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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:33 AM
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What happened in NM in 2004?
Really. My Dad and I watched the number switch in REAL TIME that night. What happened? The 'Election Protection' people I was working with told me that the 'touch screen' had been shifted to ??? When the votes were cast? It is Sooooo F'ed up.

I still do not know what happened, and this occurred over a year ago.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:35 AM
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1. Palast was here recently.
John Boyd and a California Lawyer are going to use NM as a tet case given the variety of machines and undervotes among the Native Americans and Blacks.
Google!
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:43 AM
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3. Soo glad to hear it! IT HAS F*ED W/ ME.
How is this story not screaming out???
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LightningFlash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 01:42 AM
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2. The mysterious Ralph Reed/Rove machine happened....
Documented proven touch-screen switching, New Mexico, additional states.

http://www.votersunite.org

Huge percentage of votes switched from Kerry to Bush. It happened so fast, they all spun their heads. (and CNN knew it happened, and quickly changed it)
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 12:32 PM
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4. this person was involved:
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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-07-05 05:31 PM
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5. Didn't counties with optiscan by one manufacturer in NM...
...ALL favor Bush? Even in Dem counties/precincts?
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 02:26 AM
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6. Same as always, the most dependable bellwether state
Always within 3 points of the national popular vote average since '88. We made the mistake of classifying New Mexico as blue based on 3 straight wins from '92 to 2000. But that was always dependent on winning the national preference. Once you start losing nationally by 2.46%, very little chance of tugging a New Mexico or Iowa along with you. New Mexico actually voted 2 points more Democratic, compared to the national average, than it did in 2000.

New Mexico:
'88: Bush (51.86 - 46.90) = + 2.76 Democratic
'92: Clinton (45.90 - 37.34) = + 3.00% Democratic
'96: Clinton (49.18 - 41.86) = + 1.21% Republican
'00: Gore (47.91 - 47.85) = + 0.45% Republican
'04: Bush (49.84 - 49.05) = + 1.67% Democratic
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-08-05 12:40 PM
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7. What's with Bill Richardson, who blockaded the recount?
I get the impression that some Democratic officials are scared pissless of being anthraxed or being Wellstoned (or Clelanded, or Kevin Shelley-ed, or David Kelly-ed), and are colluding with the enemy, and thinking they can maintain their little moated fiefdoms in the states, while the Bush Barbarians run rampant over the land.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:42 PM
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11. Scared or bribed.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:56 AM
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13. Or BOTH. n/t
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:58 PM
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12. if Kerry was elected, Richardson would have to wait until 2012 to run
This way Richardson can jump into the open primary in 2008, instead of battling Edwards in 2012. At least that's what I get if I think like a politician.
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Danish Reporter Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:33 AM
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8. Info needed - questions by pm
Dear Alittlelark

I send you a private message a few days ago concerning NM.

Dear all you other DU'ers:

My name is Bo Elkjaer, I'm a reporter for the danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet. I have written several articles on Ohio, Clinton Curtis, Conyers report, the protest on jan 6 etc etc. I posted on DU a few times - copies of articles etc - around november, december january, so you may remember me.

I'm still researching the US election for a major piece which we plan to publish as soon as possible - although no date has been set yet. (My own interim working title is: "Last call for democracy - uncovering the US presidential election")

Please, I'm very interested in getting as many details of what went wrong - and you all possibly hold important eye-witness descriptions of what went wrong. If interested, get back to me.

Currently and specificly I'm searching for eyewitness descriptions of long waitinglines - if possible even photos - in Ohio on election night.

I'm also trying to establish an accurate timeline of events on election night, among other things to pinpoint the shift in reporting on the outcome.

