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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:02 AM
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Are We Helping Voting Machine Companies, or Opposing Them? By Land Shark
This is something Land Shark wrote that he gave me permission to post.

Are We Helping the Voting Companies, or Opposing Them?
Strategies for Dealing with the Business of Election Secrets.

You probably didn’t know that cigarettes have a lot to do with election reform – they have secrets in common.

The secrets in both election reform and cigarettes are both “trade secrets”. Phillip Morris has successfully claimed trade secrets in the list of additives in their cigarettes so that when Massachusetts passed a law requiring cigarette makers to disclose just the names of additives but not the “recipe”, Phillip Morris won a lawsuit claiming the state had “taken” their trade secret “property”.

Even though trade secrets are simply unprotectable ideas or processes that become protectable only because of the value a business claims they have, along with the business’s efforts at protecting that value through secrecy, they achieve the legal status of “property” more or less at the decision of private companies. Unlike patents, there is no uniqueness or invention required, just an investment-backed expectation of competitive advantage in secrecy.

With elections, the secret software used to count votes is also claimed as a trade secret, along with other items like operator’s manuals and so forth. This “property” trade secret interest means that any attempt to request information regarding the details of vote counting on electronic voting computers will be met with denials and lawsuits.

It gets worse. After having deliberately set up a veil of secrecy, government officials and vendors then tend to ridicule anyone who dares to ask questions about whether democratic integrity really exists behind the veil they’ve set up by suggesting citizens are a “conspiracy theorists”. While one must *necessarily* engage in some inferential thought about what is kept secret (which can then be termed “theory”), there’s nothing theoretical about the simple fact that entirely new election regimes based on secrecy and the absence of checks and balances are being set up all over the United States. Any attempt to object to trade secrecy or the lack of checks and balances is met with the trade secrecy argument, and the specter of having to pay the voting companies yet again, first for having privatized democracy, and then again for getting part of it back by open sourcing the trade secret code which is then claimed as a “regulatory taking”.

Even if made public, open source code is still problematic because it can still be hacked, and any computer or other interface that comes between a voter and her ballot, (just like any human being offering their “services” in filling out the ballots of others and then counting them invisibly and secretly) is a prescription at least for every category of election problems.

The same goes for a voter verified paper BALLOT (better) or TRAIL (worse) if these are appended onto a computer voting system interface. The need for a paper trail reveals the absurdity of the computerized voting in the first place, because it shows that what computerized voting really needs is a paper ballot added! In reality, the emperor has no clothes and computerized voting is an expensive bottleneck that creates election day lines in exchange for the $2500 to $5000 price per computer. Paper ballots need not create lines because they can be voted against a wall or on one’s lap.

Importantly, if we can get beyond the abilities of vendors to add poison pills to reform legislation, anything we would pass regarding existing computerized voting is at risk of simply giving the voting companies a legal claim for takings, impairment of contracts, and/or due process, depending on the specifics. To the extent Republican politicians (unlike Republican rank and file) remain opposed to reform, it is very likely that even the most favorable bill will change dramatically for the worse just prior to the final vote, via amendment.

So, if some well-meaning activists have their way, we will now pay voting companies yet again in order to get all or only part of our democracy back, especially if we hit certain types of home runs legislatively. We may also have to pay them again by buying voter verified paper ballot machines at $1000 a pop or so. Then, the various “cooperation clauses” in the sales contracts for voting computers force the government to cooperate with the vendors to legally quash (crush) any citizens’ subpoenas or requests for information regarding vote counting software. The loyalty of government has been shifted to the corporations and away from the people.

Because the voting machine companies are performing the most central governmental function of all by counting votes, we are well beyond corporate influence on government, or even corporate “control”. The corporations now claim our democracy as their private property.

We need to get beyond the charade of testing and techno-wizardry to the realities that secrecy in government except in very narrow areas is always corrupting, and even more corrupting is elections officials (local and secretary of states) purporting to “check and balance” themselves when they all want things to appear smooth so they can go home on time and not be humiliated in the press.

