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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:00 AM
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REVOLT AGAINST DIEBOLD IN CALIF! WOW! ACTION THREAD re: June 30!
Here are all the threads on the current California situation. Two vital points...

1. The New American Revolution is in progress in California! Read GuvWorld's and Byronius' reports (below) on the June 16 hearing in Sacto on Diebold and ES&S--packed house, raucus, brilliant, kickass audience of true patriots!!!!

2. COMMENT STILL POSSIBLE THROUGH JUNE 30! Flood the CA Sec of State with your opinion of Diebold and ES&S, contact CA legislators, blast media, write to your lists, tell your friends! (See contact info threads, below.)

VOTING PANEL STILL TAKING PUBLIC COMMENTS (thru 6/30)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x378712

CONTACT INFO FOR CA LEGISLATORS, MEDIA BLASTER and BACKGROUND INFO
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x376696

CONTACT INFO FOR SEC OF STATE & ADVISORY PANEL (VSPP), CONTACT INFO FOR CALIFORNIA ELECTION PROTECTION NETWORK (CEPN), and BACKGROUND INFO
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x375744

BACKGROUND (the original post by Amaryllis)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x374848

"Activists Urge California Not To Use Diebold Machines" (article, The Daily Review, Hayward, CA, 6/17/05)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x378605

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WHAT HAPPENED IN SACRAMENTO TODAY?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x378552

GuvWurld (314 posts)
Fri Jun-17-05 01:34 AM

2. I just got back

I can't write too much right now but here are highlights:

Packed (SRO) with election reformers

Took no shit from a clearly partisan panel chair who opened by trash talking Shelley - I mean audience members shouted him down

First agenda item was Diebold; one after another fabulous speakers gave great testimony in opposition - no one approved; at 12:30 lunch break was called; one-sided public comment then continued until almost 4pm; they really did give everyone who signed up a chance to speak

After a 4pm break they moved to agenda item #2, ES&S; staff reported and then two out-of-town experts got to testify before the hearing was shut down to be continued tomorrow with public comment

They will also have to get through two other agenda items with public comment: Federal Qualification Process Report and Other Business

In response to specific question, the panel members would not say when exactly they would make their decision; they emphasized that public comment will be open for written submission until 6/30.

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byronius (137 posts)
Fri Jun-17-05 01:26 PM

7. Let me briefly sketch my personal highlights.

9AM: I approach a small crowd outside the front of the Secretary of State building. I stand and hold my giant sign, proclaiming 'Massive Voter Fraud', and 'Voter Fraud is Treason', and make eye contact with people passing. Mostly smiles and thumbs-up, some deep grimaces.

10AM: In we go. No signs allowed, except for the cool 'file folder' signs passed out. I sign a speaker card.

The meeting open with Assistant Secretary of State Wood launching a political diatribe (accusing the prior administration of gross mismanagement) that met with outrage from the audience. Shouts of "Don't Even!!" and "Get on with the business!!" erupted. It became apparent to me at that point that the hearing was going to be useless, and that the panel fully intended to certify all machines and ram them down the throats of California. Wood was supercilious, contempuous, and acting like an evil molesting stepfather who relishes the growing complaints of his victim. Sorry, but that's what I saw. Evil.

After the useless beginning stuff came expert testimony. Many obviously well-informed programmers and people with election experience. I thought it was great, informative, and moving -- one in particular: the guy in the flowered shirt proposing that we simply ask the UC Berkley Computer Science department to whip up a little code for the hardware. It was a great idea. Cheap, and using current resources. No wireless parts, no modem transmission. He was so damned right. That guy for Governor.

Public comment after lunch. All of it heartfelt, all of it absolutely the best demonstration of True American Spirit I have seen in a long time. One of my favorites:

--the Really Old Guy: 'I don't trust my government one bit!'

Everyone had something relevant to say. The psychologist who laid it out so clearly: If people can't trust that their vote is counted, then revolution becomes necessary. The guy in the white polo who demanded that Panel member Clark recuse himself because he had personally purchased Diebold machines for Alameda County. He was great; loud, full of truth -- "There is no Free Press in this country!!" The black woman who spoke with a moving voice about how her ancestors had been murdered for trying to vote -- "I will never give up!" I was on my feet, shouting "Never!". The many, many voices of reason -- Registrars, former election organizers, citizens -- it was great.

Bev Harris and her investigator spoke. We were all limited to two minutes, and were prohibited from lending our minutes to others by a last-minute procedural crime, typically Republican behavior. Someone tried -- Wood would have none of it. Weasel in a suit. Damn.

When my turn came, I talked about a sticker I had seen, "Five Million Fake Votes". I tried to speak to their hearts, as a patriotic American -- but they couldn't hear me through the flameproof suits.

