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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:20 PM
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Lawsuit filed in Snohomish County WA !!!
Edited on Thu Apr-07-05 10:20 PM by garybeck
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:28 PM
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1. Nominated! Floaty hearts for Landshark!
Check out lines 8-16 for those who can copy from pdf's :loveya::loveya::loveya:
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Terre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:39 PM
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5. Between Lines 8 -16
1.3 This case implicates questions concerning the proper balance to be struck

between a free people and their government, recognizing the inherent tension between

appropriate delegation of regulatory and administrative functions respecting the conduct of

elections by the people to the agencies of their government, on the one hand, and the

danger that lack of transparent, accurate, and verifiable elections could undermine

accountability and lead to rule by self-perpetuating incumbents with the resulting damage to

our democracy, on the other.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:42 PM
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6. Thanks Terre! n/t
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Terre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:48 PM
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7. De nada
Melissa, and you can do it yourself as well:

Within the PDF file you'll see the "hand" icon up top. To the right of that is the "magnifying glass", and to the right of that is a BIG T with an adjacent box. Click on that BIG T, highlight your text, copy and paste.

You may have to re-format it later, but it sure beats having to type the whole thing by hand.
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Chi Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:27 AM
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20. Very sorry if you already know this.....
Heya M
But if you click on the 'T' in the PDF task bar,
you should be able to copy as you normally do.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:36 PM
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2. Landshark smells blood....
Too cool. I hope it works.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:29 PM
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3. What do ya think 7 day kick is
is in order.GO LANDSHARK, GO DU, GO GO GO
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:29 PM
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4. YEE-HAW!!! Landshark rocks!!! n/t
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:51 PM
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8. Our local "MSM" caves, and will publish Friday!
www.heraldnet.com Olympia reporter/political reporter Jerry Cornfield

Our lawsuit against the restructuring of our voting system in favor of secret unverifiable voting has been filed in King County Superior Court on Thursday April 7. (My attorney is Randy Gordon of Bellevue, WA) You can also read a brief blog article about it and download a copy of the lawsuit here: http://washblog.typepad.com/

My co-plaintiff Jack Wells is a veteran of WWII, and descendent of one of the early state legislators in WA state as well as the descendent of a Revolutionary War soldier.

You might say I “ran into” this Sequoia contract when trying to obtain additional information to supplement the Lehto/Hoffman study on irregularities in the Nov. 2004 election in Snohomish County, which has quite a bit of evidence, but our Auditor stated the only smoking gun he would accept as a clear problem would be evidence that a ballot was not counted as cast. Problem: unless you invade the secrecy of the ballot and track voters and videotape their pressing on the machine, that evidence is impossible to obtain because it doesn't exist.

Not one to chase after wild gooses that don't even exist for too long, and realizing that everyone has a point at which they sober up and start to take things seriously, I sued (i.e. "launched a land shark" of my own)

We’re seeking to void the purchase contract for Sequoia DREs and return the money (around $5 million) to Snohomish County government taxpayers.

The various claims are basically all different way or reasons to reach this same result, but the claims include violations of the constitutional underpinnings of the strongest public policies in the state of Washington, like that of the Open Meetings Act quoted here:

“The people of this state do not yield their sovereignty to the agencies which serve them. The people, in delegating authority, do not give their servants the right to decide what is good for the people to know and what is not good for them to know. The people insist on remaining informed so that they may retain control over the instruments they have created."

Certainly, it’s “good for the people to know” whether the power they are transferring from themselves to the government, as well as the tax money, is being legitimately transferred or not.

Even if it weren’t for the requirement of checks and balances, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to trust any person or government to investigate itself, test itself, count the votes in secret itself, and blow the whistle on itself (unless it absolutely has to).

But the worst kind of secret vote counting system is the kind that does work, or seems to work, *perfectly*, because in that case then people tend to let it slip by and an easily corruptible form of voting becomes the new institution.

This is not about hypothetical concerns about accuracy, both because there’s lots of evidence, but also because there’s nothing “hypothetical” about the fact that an entirely new system of nontraditional nontransparent and non-democratic elections ALREADY HAS BEEN SET UP. Thus, this new system has to be checked and balanced now before it gets the authority of “tradition” behind it.

I’m just glad the Founders didn’t have people running around saying “conspiracy theory” when they were discussing checks and balances, if you know what I mean.

The Lehto/Hoffman Study: www.votersunite.org/info/SnohomishElectionFraudInvestigation.pdf

A very simple one page summary of the study in the form of a press release is here: http://www.votersunite.org/takeaction/mediaSnohomishCounty.htm

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:27 AM
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9. You have my total respect.
Nominating.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:27 AM
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13. Kick! Nominating. Congratulations and good luck.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:29 AM
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10. Did somebody say "Bite Me"????

Insert shark picture again here, from main post above.

: )
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:40 AM
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11. HATS OFF TO LANDSHARK
for a job extremely well done...

A great big THANK-YOU From the folks at countpaperballots.com

let's do this in all 50 states!! let's GO!

see ya in Nashville...
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:13 AM
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12. Evidence of ballot not counted as cast?
Edited on Fri Apr-08-05 01:14 AM by Bill Bored
A. Does it have to be in your jurisdiction?

B. Does it have to be against the same vendor or can it be against one of a CLASS of such vendors or machines?

C. Look at New Mexico! Might be able to dig up something there. Same vendor.

D. Otherwsie there's the ES&S case in WI in which no one who voted Straight Party had their votes counted. Hundreds were lost.

At least they're not saying it has to "effect the outcome of the election!"

Good luck!
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:44 AM
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14. :) n/t

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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 02:21 AM
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15. Here's the link to the local daily "MSM" coverage
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/05/04/08/100loc_voting001.cfm

paragraph 3 must be a typo, saying the reps and dems are shielding information when it should be Sequoia and Snohomish County that are doing that. I'll start this as a thread by itself so people can see at least a little media out there.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 05:19 AM
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16. This is AMAZING! Go get 'em. They count on passivity.
Disappoint them real good. :hi:
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 05:23 AM
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17. This indeed is great news and very exciting!
Good luck and good work!
You have many people pulling for you!

Thank you so much for your efforts!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 05:41 AM
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18. Wooohhooo and so not over it!
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Chi Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 10:24 AM
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19. Go Landshark Go 8) Nominated
And thanks Gary for posting it.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:18 AM
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21. Nominated. Thank you. (nt)
www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 11:33 AM
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22. Kick. n/t
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 12:51 PM
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23. Kicked and nominated -- THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERSISTENCE!
Keep us informed so we can spread the info.

DON'T GIVE UP!

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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 01:17 PM
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24. Hallelujah! Thank you Landshark!......
Maybe this suit will be the one to finally break out all the "proprietary and secrecy" vote tabulation methods into the bright sunshine forever!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:40 PM
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25. TODAY FRIDAY: MSM COVERAGE
Main public radio station KUOW
KOMO AM 1000 large talk station
Seattle Post-Intelligencer inquiry for future
WIRED magazine inquiry for future article
Published article in Everett Herald daily (linked above)
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 07:40 PM
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27. how about Court TV? .... :)
just like the OJ trial
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adolfo Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 05:28 PM
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26. Kick their ass!!!!
:woohoo:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 07:44 PM
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28. Kick from the sharks in Florida
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