We also should realize that the most advanced system of voting is the one that offers the lowest payoff per election mistake or election crime. Computers offer big payoffs (with no witnesses), while paper ballots offer typical payoffs of one vote per intimidated or bribed voter (with many witnesses along the way).

The solution is not to aggressively seek new laws, except to the extent of mandating additional disclosure of data results and other things not claimed as trade secrets, but to realize that the imposition of secret vote counting and the contracts for sale of these machines were illegal on the day they were signed. Having never existed (because they are void), there can be no “taking” when they are canceled, and the voting companies can go back to the private sector they came from, if they wish to keep secrets.

So the plan is to launch lawsuits to expose this as the illegal and unconstitutional scheme it is, (such as the lawsuit linked to at www.votersunite.org ) and to check out www.velvetrevolution.us and send e-letters there to all nine major voting companies, pledging boycott and divestment actions if they don’t become public-minded in various specific ways.

More and more, trade secrets are being used not to protect value or innovation, but to hide defects and problems and lack of support for the public interest, something else tobacco companies and voting computer companies very much have in common.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:39 PM
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1. A must read: KICK - Recommend
:kick: Recommend

This is an action we should all take

So the plan is to launch lawsuits to expose this as the illegal and unconstitutional scheme it is, (such as the lawsuit linked to at www.votersunite.org ) and to check out www.velvetrevolution.us and send e-letters there to all nine major voting companies, pledging boycott and divestment actions if they don’t become public-minded in various specific ways.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 12:49 PM
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2. .
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:20 PM
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3. The $$ loops...
"Any attempt to object to trade secrecy or the lack of checks and balances is met with the trade secrecy argument, and the specter of having to pay the voting companies yet again, first for having privatized democracy, and then again for getting part of it back by open sourcing the trade secret code which is then claimed as a 'regulatory taking'." --Land Shark

Another cute kill democracy $$ loop:

Our federal and state tax dollars are funneled through Congress and state election officials into the pockets of the major Bush partisans who run the voting machine companies (chiefly Diebold and ES&S), for purchase of their shoddy, hackable machines and for expensive "servicing" contracts (their means of installing malicious code), and these company officials and owners in turn contribute huge amounts of money to Bush Cartel political campaigns. Nice, huh?

Great article, Land Shark! The contracts are invalid! They CANNOT DO THIS--secretize our elections in private hands. CANNOT!

Thanks for the post, amaryllis!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 01:21 PM
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4. There's a new epithet...
...Democracy Killers!

Corporate news democracy killers!

Bush Cartel democracy killers!

Diebold democracy killers!
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 03:24 PM
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5. SOme powerfull wampum Land shark
Bookmarked and recommended & RE BOOTED
which is like a kick
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 03:26 PM
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6. Kicked, bookmarked and recommended.
Thank you, Amaryllis and Land Shark! And I also have our Andy in mind. This is important information.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 03:29 PM
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7. Andy Stephenson's mantra: VOTER-VERIFIED PAPER BALLOTS!
Not a whole lot of corporate profit in that, but without it there is no democracy. Which is the situation we have now.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 12:48 AM
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25. Plus one more mantra.
Get rid of the machines. That's what Land Shark says.

They were illegal to begin with and, since that's true, they should just be voided altogether.
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Catbird Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 04:13 PM
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8. Arithmetic as a trade secret??
These machines are doing incredibly simple arithmetic, mostly addition. We're not dealing with long division here. You don't even need to get to the end of an introductory programming course to write a simple vote counting program. The user interface and setup for a particular election are somewhat more complicated. You'd have to actually finish the course. Programming a machine to fix an election might require some minimal background in statistics and computer security as well. However, common sense and machine access are probably sufficient.

Maybe the real trade secret is that they can sell voting machines without being able to add correctly.

