: THIS SPACE AVAILABLE. I could write about the strong dollar and the shrinking deficit. Or defend Torture Boy, I mean, the esteemed and sage Alberto Gonzales. Or remind readers of the terrific job Condi Rice did coordinating national security before 9/11 - who could have interpreted a memo titled "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States" as a credible threat? - not to mention her indefatigable energy obscuring information undercutting the vice president's dementia on Iraq.

"Love for Sale" by Ms Dowd:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/27/opinion/27dowd.html?hp

Would appear that she is vying for Chief of Communications of BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION;24/7 -- be sure to contact her and encourage her to take the position; though it won't help with her Christmas bills :evilgrin:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:16 PM
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15. And, Frank Rich slams *, all in the same issue of the NYTimes!!
Frank Rich acknowledges Ms Bachrach and totally crushes * and his neocon, theocratic cabal buddies.

Two quotes:

"Iraq is Vietnam on speed - the false endings of that tragic decade re-enacted and compressed in jump cuts, a quagmire retooled for the MTV attention span."

<snip>

"In this same vein, television's ceremonial coverage of the Inauguration, much of which resembled the martial pageantry broadcast by state-owned networks in banana republics, made a dutiful show out of the White House's claim that the four-day bacchanal was a salute to the troops. The only commentator to rudely call attention to the disconnect between that fictional pretense and the reality was Judy Bachrach, a writer for Vanity Fair, who dared say on Fox News that the inaugural's military ball and prayer service would not keep troops "safe and warm" in their "flimsy" Humvees in Iraq. She was promptly given the hook. (The riveting three-minute clip, labeled "Fair and Balanced Inauguration," can be found at ifilm.com, where it has seized the "most popular" slot once owned by Jon Stewart's slapdown of Tucker Carlson.) "

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/30/arts/30rich.html?8hpib

Maybe these folk are starting to read our emails!! :evilgrin:

BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION;24/7
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