Later, another expert witness, who identified herself as such and spoke eloquently about past investigations was interrupted by Wood, who apparently did not like her message and attempted to reclassify her status down to public comment (two minutes) in the middle of her presentation. She bravely refused; Wood tried to talk her down. She again refused, and they called in security. When one security guard walked towards her, the crowd rose as one -- "DON'T YOU DARE!!" and "LET HER SPEAK!!". He backed off, and they allowed her to finish. I believe that if the security guard had touched her, we would have stormed the stage. I've never been part of civil violence in the Cause of American Justice before. I have to admit -- I was ready.

That's about it. Wood had to hold the hearing by law, but I'm certain that not a word was heard by these ur-people. I was looking at the heart of the beast. I'm afraid California may be doomed. We must throw these criminals out of office, and drive them back under the rocks from which they came. I witnessed The Gangster at work. Damn them to hell. May they all experience Instant Karma.

Anyway. I'm glad I was there.

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Profound thanks to GuvWorld and Byronius for these reports!
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:06 AM
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1. Kick for CA
Those bastards wanna turn CA red by hook and by crook.

That is the only reason Arnold is in office, IMHO. To slip in a GOP Sec. of State and slam in Diebold-type PC voting systems.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:12 AM
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2. DUers, please recommend this for the Greatest Page! It combines all...
...the current California threads. MASSIVE ACTION IS NEEDED NOW through June 30 TO PROTEST this Bush Cartel assault on California via Diebold and ES&S. I notice that the new deadline for public comment on these election theft systems in California is the same date as the private, phony Carter-Baker 'National Commission on Election Reform,' June 30 in Houston. Coordination? Could the REAL election forum in Houston--ours--that is being planned for June 29, circulate a petition, or send a group letter, or at least have a speaker about the California developments?

I will find the Houston forum and post a link here, and I'll let them know what's going on.

A BARRAGE of letters and pressure is needed! STOP DIEBOLD & ES&S in California NOW!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:28 AM
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5. Here's the thread on our Houston hearing (June 29):
"EAH: Election Assessment Hearing PRESS ANNOUNCEMENT"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x376662

I posted a message to Kip there.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:41 AM
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9. Heaven help us if we lose California to voting fraud
Nominated. Push this up on Greatest, folks.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:21 AM
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3. Thanks for the report!
If California falls, the nation falls.

On the other hand, if California revolts, the nation will follow.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:39 AM
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7. YUP! You're right, NV Whino! And THAT'S what's happening!
I can't tell you how heartening these reports of the VSPP meeting are! Sacto is very hard to get to, for most people. This is BIG state. It would be like New Yorkers having to go to Florida for a public hearing. To pack a hearing of one of these obscure CA state commisions that skulk around Sacto is AMAZING! It is great news! Californians are getting the message and boy, are they mad!

Now we need help to trumpet this news outside of the news monopoly blackhole, to all who haven't heard of it, to further mobilize Californians, and to get national support to pressure these evildoers to back down on their plans to steal California elections!

Kudos to the California Election Protection Network (many groups) for this hugely important action at the June 16 Sacto meeting!
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:28 AM
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4. a repeat of this
is desperately needed in Ohio too. nominated.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:28 AM
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6. california dems in the legislature are cowards and sell outs.....
they voted to put a republican in place of democrat as secretary of state....betraying the state's democrat voters and putting the power to cheat in the hands of arnold's thugs.

the dems do not give a shit in hell about election fraud or vote theft.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm




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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:46 AM
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11. msongs, you are often a bit too quick with the downer comments.
When are we going to realize that our Democratic officials are only as good as the pressure that we vigilantly exert upon them?

In other words, they are only as good as we are good at defending our democracy. If they are cowards and sell outs, it is largely because we have allowed them to be.

I agree with you, msongs, but SO WHAT? What do we DO about it NOW? Weep and complain over their cowardice and corruption? Or show them the way? (OR SHOW THEM THE DOOR!).
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:40 AM
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8. Kick
Thanks! My letters will go out.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:44 AM
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Wow! Sounds VERY encouraging -
And Wood has to realize that not all citizens are sheeple. THIS is democracy in action! :yourock:
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:44 AM
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10. kick
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:52 AM
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12. Great! We can't loose CA are we are all Chennyed
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:55 AM
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13. thank you for the report - I would never have known otherwise

reading your report kept me on the edge of my seat with excitement
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:06 AM
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14. nominated! thanks for the update! n/t
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:19 AM
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15. An important thread that got missed - Open Voting SoCal Tour in June!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x378457

LaraOVC (50 posts)
Thu Jun-16-05 02:58 PM


Open Voting Southern California Tour!

***Please forward this message to your political group email lists, friends/family, etc and post the information to calendars, blogs, and forums. Help spread the word about the need for election reform and open voting!******

Below is the final schedule for the Open Voting Southern California Tour. Many of these events include a live demonstration of the open voting system as well as movie showings, information abou Bob Fitrakis's book, etc! We hope to see you at some of these events!

If you are interested in organizing an event for an Open Voting Tour in your area, please contact Lara Shaffer at lara@openvoting.org (831-419-0758). Plans are in motion for a late summer or early fall Bay Area, Northern California, and Pacific Northwest tour that may include Bob Fitrakis (author and political speaker) and Penny Little (director/producer of the movie Electile Dysfunction).