:sarcasm:
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:15 PM
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9. It's not a computer problem. It's an AUDITING problem. No matter how
the votes are generated and counted there needs to be some sort of partial and FULLY random (or better yet, full) manual auditing system to check the veracity of ANY kind of machine count.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 10:27 AM
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12. Yes! Yes! Yes! Audits.
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 10:11 PM
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10. Also Kicked, bookmarked and recommended.
My favorite excerpt:
"Because the voting machine companies are performing the most central governmental function of all by counting votes, we are well beyond corporate influence on government, or even corporate “control”. The corporations now claim our democracy as their private property."
It is as self evident as the idea that we have no basis for confidence in the results reported from U.S. federal elections as long as elections are held under conditions ensuring inconclusive outcomes. (See the Voter Confidence Resolution)
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LeeB Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 03:52 AM
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11. !
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 11:56 AM
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13.  Good!
Absolutely correct - getting printers on these machines WILL NOT FIX THEM! Their hack-ability and the lack of auditing makes the printers just another feel-good measure, may look like a 'win' but we need to focus on the real solutions.

PAPER PAPER PAPER!!!!

:bounce:
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 09:33 PM
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14. One thing MIT got right: printers only help voters catch 8% of errors n/t
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:22 AM
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16. Link to MIT study:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-05-08-voting-machines_x.htm

The other thing rarely mentioned is how LONG it takes to vote on DREs. Major contributing factor to potetial disfranchisement, long lines.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:23 PM
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18. Exactly -- VVPR law does not a good DRE make---
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 07:46 AM
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15. I don't understand
You say, "The solution is not to aggressively seek new laws". How can the system be changed if we don't get new laws? I must be missing something here.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 03:24 PM
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19. justa quick guess--- use existing law against the infidels
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:00 PM
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20. RIght, use existing laws; some new laws would be fine, but not
if they are just re-arranging the old deck chairs on the DRE Titanic. Need to actually think about election integrity, not just amend the regime to make it less harmful (assuming that even succeeds)

This is one of the oldest games in the book, which starts in adolescence: asking the old man for the car for the entire weekend for a trip up north, then "settling" for the car on Friday night.

Current legislation is trying to arrange a one night stand on democracy, because the voting machine companies start out from the position that they now "own" the counting of the vote.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:15 AM
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26. Secret vote counting (and thus DREs) are ALREADY illegal. If you
start passing new laws to make them "secure" you are just legitimizing an ALREADY illegal process. YOu are playing their game...need to go back a step and say wait a minute, this was never legal in the first place. Void all those illegal contracts.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:46 AM
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27. Or trying to make a silk's purse out of a sow's ear.
My mom always told me not to do that. Maybe yours did too, if your mom grew up rural in the 20th century
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 09:25 AM
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17. I read this first in the Alliance For Democracy newsletter...
Great stuff and the best strategy I've heard so far - and I've been around this issue quite a while.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 12:31 PM
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21. Dear Land Shark,
We need to get the word out about your case.

I'm going to try to approach a group of voting rights attorneys in NY. What can you do to help, assuming they're interested?

What's the single best document with which to get their attention? Is it the one at the top of this thread?

They have been spoken to about this issue, but I'm not sure if they get it or not, or if they know what to do about it. You know they're mostly into poll watching and that sort of thing.

Meanwhile the laws are moving forward, albeit slowly, and the fight for paper ballots in NY has been an uphill battle, privatized or otherwise.

We have determined that HAVA does allow mechanical lever machines to remain, as long as the results are written down on paper. No printers are required for that, as is commonly believed; we have humans doing it all the time with witnesses from both parties. It's perfectly legal, even under HAVA! That's about as "radical" as we've gotten here so far, but I think it's pretty cool.

In fact, if there was a bill passed for VVPATs, lever machines would have to go! Under the same HAVA loophole that allows paperless DREs, the lever machines are also allowed, and they are much harder to hack than DREs.

Anyway, if you'd answer my initial questions, I'd appreciate it.

You are doing amazing work!
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 05:37 PM
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22. HEY LS I brought 10 copies of this letter to a meeting and the folks LOVED
IT---including the former NJ Deputy Attn Gen.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 10:26 PM
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24. So what are they going to do about it Foger?
Buy DREs anyway, right?

(You may have noticed, I'm getting a bit cynical lately.)
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 08:15 PM
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23. kick
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:04 AM
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28. Great article! n/t
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