Yours respectfully

Bo Elkjaer
Denmark
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:34 PM
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9. kick.nt
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 01:58 AM
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14. Video of the lines in Ohio and more
Edited on Tue Jun-14-05 02:00 AM by Carolab
http://www.boingboing.net/2004/11/06/electionday_footage_.html

http://www.metroblogging.com/videothevote/

Bo, have you been reading about "Coingate" in Ohio? And the latest Wayne Madsen report on the Florida investigation into Ray Lemme's death?
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Danish Reporter Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 04:02 PM
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17. Coingate, Downing Street etc
Dear Carolab

Yes, I have been following the Coingate case in Ohio. This could be a major breakthrough in the Ohio investigation. The Toledo Blade is doing a tremendous job on this. This is definately starting to unravel.

I'm in close contact with Wayne Madsen and have been over the years.

Another tremendously important issue - although not related to election fraud - is the Downing Street Minutes - with John Conyers hearing tomorrow thursday.

Over here we had that debate two years ago and noone doubts that the US - and with it the coalition partners - had set their sights on Saddam Hussein long before the war.

I have provided John Conyers with an article I wrote on how the danish minister of foreign affairs Per Stig Moeller was told by secretary of state Colin Powell that the US would go after Saddam Hussein no matter what - that it was a 'matter of strong feelings' for president Bush - and this was told to the danish government in the beginning of july 2002. I wrote that article in october 2003. The article has also been posted at afterdowningstreet.org within the last few days.

In addition you can find some of the articles I wrote in 2003 and 2004 on the decision to go to war with Iraq here: http://www.datashopper.dk/~boo/lies-of-war.pdf
If you follow the link you'll find a raw translation of the second edition of the whitepaper I wrote for my paper Ekstra Bladet. You can find the first edition of the whitepaper in danish - which reads like the swedish chef out of Muppet Show - if you follow this link: http://www.datashopper.dk/~boo/irak/hvidbogen.pdf

I'm deeply impressed by the amounts of signatures on Conyers letter to the White House.

Oh, and I need to say this: I'm equally impressed by all the work done here at DU. I haven't posted for a while, but I read it every day. Documenting the truth is a long haul - but needless to say - it shouldn't be underestimated. Keep it up. Grind on!

I'll be reading up on the links you all have provided and get in touch with Ray Beckerman.

Yours
Bo Elkjaer
Denmark
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 10:37 PM
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18. Thanks Bo. You're great.
We really appreciate your work.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 09:13 PM
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15. I would contact Ray Beckerman with the Ohio Project
RBeckerman@BLHNY.com

He has been working for several months to compile loads of data on what went wrong in Ohio. Im sure he would be happy to accommodate you.
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 11:14 PM
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10. Read this report on NM
Warren Stewart:
"What Are They Hiding in New Mexico?"
National Ballot Integrity Project
January 19, 2005
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0501/S00152.htm

It's very good.

Perhaps you've heard of a few ghost towns in New Mexico. But Warren Stewart, who studied the official vote tallies in detail, brings us news that ghosts apparently turned out to vote in New Mexico in the November election: what is called "phantom votes" cropped up widely in the state. A phantom vote means that there are more votes than there were people who voted. (We saw this in Ohio too. In fact, in Perry Ohio, two precincts there reported turnouts of 124.4 and 124.0 percent of the registered voters!)

In New Mexico, Presidential phantom votes were reported in 15 of the 33 counties. In a county clerk race in one precinct in San Juan County, New Mexico, 318 voters somehow managed to register 2,161 votes. These are official certified votes.

Then, there also what is called "undervotes." In that situation, people show up at the polls, but don't vote. In Taos County, New Mexico, one of the most liberal counties in the nation, nearly one in ten of the voters who took the trouble to show up to vote on election day apparently did not vote for president. That is over twenty times the undervote rate in various other counts around the state.

For more, check out the report.
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 12:27 AM
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16. I heard that the Repubs were paying $400 dollars to go vote
...in place of someone who wasn't going to make it to the polls in New Mexico. The volunteer from California who told me this (a lawyer) said that it all sounded so unreal, except that the reported $ amount was always the same. Maybe for a slew of votes, but certainly not for one vote.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-05 11:39 PM
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19. And read this one:
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