Election Reform Southern California Tour Information
---------------------------------------------

(...the first two already took place...)

Bob Fitrakis Book Tour, OVC, and Electile Dysfunction Movie Showing
Ventura
Wednesday, June 16, 8pm
Franky's Restaurant, 456 East Main Street
Cost: $5 (suggested donation)
Event contact info: Helen Conly, conlyhelen@yahoo.com, 805 746-0199

Bob Fitrakis Book Tour
Topanga (Los Angeles area)
Friday, June 17, 7pm
Topanga Christian Fellowship Church, 269 Old Topanga Canyon Road
Cost: Free (donations gladly accepted)
Event contact info: Rain Cater, nayarain2@mac.com, 310-455-0166, 310-570-3254 (cell)
(Lara Shaffer from Open Voting will not be there, but Open Voting will be discussed)

(...BUT NOTE, upcoming...)

Bob Fitrakis Book Tour, Open Voting, and other Voting Rights Activists
San Diego
Saturday, June 18, (...TODAY!!!)
Location: First Church of the Brethren, 3850 Westgate Place
Time: 7pm
Cost: $3-5 (suggested donation)
Event contact info: Martin Eder, Activist San Diego, activist@cox.net, 619-528-8383

Bob Fitrakis Book Tour, Election Reform Movie Compilation, Open Voting, Brad Blog, and Citizen's Act
Santa Monica (Los Angeles area)
Sunday, June 19, 6pm (book signing), 7pm (speeches), 8:30pm (movie showing) (...TOMORROW!!!)
Venice United Methodist Church, 1020 Victoria Ave. (Victoria and Lincoln)
Cost: $10 (fathers get in free, no one turned away due to lack of funds)
Event contact info: Sheri Myers, blindhug@yahoo.com, 310-390-8141

How to Make Your Vote Count: A Presentation of the Open Voting System
San Diego
Tuesday, June 21, 7pm
Joyce Beers Uptown Community Center, 3900 Vermont Street
Cost: Free (donations gladly accepted)
Event contact info: John Falchi, pacerjp14@sbcglobal.net, 619-222-6036

Lara Shaffer Presents the Open Voting System
and Robert Cohen Presents the Votergate Movie
Costa Mesa (Los Angeles area)
Wednesday, June 22, 7pm
Orange Coast Unitarian Universalist Church, 1259 Victoria Street
Cost: free (donations gladly accepted!)
Event contact info: Susan Rathman, s.rathman@earthlink.net, 714-655-6322

Lara Shaffer Demonstrates the Open Voting System
Long Beach (Los Angeles area)
Thursday, June 23, 7pm
Viento Y Agua Cafe, 4007 E. 4th Street
Cost: Free (donations gladly accepted!)
Event contact info: Gabrielle Weeks, gabrielle@toughguy.net, 562-252-4196

Open Voting: The Solution to Electile Dysfunction and Votergate
Solando Beach (San Diego area)
Friday, June 24, 6:30pm-9:30pm
San Diego Credit Union, 501 North El Camino Real
Cost: Free (donations gladly accepted!)
Event contact info: Charles Stidd, cstidd@nick.net, 858-481-5286

Defending Democracy A Government Reform and Accountability Conference with Common Cause
San Diego
Saturday, June 25
Time: 9am-5pm (conference), 5:30pm-7pm (reception), 7pm-9pm, John Conyers (invited)
Location: First Unitarian Universalist Church, 4190 Front Street, Hillcrest
Cost: $20 registration fee
Event contact info Amy Temple, lynwildwood@yahoo.com, 213-252-4552, www.commoncause.org/defendingdemocracyforum

Election Reform Forum (Open Voting Consortium, Black Box Voting, California Clean Money, California Election Protection Network, and Votergate)
Los Angeles
Sunday, June 26
Time: 1-5pm
Location: Neighborhood Unitarian Church, 301 North Orange Grove Blvd
Cost: $5
Event contact info: Matthew Tiffany, iinidieas@yahoo.com, 626-353-0189
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:30 AM
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16. A GuvWorld CA post that should've been listed above...
"Press Release: VCC Calls For Rejection of CA Special Election" Results (Humboldt voter protection group)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x378242

Californians in revolt!!!
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:10 PM
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45. kick
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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:32 AM
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17. NEXT TIME PLEASE SAY MASSIVE ELECTION FRAUD
Voter fraud is what the Rethugs are selling ie massive numbers of illegal Dem voters. PLEASE don't help them!

Thanks
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:36 PM
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18. What a great and noble fight!
You are inspiring to me, where in Georgia all our citizens have LOST OUR RIGHT TO VOTE because the state and our democratic Secretary of State Cathy Cox, may her days in public service be soon ending, gave Diebold TOTAL CONTROL OVER OUR ELECTIONS and at every pass and turn, sided with Diebold over the citizens of Georgia and over democracy for her own sad and pathetic personal ambitions.

We've got the same corrupt Dems here as you have there but your battle to beat back these pirates and thieves and crooks and war profiteers and TRAITORS is even more vital to the nation because of the number of electoral votes you have.

