The Main Reason We Lost...

[nradisic]

Ignorance. There were several reasons, from a weak candidate to fraud, but ignorance won the election. We are dealing with the fact that many millions of Americans would probably be on our side if they only knew the truth. Thank the media.

IGNORANCE BREEDS FEAR BIGOTRY HATRED & LIES!
THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIAN VALUES!

[rainy]

1. I believe you are so right!

If people knew the truth they would not vote for Bush. Third parties would have the right to be on all ballots. The media absolutely is to blame. They know nothing.

[robbedvoter]

2. We won. They stole it. But yeah, the votes for W were by ignorants

Bon Herbert has an article on that in NYT today

[grace0418]

6. Agreed

Ignorance and electoral perfidy stole this election from America.

[pleiku52cab]

7. link ?

[robbedvoter]

10. Here: Voting without the facts

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/08/opinion/08herbert.html?oref=login



The so-called values issue, at least as it's being popularly tossed around, is overrated.

Last week's election was extremely close and a modest shift in any number of factors might have changed the outcome. If the weather had been better in Ohio. ...If the wait to get into the voting booth hadn't been so ungodly long in certain Democratic precincts. ... Or maybe if those younger voters had actually voted. ...

I think a case could be made that ignorance played at least as big a role in the election's outcome as values. A recent survey by the Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland found that nearly 70 percent of President Bush's supporters believe the U.S. has come up with "clear evidence" that Saddam Hussein was working closely with Al Qaeda. A third of the president's supporters believe weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq. And more than a third believe that a substantial majority of world opinion supported the U.S.-led invasion.

[Lefty48197]

3. Bringing down the corporate media monopoly would be a good start.

How can we expect people to know the truth, when they have Rush Limbaugh screaming in their ears 15 hours per week? Or Sean Hannity srcreaming in their ears for 15+ hours per week? Or George Will, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Bill O'Reilly, etc. etc. etc.
What do they all have in common? The corporate media gives them a forum to slander us. It's time to bring down the corporate media.

[katmondoo]

5. Your Right the media is the biggest problem

With all the disinformation how can people vote on the issues. All the Bush ass kissing took its toll.

[d_b]

4. That's the main reason

[blm]

8. A weak candidate would have lost all the debates. The media propped Bush

up throughout the year and the crazy Left Behind constituency who expect Bush to lead them into the End Times were never exposed.

[Ducks In A Row]

9. I guess the diebold machines had nothing to do with it?

stop pretending we lost. We didn't. It was stolen again. And will continue on this way until we break the back of the fraud.

[idiosyncratic]

11. Faux news, and the others increase ignorance.

BUT . . . even with that fact, without the obvious fraud -- more evidence mounting with every passing minute -- they couldn't have won this election.

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[kayell]

12. The main reason we "lost"....

FRAUD

[wrate]

13. I disagree. It's ideology that beat us.

The information is out there. Internet, newspapers, news channels. Granted most of it (general media) will put out anything without bothering to investigate the veracity of things.

But the information is out there. Except if you are the kind of person who believes that it's OK if your president lies because he is doing it for a higher purpose. Like say about Iraq, but since he is doing it because God told him to do it or some crap like that. Or that it is OK to kill innocent people (Arabs) as long as that gets the terrorists.

This are examples of information that is out there, that everyone knows but that many disregard as important because their ideology dictates that. So, this people's choices differ from ours in that their reasoning respond to illogical or faith based perceptions of what is happening. Their vote for the chimperor is the same thing.

So it's no so much the information people get, but what they make of it. IMHO.

Still, I cannot believe that there are more faith-based people in America than there are reality-based. Which means that the elections were stolen, which is my take on why Democrats lost.

[darrenmurphy]

14. It was our own fault...

Why don't we stop crying like a bunch of sissies and start formulating a plan for strengthening our party. I personally feel that we had a weak candidate who was trying to gain the votes of everyone, but at the same time was alienating his party by doing so. Any one of the other Democratic candidates could have easily beat Shrub. Kerry was such a terrible choice, that polls across the country reflected that more Democrats voted for Bush (percentage-wise) than Republicans voting for Kerry. This, along with the fact that we lost seats in the house and senate, shows that our appeal to the people who aren't strong liberals is fading.