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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:26 PM
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Misinformation in Essex County NJ, AG office--they run elections in NJ
Edited on Fri Jun-17-05 01:19 PM by FogerRox
Read this and email or call the author about the lies.
NJ did pass a law S701 last year that outlaws lever voting manchines.

Heres the full article

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/essex/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1118986410180250.xml&coll=1

PLEASE READ-- and contact this reporter about the inaccuracies.


A state warning to get voting machines
Attorney general urges Essex to reverse vote to forgo update
Friday, June 17, 2005
BY JONATHAN CASIANO
Star-Ledger Staff
The state Attorney General's Office is urging the Essex County
freeholders
to reverse their decision and allocate money to acquire electronic
voting
machines soon, warning that no more waivers or extensions will be
granted.

Federal law requires the replacement of traditional lever or punch-card
voting machines this year. Failure to comply would leave New Jersey
open to
penalties from the Department of Justice, including the possible
revocation
of some of the $81 million in federal funds already doled out to the
state,
said Assistant Attorney General Donna Kelly.

Worse still, without new state- certified machines ready to go, Essex
County
would have no legal way of holding an election come Jan. 1, the
deadline for
new machines mandated by the Help America Vote Act and accompanying
state
statutes.

"Everyone has to move forward to get rid of lever machines as of Jan.
1,
2006, and have a sufficient number of HAVA-compliant machines in place
in
case of a special school board election in January," Kelly said. "There
absolutely and positively can be no waiver on the purchase of
HAVA-compliant
machines."




Jonathan Casiano covers Essex County government. He may be reached at
jcasiano@starledger.com or (973) 622-7421.

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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 12:47 PM
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1. I think EVERY STATE SHOULD JUST REFUSE.
If nobody has them, no one can abuse them, and they will have to go back to paper ballots...
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 01:11 PM
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2. I agree with you.
But the supervisor of elections in my county -- Essex -- is dedicated to buying the Sequoia Advantage, even though technically he admits it is over his head, he's kind of adamant, and not truthful.

So I am suspicious of his motives.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 01:13 PM
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3. can you spell out the lies?
I'm not absolutely clear on them, especially the requirements under HAVA. And if they passed a law about levers, do we really hvae to get rid of them?

Ellen

I sent you an e-mail. I am ready to go visiting.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 02:14 PM
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8. DIS TOr tiOns
Federal law requires the replacement of traditional lever or punch-card voting machines this year.

NO --state law passed as S701 mandates the replacment of Lever machines. NOt Federal law.



Failure to comply would leave New Jersey open to penalties from the Department of Justice, including the possible revocation of some of the $81 million in federal funds already doled out to the state, said Assistant Attorney General Donna Kelly.

TItle 4, section 401 spells out enforcement--it only applys to Title 3, section 301, 302 and 303 -- which only are concerned with handicapped assesablitly. Replacment of Lever machines is in title 1 of HAVA

It's very frustrating that they don't understand what we're telling them," Casciano said of the freeholders. "If we sign a contract in June, Sequoia will start delivering the machines in December. ... We need something in December to start training people. ... I'm very, very concerned."



We have cited to the Freeholders- the statute that exempts NJ from buying VOting eqiup. with a contract---Purchase orders only ---

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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 03:12 PM
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9. So I guess you've provided this to the journo?
Can you tell me how I can find the statutes themselves?

And if the state law mandates replacing levers, is that the same as requiring that they be replaced?

Ellen
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 03:51 PM
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10. yeah it is-- unfortunately-- they snuck this S701 in last year-- DAMn
talked to JOn at ledger about 3pm today
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 01:14 PM
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4. Casiano and Casiano.
Isn't it funny that the reporter and the elections supervisor are both Casianos? Although the ES could be spelled differently.

Casciano? Casiano?

I know it probably doesn't mean anything, just thought it was funny.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 01:21 PM
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6. The reporter is Puerto Rican and the SOE is Italian
ya I know kinna funny---
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 01:15 PM
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5. Do we have an activist elections lawyer?
Can we find one? Someone who can absolutely refute the lies they keep spewing?
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 02:01 PM
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7. LAywer-- O HHH YEAH We got 'em
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