We're rooting for you every step of the way.

Sorry for all the caps, but after reading of your fight I just feel like yelling from the rooftops: We're mad as hell and we're not going to take it any more.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:49 PM
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19. Hear, hear! Cookie wookie! FIGHT BACK! No matter what! No matter if...
...it seems hopeless! We MUST fight this at every turn, and never give up!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 01:00 PM
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20. Please be advised that the following DU election thread on the situation
in California contains wrong and misleading information--and its subject line gives the entirely wrong impression of the status of our fight against Diebold's and ES&S's election theft machines:

"Diebold has been STOPPED in California!!! Congratulations" (by LightningFlash)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x378768

This thread may hamper efforts to achieve the citizen mobilization needed to stop Diebold and ES&S, the Bush Cartel and Schwarzenegger in their intended fascist coup in California. We need the support of Californians and of the nation to stop them. The fight is not over BY ANY MEANS. In fact, it's VERY LIKELY that we will have Diebold and ES&S DREs for Schwharz's "special election" this November.

What happened on June 16 was a critically important citizen revolt at the June 16 hearing. WE DID NOT YET WIN THE BATTLE, and the odds are stacked against us. The VSPP merely postponed a decision, and is taking more public comment. This is VERY LIKELY a bureaucratic maneuver to make the decision later, out of public view.

It is extremely important that people understand this!

We need an OUTPOURING of California and national public comment--to the Sec of State, the media and to CA legislators and others before June 30!
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 01:09 PM
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21. Recommend!
Excellent work. Democracy lives in CA! Too bad the whole state is apparently about to fall into the sea. ;^)
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 01:49 PM
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22. Rivoting! You Gotta Fight those Evil Powers!
Know how you feel. Have faced them myself and will again, very, very soon. It's not a joke. When 1 faces these "powers" in-person, up-front and personal (not on the tube-it's different) you can feel the overwhelming "EVILNESS," heavy in the air.

Think of that movie, "Something Wicked This Way Comes..." I say, "Something Wicked Is Here." And it is...

Good luck. If CA looses, there is NO CHANCE for the rest of us.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 02:38 PM
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23. Kick for letters and pressure! Deadline to Sec of State June 30! n/t
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 02:44 PM
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24. What about a goddamned INITIATIVE?
It is the only remedy
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 03:07 PM
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25. Excellent letter and contact info. at the following thread...
"Action Alert: Save CA Election Integrity" (by Liberty Belle)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x378819

Sample letter from Miriam Raftery (of California Election Protection Network-CEPN):

Dear _____:

I am writing in regard to the VSPP hearings held June 16th on election equipment. It is imperative that no Diebold or other partisan-owned election equipment be allowed in California! We can’t trust Diebold, ES&S etc. anymore than we can trust Enron. Citizens and elected officials must not tolerate VSPP panelists with conflicts of interest (such as a panelist who has lobbied for Diebold and another who is a major Schwarzenegger fundraiser) or who hold vested interests in voting systems.

We must have voter-verified paper ballots as the ballots of record, counted in every precinct with hefty compulsory audits in each precinct. Not one penny of HAVA (Help America Vote Act) money should be spent on proprietary vote-counting systems, which can be hacked and changed by a chimpanzee! A better use of HAVA funds would be to fund development of an open-source software, secure voting system through the University of California, using a voter-verified paper ballot.

Free and fair elections are crucial to a democracy. Please stand up for our rights to have every vote counted accurately!


Sincerely:

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She recommends sending such a letter to the CA Secretary of State, with copies to the Elections Committee for the CA Legislature (see below), and (for Californians) to your own State Senator and State Assembly representative, so that the Secretary of State will know that his actions cannot be hidden from public scrutiny.

Contacts:

Secretary of State Bruce McPherson, 1500 11th St., Sacramento, CA 95814, (916)653-6814

The Elections Committee of the CA Legislature:

Senator Debra Bowen, State Capitol, Room 4040, Sacramento, CA 95814, Voice: (916)
445-5953, Fax: (916) 323-6056 Senator.Bowen@sen.ca.gov
Senator Jim Battin (Vice-Chair), State Capitol, Room 3067, Sacramento, CA 95814, Phone:
(916) 445-5581, Fax: (916) 327-2187 jim.battin@sen.ca.gov
Senator Joseph Dunn, State Capitol, Room 2080, Sacramento CA 95814, (916)
445-5831, Fax: (714) 705-1586 Senator.Dunn@sen.ca.gov
Senator Kevin Murray, State Capitol, Room 5050, Sacramento, CA 95814, (916)
445-8800, Fax (916) 445-8899 Senator.Murray@sen.ca.gov
Senator Charles Poochigian, State Capitol, Room 5087, Sacramento, CA 95814, Phone:
(916) 445-9600, Fax: (916) 327-3523 Senator.Poochigian@sen.ca.gov
Senator Gloria Romero, State Capitol, Room 313, Sacramento, CA 95814, (916)
445-1418, Fax (916) 445-0485 Senator.Romero@sen.ca.gov

_____

I will post some more contact info for Sec of State (fax, email) and others, below.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 03:25 PM
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26. Some additional contact info.:
The VSPP agenda on Diebold and ES&S is here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x375744

I don't have the VSPP staff report (anyone have that url handy?)--but I heard that it was not favorable to Diebold and ES&S (confirmation?).

