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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 06:16 PM
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Here's a good site with voters problems compiled.........
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Date Problem Type State
Description

11/8/2004 Machine malfunction SC The town of Lexington has 200 votes stuck in an ES&S iVotronic electronic voting machine that malfunctioned and they can't figure out how to retrieve the data. Story
11/7/2004 Provisional ballots FL Broward County accepted on 2428 provisional ballots out of a "ton" of them. In many cases, clerks at the polling places gave provisional ballots to people who could have voted regularly, deputy registrar Salas said. She thinks many clerks had trouble with last names of voters with compound names -- they simply couldn't find their names in the precinct registers, even though they were there. Story
11/7/2004 Registration fraud NJ Hundreds, perhaps thousands of students at Rutgers University thought they were registered only to find that they weren't on the rolls and could only vote provisionally. Many colleges are reporting the same problem. Story Archive
11/7/2004 User-unfriendly design TX Willacy County. Too few memory packs somehow caused the County Clerk to read machine reports wrong and initially report double the votes for president. Story Archive
11/6/2004 Machine malfunction PA Mercer County. Problems shut down Unilect Patriot electronic voting machines for all or most of the day. Story Archive
11/6/2004 Machine malfunction PA Mercer County. Accuracy of the Unilect Patriot machines are in serious question. One machine recorded 51 votes for president out of 289 ballots cast. The county's Web site reports that 51,818 people cast ballots but 47,768 ballots were recorded in the presidential race, including 61 write-ins. About 4,000 votes could be unaccounted for. Story Archive
11/5/2004 Late counting CA Santa Clara County. About one-third of the ballots remain to be counted because of the high numbers of absentee ballots, paper ballots requested by voters at the polls, and provisional ballots Story
11/5/2004 Late counting CO Boulder County's new Hart paper ballot system doesn't count ballots fast enough for the press. Story Archive
11/5/2004 Machine malfunction NE Sarpy County. A computer problem doubled the votes in half the county's precincts, adding 3000 phantom votes to the totals. Story Archive
11/5/2004 Machine malfunction OH Columbus. A Danaher ELECTronic 1242 computer error with a voting machine cartridge gave President Bush 3,893 extra votes in a Gahanna precinct. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct. A cartridge from one of three voting machines at the polling place generated a faulty number at a computerized reading station. Matthew Damschroder, director of the Franklin County Board of Elections said the cartridge was retested Thursday and there were no problems. He couldn't explain why the computer reader malfunctioned. Story
11/5/2004 User-unfriendly design WA Thurston County. The Thurston County elections staff recounted an estimated 81,000 ballots first tallied Election Day after learning that computer software wasn't set up properly for the first count. In this case, an "F2 key" was not punched when elections workers set up the vote-counting machines prior to Tuesday's election, Wyman said. Story Archive
11/4/2004 Late counting FL Lee County. More than 40,000 ballots remain to be counted after Wednesday. Story
11/4/2004 Machine malfunction FL Broward County. ES&S vote tabulating software used for absentee ballots "is not geared to count more than 32,000 votes in a precinct. So what happens when it gets to 32,000 is the software starts counting backward. Amendment 4 passed in Broward County by more than 240,000 votes rather than the 166,000-vote margin reported Wednesday night. ES&S has known about the problem for two years and done nothing about it. The same software is used in Martin and Miami-Dade Counties.Story Archive
11/4/2004 Machine malfunction FL Volusia County. Memory-card breakdowns in six machines left political contests in limbo for hours. The county had the memory cards inspected by Diebold this summer in preparation for the busy election season. Ion Sancho, the elections supervisor in Leon County, said officials with Diebold told him that the new, higher-capacity memory cards tend to have more glitches than older cards. Story Archive
11/4/2004 Machine malfunction FL Seminole County. Memory card failures similar to Volusia County's. Story Archive
11/4/2004 User-unfriendly design FL Collier County. Test votes were added to the tally on the ES&S tabulation software. Story
11/4/2004 Machine malfunction MD Data transmission failures occurred in 14 precincts. Story

