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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:51 PM
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States w/evote machines: Paper Ballots not Vapor Ballots - Vote Absentee!
Amaryllis came up with the slogan - thank you!

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x373978#373984

Utah just went electronic despite our best efforts. We know we're not alone so here is a new strategy - vote absentee on paper ballots and make our voices heard by making it clear we don't want or trust the machines!

I'm working on a bumper sticker.

Thanks all!
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starmaker Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 08:57 PM
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1. no vote left unrecountable
a record of intent

WHY CAN'T WE COUNT?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:51 PM
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2. selfish late night kick
I wish I had a catchier subject line
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 03:56 AM
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3. affidavit ballot
What about an "affidavit ballot"? People in a state who have lost faith in the electoral machinery could band together and each fill out a notarized, signed ballot. These would be sorted and counted by hand and this group of people could sue to have the total added to the official count. In case of any question as to the accuracy, the ballots would be kept in a vault, available for inspection by courts, media, etc.

To assure airtight reliability, and to allow verification that no one voted twice, secrecy of the ballots would probably have to be sacrificed. I for one would be happy to give up my right to a secret ballot in exchange for knowing that my ballot would actually be counted.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 02:05 PM
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4. I would give up the secrecy too
but I don't know how many others would be. Since absentee ballots are a known option, I think it may be a more pragmatic way to go.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 02:06 PM
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5. I was quoted in the local paper
Article Last Updated: 6/01/2005 07:41 AM
Utah voting is set to turn high-tech
No more chads: The paper ballots will be replaced by Diebold machines
By Matt Canham
The Salt Lake Tribune
Salt Lake Tribune
Say goodbye to paper ballots, punch pins and the accompanying chads. Utahns will soon tap touch-screen computers to cast their vote.
Lt. Gov. Gary Herbert announced Tuesday that the state has awarded a contract worth about $27 million to Ohio-based Diebold Election Systems, which also runs statewide voting equipment for Georgia, Maryland, Alaska and Arizona.
The new voting booths, resembling and responding like many ATMs, will be in precincts throughout the state by June 2006, though some cities may try them out this November to "work out the bugs," Herbert said.
Tuesday's announcement ends a two-year hunt to replace the antiquated punch-ballot system, and brings Utah in compliance with the Help America Vote Act of 2002, a federal mandate that followed the voting controversy in Florida during the 2000 presidential race.
The state now will enter negotiations with Diebold and county officials to identify the exact number of new voting booths to buy. Each booth costs $3,150. The original state estimate called for 7,500 machines. The company says 6,800 would do the job.
The booths allow voters to go back and change their selections. They also notify voters if they pick two candidates in the same category or skip a race.
"This raises the bar significantly by almost eliminating voter error," Herbert said.
The new system should produce election results much faster. Each electronic booth keeps a running count, negating the need for counting machines. The voting booths produce a computer printout with a bar code to use in cases of a recount or when questions arise over the accuracy of the electronic count. Each voter can examine the accuracy of their votes on the printout, which is displayed under a piece of glass. This paper audit is in response to a law the Legislature passed last session.
Disabled voters also will find the booths more accessible, especially the blind.
Through headphones, blind voters can listen to their options and select their candidates through a key pad.
Bill Gibson can't wait to vote by himself for the first time. Gibson, who works for the state Division of Services for the Blind and Visually Impaired, has been blind since birth.
His wife or an election judge has always helped him vote and he doesn't like how quiet his precinct becomes when he starts voicing his choices.
"People are naturally kind of nosy. They like to know how their neighbors are voting," said Gibson, 53, who helped select the Diebold equipment. "To be able to go in and cast a ballot on my own is a really exciting thing."
But computerized voting machines, generally, and Diebold, specifically, have their detractors.
A computer science professor from Johns Hopkins University has claimed Diebold uses software that is easy to hack into, a claim the company rejects. Last year, Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry complained about Diebold Chief Executive Officer Walden O'Dell's fund-raising for President Bush, according to Bloomberg News.
Utahn Clarity Sanderson's skepticism is more broadly focused. She tried the new voting booths at a mock election in March, and while she agrees they are "very easy to use and extremely user friendly," she distrusts the technology.
"I think it is wrong to have our elections being run by a corporation," she said. "It takes away all transparency in our elections."
Sanderson, who is the co-vice chairwoman of the Utah Democratic Progressive Caucus, will continue to vote, but by absentee paper ballot.

State Elections Director Michael Cragun said security is not a legitimate concern.
"We are confident that this vender will provide us with what we need," he said.
Cragun anticipates the state will impose some sort of spot-audits to ensure accuracy, but no such policy is now in place.
mcanham@sltrib.com
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:01 AM
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6. Check the Absentee Ballot Laws first. n/t
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