Send written comments on the above agenda (adoption of the latest election theft machines from Diebold and ES&S), and, if you wish, on other issues (Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia and other optiscans and vote tabulators, already in use in CA; on secret, proprietary programming code and insecure, hackable systems, from ANY company; etc.), to:

California Secretary of State Bruce McPherson
and the Voting Systems and Procedures Panel (VSPP)
Attn. Bruce McDannold (public contact officer for the VSPP)
FAX (916) 653-3214 - Tel. (916) 657-2166,
1500 11th St, 5th Floor, Sacramento, CA 95814
email to: Bruce McDannold at bmcdanno@ss.ca.gov

(VSPP public comment letters for June 16 were emailable to Bruce McDannold, above, but, a) I'm told there was NO official record of letters submitted, and b) I don't know if letters sent NOW to the Sec of State or VSPP are emailable--to be safe, use fax.

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California Election Protection Network contacts:

Marc Keenberg: hiway61abe@hotmail.com
Sherry Healy: sherry@califelectprotect.net

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Media Blaster (it's easy to use) at
http://www.independentmediasource.com/voteintegrity2_12.htm

Also contact local radio stations and newspapers, especially in CA.

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CA legislators:

CA Assembly direct email links:
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset7text.htm

CA Senate and Assembly fax nos. & links to web sites:
http://www.cawa.org/legcont.htm

Senate EMAILS:
http://www.sen.ca.gov/~newsen/senators/senemail.htp

(both Dem and Repub, not sorted--and a few don't have email:)

Senator.Aanestad@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Ackerman@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Alarcón@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Alquist@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Ashburn@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Battin@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Bowen@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Campbell@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Cedillo@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Chesbro@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Cox@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Denham@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Ducheny@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Dunn@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Dutton@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Escutia@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Figueroa@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Florez@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Hollingsworth@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Kehoe@sen.ca.gov

Senator.Kuehl@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Lowenthal@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Machado@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Maldonado@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Margett@sen.ca.gov
Senator.McClintock@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Migden@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Morrow@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Murray@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Ortiz@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Perata@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Poochigian@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Romero@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Runner@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Scott@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Simitian@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Soto@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Speier@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Torlakson@sen.ca.gov
Senator.Vincent@sen.ca.gov

Some CA Senators don't have public email addresses. Go to Senate web pages:
http://www.sen.ca.gov/~newsen/senators/senators.htp
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 05:16 PM
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27. Kick for June 30 deadline! n/t
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 09:54 PM
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28. Kick! That other thread today says we're "stopped" Diebold in California,
so maybe this action thread is falling on blind eyes. But I assure you that we have not "stopped" Diebold in California, and that now is the time for maximum pressure to be placed on CA state officials. Please answer this call for action!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 11:42 PM
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37. We need to remember ES&S is the bigger company. I think Diebold
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 11:46 PM by shance
being made the scapegoat allows for the two other equally if not bigger problems to slip underneath the radar.

ES&S is the larger company which at this point has been allowed through the bogus HAVA to have access to the majority of our voting data, which should concern every American.

They both, along with Sequoia, need to be stopped in their tracks especially in terms of coming NEAR our counties with their voting machines. I know Im singing to the choir, and a terrific one at that*

I am very siked to hear of such an energetic, empassioned meeting. Thank you for the important info.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:44 AM
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38. Thankfully, the mods locked that very misinforming thread.
Thanks, mods! :thumbsup:
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 10:40 PM
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29. Please Someone, See That Howard Dean Sees a Copy of This...
It is important that he knows of the power of the people in that room with you.
Dean will love this and can use this as an example of the power that is out here.
He and all those who fight at the grassroots level can follow California in the new American revolution to take back our Nation.

Thank You
Thank You
Please send this info to Dean..
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:33 AM
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30. Thank you very much
Them people are just lucky Sacramento is in Sacramento and not any closer to So.Cal. :mad:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:44 PM
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41. Yes, nolablels, as I've said before, think of a New Yorker having to
go to Florida for a public meeting. That's how hard it is for most Californians to attend public meetings in Sacramento--a 6 to 10 hour drive for most of us (one way!). It's a whopping BIG state! All the more fabulous that hundreds of people attended this VSPP hearing and packed the auditorium in Sacto!!! And many of them spoke for the first time in their lives at a public meeting--along with numerous experts and knowledgeable activists. What a great event it was!

These obscure gov't committees skulk around Sacto doing the public business (supposedly) largely out of view of the public. I'm familiar with some of them, and their doings stink to high heaven. This Schwarz/Bush Cartel-appointed VSPP appears to be one of the worst of a bad breed of corporate-run gov't panels and committees.