11/4/2004 Machine malfunction NC More than 4,500 Carteret County votes have been lost on a Unilect electronic voting machine. The vendor said it would hold 10,500 ballots. It would only hold 3,005 and 7,530 people cast their ballots on it. Story Archive

11/4/2004 Machine malfunction NC Mecklenburg County. Before the election, the county election office said 102,109 people voted early or returned valid absentee ballots. Unofficial results from election night showed 106,064 of those votes. Story Archive Machines mistallied.
11/4/2004 Machine malfunction NC In Craven County, all vote totals in nine of the county's 26 precincts were electronically doubled, increasing the totals for president by 11,283 more than the number of votes cast. Correcting the mistake changed the outcome of at least one race. ES&S Votronic machines used. Automatic warning of double-counting didn't work. Story Archive
11/4/2004 Machine malfunction NC In Onslow County, a software error changed the order of finish in the race for seats on the county commission. The error didn't change who won the seats, just the order in which they finished. A floppy disk that compiles voting data from the counting machines was programmed incorrectly. Story Archive
11/4/2004 Machine malfunction NC In Yadkin County, about 1,000 ballots were accidentally counted twice. Story Archive
11/4/2004 Machine malfunction NC In Guilford County, ES&S early voting machines had capacity problems, which affected anywhere from 6,000 to 20,000 ballots. The problem was corrected. Story Archive
The totals were so large, the tabulation computer threw some numbers away. Retallying changed two outcomes and gave an additional 22000 votes to Kerry. Story Archive

11/4/2004 Machine malfunction SC Lancaster County. A malfunction stopped the computerized tally late Tuesday night about a third of the way through, and elections officials said they were unable to restart the procedure. After hours on the phone with technical support people from the manufacturer of their Patriot Unilect voting machines, a printout of each voter's ballot was successful, they said. However, results had to be counted by hand. Story Archive
11/4/2004 Machine malfunction TX Wichita County. More than 6,900 of about 26,000 ballots - mostly early votes - did not record votes for president with 10 of 52 precincts reporting. Similar problems were noted on all other races. Election officials believe ES&S machines are counting votes correctly but that computer programs that process results are malfunctioning. No one knows what the problem is. Story1 Story2 Archive1
11/3/2004 Machine malfunction GA Walker County. Delays began early in the day at the Chattanooga Valley precinct with problems with an encoder, which is used to program the voting cards, Walker Board of Elections member Terry Morgan said. Diebold, manufacturer of the electronic voting machines, did not program the encoder properly, he said. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Malfeasance GA Failure to provide a list of early voters to Walker County poll workers delayed the ballot count Tuesday night. Elections workers said they had to check manually to weed out duplicate ballots. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Ballot secrecy violation MD One complaint heard across Maryland was that voters were a little uncomfortable with a lack of privacy, which allowed others to see how they cast their votes. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Machine malfunction MD Poll watchers report vote counts that did not match the check-in numbers. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Machine malfunction MD Nine voting machines ran out of battery power and nearly 40 votes may have been lost in Palm Beach County. The nine machines at a Boynton Beach precinct weren't plugged in properly, and their batteries wore down around 9:30 a.m. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Machine malfunction MD The software running on the touch-screen machines used across the state failed to record some votes correctly, jumped to other pages on the ballot without being prompted by the voter and inadvertently omitted some political races, according to TrueVoteMD. "We have received hundreds of calls from across the state," said the group’s co-director. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Machine malfunction MD A woman in Baltimore County pushed her selection for president and senator repeatedly, but couldn’t get the machine to register her choice properly. A man in Montgomery County said the machine skipped right past the presidential and senate races. A woman in Montgomery County tried to make her selection for the county school board, but the machine advanced to the next screen after she had chosen only half of the candidates. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Provisional ballots MD Some people had trouble getting provisional ballots, including a soldier who had recently returned from Iraq, until state elections officials intervened. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Registration fraud MD Hundreds of student voters at the University of Maryland, College Park, were turned away because they had been improperly registered by a campus organization. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Fraud (other) OH In Trumbull County, a voter in Warren Township precinct D arrived at the polls to discover that someone had already voted in her name. The person who used her name apparently forged her signature and wrote that she lived at a different address. Board of Elections allowed her to cast a ballot. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Machine malfunction OH Mahoning County. The glass on top of one electronic screen was too far from the screen, making it difficult for people to use their fingers to cast ballots. A screen went blank on a Youngstown voter while he cast his ballot. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Machine malfunction OH Mahoning County. 20 to 30 machines that needed to be recalibrated during the voting process because some votes for a candidate were being counted for that candidate's opponent. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Machine malfunction OH Mahoning County. About a dozen machines needed to be reset because they essentially froze. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Animosity at polls PA Both the Democratic and Republican challengers posted at Warren 2E were tossed from the polling station after precinct judges complained they were disruptive. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Machine malfunction PA Computer software errors caused Unilect touch-screen voting machines to malfunction in about a dozen precincts Tuesday. Some machines never operated, some offered only black screens and some required voters to vote backwards, starting on the last page of the touch-screen system and working back to the front page. Some of those systems never came back on line. Story Archive


