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dogindia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:06 PM
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Lets find a way to get complete election fraud info to Seymour Hersh
if it hasn't been done. There is so much. I am not the best one to do it. So many here know all the details and links and texts. Do we have his email? I just tried to pull up an old DU media list but it failed.

Thank you all.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:07 PM
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1. Who is Seymour Hersh? n/t
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:08 PM
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3. he uncovered My Lai massacre and lately the Iran covert ops
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 06:10 AM
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12. Thanks for the info.
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:35 PM
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6. Two links
Lately Hersh was the first to break the story on Abu Ghraib torture:
http://www.newyorker.com/printable/?fact/040510fa_fact

and wrote about preparations to attack Iran:
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0117-11.htm

Google him for more.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 06:11 AM
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13. Thanks for the links, I'll check him out.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:08 PM
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2. what makes you think he doesn't know or hasn't seen it all?
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:14 PM
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4. because that's the problem with most of them
they just don't know the facts.

senators, reporters, people, are not acting because they don't know what is going on. we need to educate them.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:24 PM
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5. I think Mr. Hersh is very busy
and he chooses the stories he investigates. He's doing all he can at the moment on the foreign front, Greg Palast is our reporter on election fraud and he's doing an excellent job.

The fact that these first rate investigative reporters are not household names is proof of the success of the right wing corporate bosses in silencing dissent in this country.
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dogindia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:43 PM
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7. does anyone have his direct email at the New Yorker?
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seaclyr Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:39 PM
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8. Apparently he isn't sympathetic to the idea that B* stole the election
It's reported that in a talk at Hampshire College in November he insisted instead that "Kerry lost the election."
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/18/194542/40
But who knows, maybe he could be persuaded otherwise?
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 03:26 AM
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9. I don't think anybody should be held to what they said in...
...November.
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seaclyr Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 07:11 AM
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14. Of course not
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 03:55 AM
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10. I think this is a very good idea!
Edited on Wed Feb-02-05 03:56 AM by Peace Patriot
And I imagine you could just mail it to Seymour Hersch, c/o The New Yorker. He's a reporter. He'll open his mail.

The package should be a very good one--and very compact. A letter making the following points--and supporting urls.

Dear Seymour Hersch:

1. According to the Rasmussen poll recently, Bush's approval rating has sunk to a truly dismal 43%. Other polls show that nearly 60% of Americans disapprove of the Iraq War. 63% disapprove of torture with no exceptions (recent ABC poll). Altogether, this is an unprecedented "vote of no confidence" in a recently inaugurated president. So...what is this person doing in the White House?

2. On Jan. 29, a group of experts including nine Ph.D.'s issued a report that says: a) Kerry won the Exit Polls on Election Day by a 3% margin; b) the pollsters' explanation for this--that Republicans were shy of pollsters--is without foundation, and in fact the data indicate that the opposite is true--the Exit Polls were skewed to Bush--meaning that Kerry's margin may be even higher; c) the odds against the Bush win are 1 in 10 million, based on an examination of the Exit Polls, and d) they call for a full investigation of the 2004 election--the latest in a growing list of experts who have done so (see below).

3. Dr. Steven Freeman calculated the probable vote for Kerry, by adding up the repeat voters from 2000, the big jump of Nader voters to Kerry, and the new voter registration which favored Democrats by 57% to 41%, and said that Kerry should have received 4 million to 8 million more votes than the official result reflected (a Kerry victory).

4. The election results were tabulated using secret, proprietary source code owned and controlled by rightwing Republicans and major Bush donors. The election computers that these pro-Bush companies sold to the states have been proven to be extremely insecure, unreliable and hackable.

5. In addition to the highly suspicious overall result (Bush winning), there were 57,000 complaints to Congress indicating massive suppression of minority and Democratic votes, and suspicious machine malfunction (such as numerous touchscreen electronic voting machines changing Kerry votes to Bush votes all day long without correction).

Enclosure: Here are some of the expert reports on the 2004 election that you should be familiar with.

Exit poll analysis: astronomical odds against Bush win

Dr. Steven Freeman: http://www.appliedresearch.us/sf/epdiscrep.htm
Dr. Ron Baiman: http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/997
Dr. Webb Mealy: http://www.selftest.net/redshift.htm
Jonathan Simon:http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00142.htm
(9 Ph.D's from leading universities call for investigation of 2004 Election:)
http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/US/USCountVotes_Re_Mitofsky-Edison.pdf

(Florida: 130,000 to 230,000 phantom votes for Bush--paper vs. electronic voting:)
Dr. Michael Haut & UC Berkeley statistical team: http://ucdata.berkeley.edu

Johns Hopkins report on insecurity of electronic voting (general):
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00196.htm#5

Easy demo of the insecurity of electronic voting machines:
http://www.chuckherrin.com/hackthevote.htm

Ohio vote suppression: http://www.bpac.info

Documentation of widespread machine fraud and dirty tricks in over 20 states: http://www.flcv.com/ussumall.html

Democratic Underground (ignatzmouse):
(North Carolina: absentee ballot vs. electronic, inexplicable 6% edge to Bush in electronic:)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x45003
(also at: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/12/233831/06)

Democratic Underground (TruthIsAl)l: "To believe Bush won, you have to believe…"

Part 1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1316010

Part 2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1358806

Part 3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x197878


In progress compilations of various articles and materials on 2004 Election Fraud:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x311105

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=304579

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GO AHEAD AND SEND THIS LETTER TO HERSCH! (check spelling of Hersch)
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 04:02 AM
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11. How about Ron Suskind?
He wrote that book with Paul O'Niel and the piece in the Times called "No Doubt." This is where that "we make our own reality" quote comes from. That's as good a metaphor for election fraud as any and he said before the dirty deed that he thought Rove wouldn't let Shrub lose.
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