I doubt if they'll have another VSPP meeting on this matter. They blatantly tried to limit public comment on June 16. People were patient and followed the rules until Panel Chair Wood got out of line, and tried to shut down expert public testimony--the aroused audience of citizens stopped him from doing that! They failed to publish the staff report until AFTER the deadline for written public comment. Wood STARTED the meeting by bad-mouthing Kevin Shelley--and was booed for it by the audience. They were forced by procedural rules to permit extended public comment (to June 30).

They'll likely pull the matter behind closed doors. That seems to be the plan. Schwarz appointee as Sec of State, Bruce McPherson, seems set to make this decision on his own--to certify these election theft machines. He will likely ignore the volumes of public comment against it. HOWEVER, that comment is VITAL--to convince the good people in gov't to take action, and to support their efforts; to educate the good public officials and other citizens; to lay the groundwork for lawsuits; and to agitate, agitate, AGITATE until we've gotten rid of this corrupt election system!!!

And the only opportunity to directly protest and to directly shine a spotlight on this corrupt scene in California, is,

a) a flood of letters to McPherson and the VSPP before June 30;

b) a flood of letters to CA legislators, especially the Dems, to get off their butts on this matter and DO something about it (and they can start by cleaning their own house of corrupt Dem election officials at the county level!); and

c) a flood of alerts, LTE's, call-in's and what-all to MEDIA, both alternative and monopolist.

THIS IS IT. California democracy is going up or down, on this decision--at least for the immediate future. If it's "down"--a likely prospect--we must not give up; we must keep fighting until we win this.

That's all there is to it. We MUST win this in the end.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 09:24 AM
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31. Here's WHY this McPherson VSPP Chair savaged Kevin Shelley...
(Although the Sacto Bee op-ed writer, below, fails to grasp the 'black ops'/secret dossier nature of the destruction of former Sec of State Kevin Shelley, he nevertheless identifies the many ways that Shelley was DOING HIS JOB, and why the Bush Cartel voting machine companies and the CA county election officials that it has corrupted were determined to get rid of him. And THIS is why the Schwarz-appointed Sec of State Bruce McPherson and his shill, William Wood, detest and revile Shelley--and why Wood was moved to trash Shelley (who, of course, was not there--he's long gone) at the June 16 VSPP hearing: THEY DON'T LIKE THE EXAMPLE OF A SECRETARY OF STATE ACTING IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST!!!!)

___________________________________________________

"Voting Regulation Must be Vital to Secretary of State

"By Steven Hill, Irvine Senior Fellow

"Sacramento Bee, March 17, 2005

"California is about to hire a new secretary of state. If former state Sen. Bruce McPherson is confirmed by the Legislature, which seems likely, he will have to decide whether to continue reforms to California's election practices begun by his predecessor, Kevin Shelley.

"His decisions will be crucial to the future of California's elections.

"Just because Shelley's administration imploded in a cloud of controversy does not mean all its programs were flawed. For instance, Shelley cracked down on the revolving door between the voting equipment industry and government, stopping his staff from working for those they had regulated.

"Shelley mandated a voter-verified paper trail for all election equipment, so each voter could confirm their vote via a paper receipt like you receive from an ATM machine. He initiated random field testing on Election Day to ensure proper performance of individual voting machines.

"But his biggest reform was revamping a regulatory regime that previously had been characterized by lax standards, arbitrary enforcement and a troubling lack of oversight of local election officials.

"The secretary of state's office oversees a little-known appointed body called the Voting Systems and Procedures Panel. This VSPP is charged with managing the certification of voting equipment, not only software and hardware but also detailed election administration procedures, including testing of the equipment and procedures. They are supposed to ensure that election equipment functions accurately and securely.

"In past years, the certification process was arbitrarily applied and lacked consistent standards. This fostered a lax atmosphere that signaled to companies like Diebold that they could insert software into their computerized touchscreen equipment that had never gone through proper testing.

"When Diebold was caught doing this by the Shelley administration, the company responded that it was just a software upgrade. While perhaps true, it was still unsettling, and, as Shelley alleged, possibly illegal. In Los Angeles County, election officials developed their own voting equipment, the InkaVote, whose components have never been tested by federal authorities. A statewide audit revealed similar problems in many other counties.

"Shelley attempted to crack down on these practices. But he met with a great deal of resistance, not only from companies such as Diebold but also from county election chiefs. The latter, led by their lobbying arm the California Association of Clerks and Elected Officials (CACEO), even threatened to sue Shelley over some of his mandates. One county elections chief was quoted saying, 'We don't need any cowboys' from the secretary's office interfering in elections. Others protested, "But this is how we've always done things.

"Election officials deserve great sympathy, as they have a tough job. And certainly there are outstanding election officials in California. But there also are too many who regard state oversight as an invasion of their fiefdom.

"Now county election officials have mounted their latest lobbying effort - to overturn Shelley's mandate for a voter-verified paper trail. There is something troubling about county election officials having a lobbying agenda focused on elections policy rather than operations efficiency. They are supposed to implement the laws, not decide which ones to ignore.