http://www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp?offset=0&catid=&showall=&sort=

There's more pages on this.........

Here's OH

Date Problem Type State
Description

11/5/2004 Machine malfunction OH Columbus. A Danaher ELECTronic 1242 computer error with a voting machine cartridge gave President Bush 3,893 extra votes in a Gahanna precinct. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct. A cartridge from one of three voting machines at the polling place generated a faulty number at a computerized reading station. Matthew Damschroder, director of the Franklin County Board of Elections said the cartridge was retested Thursday and there were no problems. He couldn't explain why the computer reader malfunctioned. Story
11/3/2004 Fraud (other) OH In Trumbull County, a voter in Warren Township precinct D arrived at the polls to discover that someone had already voted in her name. The person who used her name apparently forged her signature and wrote that she lived at a different address. Board of Elections allowed her to cast a ballot. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Machine malfunction OH Mahoning County. The glass on top of one electronic screen was too far from the screen, making it difficult for people to use their fingers to cast ballots. A screen went blank on a Youngstown voter while he cast his ballot. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Machine malfunction OH Mahoning County. 20 to 30 machines that needed to be recalibrated during the voting process because some votes for a candidate were being counted for that candidate's opponent. Story Archive
11/3/2004 Machine malfunction OH Mahoning County. About a dozen machines needed to be reset because they essentially froze. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Absentee ballots (late) OH A woman sued elections officials Tuesday on behalf of Ohio voters who claim they did not receive their absentee ballots on time, seeking permission for them to be able to cast provisional ballots at the polls. SoS office said state law says that if a board of elections sent someone an absentee ballot, that person cannot try to vote at a polling place. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Animosity at polls OH In Cleveland, a Democratic official was thrown out by a screaming poll judge before another told him he could return to the church basement. Story
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction OH Cincinnati. Problems with punch card voting machines delayed the start of voting for up to an hour Tuesday morning at a suburban precinct. Voters were unable to slide their punch-card ballots all the way into any of the six voting machines that had ALL evidently been damaged in transit. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction OH In Columbus, Ohio, overcharged batteries on Danaher Controls ELECTronic 1242 systems kept machines from booting up properly at the beginning of the day. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Malfeasance OH State J. Kenneth Blackwell said voters could not cast provisional ballots despite not receiving their absentee ballots in time. (A judge overruled him, saying that the federal Help America Vote Act requires that people who claim to be eligible voters must be allowed to cast provisionals regardless of the reason they are not on the rolls or are challenged.) Story Archive
11/1/2004 Voter challenges OH Jefferson County. Some challenged voters have not been notified that their registration has been challenged and their right to vote is in question. Names were merely published in a nearly unreadable list in the local paper. Story
10/31/2004 Vote suppression OH Lake County. Some voters received a memo on bogus Board of Elections letterhead informing voters who registered through Democratic and NACCP drives that they could not vote. Election officials referred the matter to the sheriff. Story Archive
10/31/2004 Vote suppression OH Cleveland, unknown volunteers began showing up at voters' doors illegally offering to collect and deliver completed absentee ballots to the election office. Story Archive
10/31/2004 Vote suppression OH Cleveland. Voters have been receiving phone calls incorrectly informing them that their polling place had changed. Story Archive
10/31/2004 Voter challenges OH Civil rights lawyers for the Bush administration's Justice Department have notified a federal judge that they see no conflict with Republican plans to post thousands of partisan challengers in Ohio polling places on Election Day. Republicans plan to put about 3,600 challengers in the polls across the state; Democrats plan slightly more than 2,000. Story Archive
10/30/2004 Animosity at polls OH In Cleveland, the police were called when members of a community group tried to deliver a letter to the Cuyahoga County Republican headquarters asking the party to withdraw challenges against voters. Punches were thrown at the front door and each side accused the other of assault, but the police could not determine who was at fault. Story Archive
10/30/2004 Election law OH Under election law, boards of elections cannot even begin counting provisional ballots until Nov. 13. Because that's a Saturday, many boards may wait until Nov. 15, the following Monday, to begin counting. Story
10/30/2004 Voter challenges OH Thousands of Republican challengers will be stationed at precincts around the state, carrying lists of recent deaths and of absentee ballot voters, to ensure that no one votes twice. They plan to challenge many of the 23,000 voters on their list, as is allowed under Ohio law. Story Archive
10/30/2004 Voter challenges OH Erie County. Voters challenged by the Republican party prove to the election board that they are legitimate. Story
10/26/2004 Registration delays OH Cuyahoga County. The Cuyahoga County Board of Elections has botched the registrations of more than 10,000 voters, preventing them from heading to the ballot box next week, according to a lawsuit filed late Monday. Story
10/24/2004 Voter challenges OH GOP files excessive registration challenges. Story1 Story2 Archive1
10/23/2004 Voter challenges OH The Republican party took formal steps to place thousands of recruits inside polling places on Election Day to challenge the qualifications of voters they suspect are not eligible to cast ballots. Story Archive
10/22/2004 Fraud (misc) OH Franklin County. Reports of about a dozen voters contacted by someone claiming to be from the county Board of Elections, telling them their voting location was changed. Story
10/20/2004 Absentee ballots (error) OH Cuyahoga County. Arrows on absentee ballots don't line up with the correct punch hole. "If absentee voters cast their vote by trying to line up the arrow with the punch card, they could punch the wrong number."
Story
10/19/2004 Ballot printing error OH Hamilton County. At least two absentee ballots did not include Kerry's name. Workers accidentally removed Kerry when removing Ralph Nader's name.
Story
10/8/2004 Registration fraud OH Hamilton County is investigating 19 registrations that may be for non-existent people. Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) turned in cards with similar handwriting and false addresses. Story