"The words 'special interest' have been overused lately, but election officials in California have become one. And that's not how it's supposed to be.

"As secretary of state, Bruce McPherson should press forward with an agenda that safeguards the security and integrity of our elections. He should:

"Continue to crack down on the revolving door between the industry and regulators.

"Continue requiring a voter-verified paper trail for voting equipment.

"Run his own office as nonpartisan as possible.

"Continue oversight of local election officials.

"Forbid local election officials from lobbying for changes to elections policy.

"Make sure that the Voting Systems and Procedures Panel continues to have qualified appointees and staff and adequate resources.

"Finally, McPherson should make his office a vehicle for reconnecting voters to their elected representatives. He should explore ways to increase voter turnout and make elections competitive; strengthen voter registration laws that will lead to cleaner and more complete voter rolls; ensure that all voting equipment in California can handle innovative methods like ranked ballots used with instant runoff voting; and reform our broken political primary system. He should engage the public by establishing a citizens' task force that holds statewide hearings about these issues.

"Confidence in our elections is a fundamental cornerstone of our democracy.

"The incoming secretary of state should continue modernizing our elections practices, no matter how unpopular it might be with the elections industry and some local election officials."

Copyright: 2005 Sacramento Bee
http://www.newamerica.net/index.cfm?pg=article&DocID=2281

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This Sacto Bee op-ed writer doesn't seem to understand that THERE WILL BE NO MORE CRACKING DOWN ON "REVOLVING DOOR" EMPLOYMENT, NO MORE VERIFIABLE ELECTIONS, NO MORE OVERSIGHT OF PRIVATE VOTING MACHINE COMPANIES AND COUNTY ELECTION OFFICIALS, NO MORE NON-PARTISANSHIP, and NO MORE PUBLIC INTEREST REFORMS, now that Shelley has been destroyed. These are the things that corrupt and criminal voting machine companies and corrupt county election officials WANTED TO GET RID OF. WANTED TO STOP. ACTED TO STOP.

The Bee is a corporate lapdog, and this op-ed piece above is a whitewash--an effort to make it appear that this deliberate destruction of Shelley will be okay if only McPherson continues acting like Shelley (i.e., acting in the public interest). There is no chance that that will happen. McPherson is beholden to Schwarzenegger and the Bushites, not to the people.

The Bee article does NOT point this out. Still, the article is revealing of the things that we have lost in California, in losing Shelley. And it gives us vital clues as to why William Wood trashed Shelley at the June 16 hearing, and what Bush Cartel-appointed Bruce McPherson intends NOT TO DO. He was not elected and he will NOT BE DOING HIS JOB in the interest of the people of California.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 02:02 PM
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32. kick.nt
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 06:46 PM
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33. Kick! n/t
:kick:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 08:23 PM
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34. Here's another excellent and detailed report of June 16 that was posted at
one of the other June 16 threads:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x378552#378567

This post explains how we got 30 more days for written public comment, the different tricks that the VSPP used to try to shut down independent expert testimony, some of the rotten bureucratic manuevering that is going on, the Bushite partisanship of the VSPP (a new slap in the face to California from the Bush Cartel--having a partisan elections panel!), and good detail on Diebold election theft machines.

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"rightfoot (21 posts)
Fri Jun-17-05 05:53 PM

"11. Report on Sacramento hearing -- serious stuff going on

"This is the report on the June 16 meeting from BBV
http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-auth.cgi?...

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"The growing split between government and taxpayers was evidenced at the California voting systems hearing on June 16. There were many first timers at the public hearing, a sign of revival for our Democracy. Hundreds of ordinary citizens filled the generous-sized auditorium to standing room only. Connie McCormack, Los Angeles County Registrar of Elections, and Deborah Hench, San Joaquin County Registrar, showed up to chastise taxpayers (McCormack) and praise Diebold (Hench).

"Partisanship problems

"The meeting got off to a contentious start when the assistant secretary of state began with a political statement attacking former Secretary of State Kevin Shelley. The crowd shouted at him, waving their agendas, and several citizens expressed outrage at this attempt to turn a nonpartisan voting system meeting into a partisan speechmaking opportunity.

"Gamesmanship to reduce expert testimony

"New California Secretary of State Bruce McPherson committed several procedural gaffs. His department announced that the expert testimony provision normally followed under public meetings law would not be allowed, and he also changed the public meeting procedures to prohibit "time waiving" to allow citizens to give their own speaking time to experts or others.

"This 'no expert testimony' rule was reversed just before the hearing opened, too late for experts to rearrange their schedules in order to attend and make presentations. Panel members began the meeting 30 minutes late and then, after finally allowing experts to speak, chided them for taking too long to speak, urging the last-minute and hastily assembled experts to finish before lunch.

"Even though we knew that the panel intended to block expert testimony, Black Box Voting brought expert Harri Hursti over from Finland to deliver his devastating presentation to the panel.