You can do state by state. i don't know who owns this webstite but they did a great job.


Here's the first page of FL


Date Problem Type State
Description

11/7/2004 Provisional ballots FL Broward County accepted on 2428 provisional ballots out of a "ton" of them. In many cases, clerks at the polling places gave provisional ballots to people who could have voted regularly, deputy registrar Salas said. She thinks many clerks had trouble with last names of voters with compound names -- they simply couldn't find their names in the precinct registers, even though they were there. Story
11/4/2004 Late counting FL Lee County. More than 40,000 ballots remain to be counted after Wednesday. Story
11/4/2004 Machine malfunction FL Broward County. ES&S vote tabulating software used for absentee ballots "is not geared to count more than 32,000 votes in a precinct. So what happens when it gets to 32,000 is the software starts counting backward. Amendment 4 passed in Broward County by more than 240,000 votes rather than the 166,000-vote margin reported Wednesday night. ES&S has known about the problem for two years and done nothing about it. The same software is used in Martin and Miami-Dade Counties.Story Archive
11/4/2004 Machine malfunction FL Volusia County. Memory-card breakdowns in six machines left political contests in limbo for hours. The county had the memory cards inspected by Diebold this summer in preparation for the busy election season. Ion Sancho, the elections supervisor in Leon County, said officials with Diebold told him that the new, higher-capacity memory cards tend to have more glitches than older cards. Story Archive
11/4/2004 Machine malfunction FL Seminole County. Memory card failures similar to Volusia County's. Story Archive
11/4/2004 User-unfriendly design FL Collier County. Test votes were added to the tally on the ES&S tabulation software. Story
11/2/2004 Animosity at polls FL Seminole County. GOP poll watcher complained that Democrats were distributing flyers threatening party poll watchers with legal action if they challenged voters they didn't personally know. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction FL Volusia County. A computer error caused a failure of the memory card which stores vote data. 13,000 ballots must be rescanned. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction FL At least 21 voting machines in Broward County malfunctioned and were replaced Tuesday. Most of them had been used by some voters before being taken out of service. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction FL Broward County. An improperly calibrated machine at the polling place at 2501 Coral Springs Dr. in Coral Springs was used by an undetermined number of voters before it was replaced. If they did not review their ballots, it is possible that some votes were recorded inaccurately. Possibly other malfunctioning machines were also miscalibrated. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction FL Broward. Several touch-screen voting machines in Broward County malfunctioned this morning when their batteries went dead. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Machine malfunction FL Nine voting machines ran out of battery power and nearly 40 votes may have been lost in Palm Beach County. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Malfeasance FL Voters in Pompano Beach discovered at the last minute their precinct had been moved from the Pompano Beach Civic Center to a nearby church. The discovery was made after an unknown number of voters had cast provisional ballots at the Civic Center. Precinct 1C has 1,200 registered voters. A similar problem was discovered Tuesday morning at Precinct 72Q in Weston, which has 1,920 voters. These provisional ballots will not count. Story Archive In the Pompano Beach case, neither the clerk nor the voters said they were aware of the address change.
11/2/2004 Provisional ballots FL A small number of voters who went to the wrong precinct in Pompano Beach, Fla., were given provisional ballots, which the county acknowledged was a mistake. In Florida, provisional ballots must be cast in a voter's exact precinct. Story Archive
11/2/2004 Voter intimidation FL Seminole County. Complaints of voter intimidation were also reported at the Community United Methodist Church in Casselberry, Fla. Story Archive
11/1/2004 Animosity at polls FL A widely published investigative journalist was tackled, punched and arrested Sunday afternoon by a Palm Beach County sheriff's deputy who tried to confiscate his camera outside the elections supervisor's headquarters.. Story Archive
10/31/2004 Machine malfunction FL Broward County. After waiting in line for several hours, several voters were told late Sunday evening that they would have to come back another day to be able to cast their ballot. The machines had broken down. Story Archive
10/31/2004 Registration fraud FL Leon and Alachua Counties: Students at Florida State, Florida A&M, and University of Florida. some of whom signed petitions to legalize medical marijuana or impose stiffer penalties for child molesters, unknowingly had their party registration switched to Republican and their addresses changed. Switching voters' party affiliations does not affect their ability to vote, but changing addresses does, because when voters shows up at their proper polling places, they will not be registered there. About 4,000 potential voters in all have been affected. Story Archive
10/31/2004 Too few machines FL In Miami-Dade County, hundreds of people waited for hours Sunday to cast ballots during early voting. Many would-be voters saw the line, shook their heads and left. Ref
10/30/2004 Absentee ballots (late) FL Miami-Dade. Only half the absentee ballots have been returned. Some voters have complained they have not received their ballots in the mail -- A printing delay initially slowed down the mailing of the ballots. Story Archive
10/30/2004 Absentee ballots (late) FL Broward County. 2505 absentee ballots were mailed on Saturday (October 30). Story Archive
10/30/2004 Animosity at polls FL Palm Beach. The waiting time at some polling places on Friday was more than five hours. Shouting matches at voting spots have become common, and vandalism is rampant. The situation is so bad that the city of Boca Raton has instituted a voter intimidation hotline. Boca Raton police cruiser was spray-painted while it was parked at the home of a Boca officer who lives in Boynton Beach. Rocks were thrown at placard-carrying campaigners and car windshields were smashed. Story Archive
10/30/2004 Ballot programming error FL Palm Beach. After a woman finished voting, she realized the touch-screen hadn’t given her the option to vote on the two referendums for Boca Raton or for state House District 87. She was given the wrong ballot because the computer was programmed for the wrong ballot, but she can't re-vote. Story Archive
10/30/2004 Too few machines FL Broward and Miami-Dade counties both have about 1,058,000 registered voters, but Miami-Dade has 20 early-voting sites, compared with Broward's 14. Every Miami-Dade site is equipped with at least 20 voting machines, while some in Broward have fewer than 10. Some voters wait 4-1/2 hours in Broward to vote. Story Archive
10/29/2004 Fraud (other) FL People posing as election officials are attempting to collect absentee ballots and trick voters into not going to the polls. They are also giving misleading information about voting and the polls and asking for personal information about the voters' debts and parking tickets. Story Archive
10/29/2004 Registration fraud FL Broward County. ACORN was sued Friday by two lawyers in Fort Lauderdale for disenfranchising 11 South Florida residents, one from Broward and 10 from Miami-Dade County, by taking their completed voter registration forms and not turning them in. Story Archive
10/29/2004 Voter challenges FL Republican party uses the flawed felon list to challeng a list of 925 voters they say have either voted early or requested an absentee ballot. 580 were Democrats, 214 were Republicans, 127 were independents and four were members of minor parties. Story Archive
10/28/2004 Voter challenges FL Broward County. Republicans and their attorneys say they are arming themselves with lists of voters whose registrations appear flawed, preparing to challenge voters on election day. But they refuse to give the list to officials who want to correct errors ahead of time. Story
10/27/2004 Voter challenges FL Republican document listing 1,886 names and addresses of voters in predominantly black and traditionally Democrat areas of Jacksonville, Florida is believed to be a list of voters to challenge. Targeted challenges based on race are a violation of federal law. Story
10/26/2004 Absentee ballots (error) FL Palm Beach County. LePore said she received one report of a blank page on a ballot. She attributed that to a printing problem. She said there have been "sporadic" reports of people receiving incomplete ballots, but the problem is not widespread. Story Archive
10/26/2004 Absentee ballots (late) FL Broward County. 58,000 ballots that were supposed to mailed out on Oct. 7 and 8 are late and appear to be missing. Story Archive
10/26/2004 Registration errors FL Miami. People who register to vote and don't fill out the form perfectly will not be able to vote. Judge rules that the forms may be thrown out. Story
10/23/2004 Voter intimidation FL Campaigners are harassing voters in counties across the state. A loophole in the state law fails to prevent campaigners from approaching voters during early voting. Story Archive
10/22/2004 Fraud (misc) FL Pasco County. People posing as election officials went to voters' homes and collected their absentee ballots. Story Archive
10/20/2004 Absentee ballots (error) FL Palm Beach County. An unknown number of absentee ballots went out without a second page containing proposed amendments to the state constitution.
Story Archive
10/20/2004 E-Poll book problem FL Hillsborough and Pinellas Counties. Computers fail to connect to the main computer to verify voter registration.
Story Archive
10/20/2004 User-unfriendly design FL Palm Beach County. Poll workers closed the election on machines, rather than just shutting down for the night. Machines can't be used again in the election.
Story Archive
10/19/2004 Machine malfunction FL Palm Beach County. In the second day of early voting, touch screen machines failed and had to be replaced. One machine froze as a voter was voting.
Story
10/19/2004 Provisional ballots FL Florida voters can't use provisional ballots except in their home precincts, the Florida Supreme Court unanimously ruled Monday. Secretary of State Glenda Hood applauded the decision because it will help ensure an orderly election. Story
90 polling places were destroyed by the hurricanes. Story
10/18/2004 Absentee ballots (error) FL Palm Beach County. State legislator received an incomplete absentee ballot when she chose paper instead of the touch-screen.



























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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 06:26 PM
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1. Do Bev and BBv have this? It is a good page...TU. n/t
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 06:28 PM
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2. Yeah I got this link off of bbv.com site.
It's nice because all the dtails are listed so you can print them out.
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