"Hursti testimony derails Diebold security claims

"Hursti did no speechmaking, simply stuck to the facts, which leave no doubt that Diebold built a stunning tamper-friendly design into their voting system. This mind-boggling design -- which Diebold does not seem to consider to be a "flaw," but rather, an intended architecture -- sacrifices security for "flexibility." (Read: Tamperability.)

"Hursti's no-nonsense testimony, while heavy going for the crowd, was put into the record in such a way as to invoke a fiduciary duty on the California officials to take it seriously or take the consequences.

"Hursti was surprised, upon reading the release notes for the new 1.96 series optical scan machine, that the newer versions are even less secure, making it easier to get into the memory card without inside access.

"Recent testing by Black Box Voting and Hursti, proved that Diebold optical scan systems use a simply appalling mechanism which makes vote tampering relatively easy to do, yet very difficult to detect. This design is so obviously inappropriate that it should never should have been certified. It's ITA seal of approval and NASED certification indicates that the "experts" are either slipshod or not very expert.

"The California voting systems panel asked not a single question of Hursti.

"The Diebold damage control man, Marvin Singleton, who works for Public Strategies, a public relations firm handling crisis management PR for Diebold, seemed more interested than the VSPP panel in finding out what Hursti might know. He peered over Hursti's shoulder to look at Hursti's communication device, and tried to engage him in conversation.

"California technical expert David Jefferson is no longer on the panel, but is now in the background on an advisory panel. We hold out some hope that, now that he is aware just how crippling the design is to voter integrity, he will perhaps step up to the plate and inform California officials that they must not use this system again. We will watch what he does, after the technical report comes out.

"Citizen courage

"Dozens of citizens spoke, many prefacing their statements with admissions that they hate doing public speaking, but feel the issue is too important to stay silent on.

"Diebold, by the way, pretty much left the building after the first two hours. They sent few representatives and those individuals seemed uninterested in hearing any public remarks.

"More BBV testimony

"Kathleen Wynne testified about Diebold's habit of paying large sums to grease the procurement railroad, pointing to Cook County's Juan Andrade's $20,000 per month paycheck from Diebold, for lobbying which he has failed to file disclosure documents on.

"Bev Harris testified very briefly, trying to salvage the two minutes alloted to her while working around repeated interruptions from the panel. Her testimony went about like this:

'Voting is a public trust. Therefore, the ethics of any vendor purporting to sell a trusted voting system must be examined. What must be examined here is what Diebold Inc. knew, and when-

"(Interruption from the panel)

'In 2001, Diebold Inc. made an offer to acquire Global Election Systems. Soon after this offer, the purchase price offered by Diebold appeared to have been heavily discounted -- 25 percent, then another 25 percent, then 50 percent. It appears that Diebold acquired Global almost for free. What was happening while all this discounting was taking place?

'Typically what happens is that due diligence takes place. During due diligence, for a company making products with software, there is an examination of the software by an outside expert. Now, it becomes very important to know what Diebold knew and when, in order to determine whether California should do business with this company at all.

'There are only three possibilities:

'(1) Diebold did not do due diligence on the software. If this is the case, the company is negligent and California should not do business with it-

"(Interruption from the panel)

'(2) Or, Diebold did due diligence-

"(Interruption from the panel)

'(2) Or, Diebold did due diligence, found the design flaws, but chose to sell the products anyway. If this is the case, the company is negligent and California should not do business with it.

'(3) Or, Diebold found the design flaws, and wanted them in there. If this is the case, California must not do business with this company.'

"Jim March shot a heads up to the panel, listing problem after problem that had been proven with Diebold. He ended with a question on the odds -- 'we are not going to stop looking into this,' he said. 'and if you certify, you are betting that Diebold will never lose a single round with us.' All it takes is ONE investigation dealing a knockout punch, and Diebold Election Systems will be gone.

"Committing taxpayer money on Diebold may not turn out to be a good bet.

"(side note): When one government official placed a request to have Black Box Voting board member Jim March's motorcycle towed, another official pulled him out of the meeting to rescue his cycle. Perhaps what was objected to was not its parking, but its freedom of speech: On March's motocycle, paid for with the proceeds of a Diebold Qui Tam (false claims lawsuit), are the words 'Paid for by LieBold.'

"More procedural problems

"Another gaff committed by the California government was this: The report from California on new systems must come out within 30 days after examining the system. They examined the new systems on April 1, making May 1 the deadline for their report. However, they did not publish the report until June 10 -- one day AFTER the deadline for written public comment, which was June 9. This problem was caught by Black Box Voting board member Jim March.

"At the meeting June 16, the deadline for written public comment was extended until the end of the month. Therefore, the Black Box report (technical report on memory card tamperability) will get into the public record.

"In addition, Jim March and Bev Harris submitted formal requests invoking a California statute to require a special examination of all memory card programming for all Diebold voting systems, touch-screen and optical scan, old and new, in the state of California.

"The history of the memory card vulnerability is interesting. A source code review seems to indicate that this problem was created about the time that Bob Urosevich moved to Global Election Systems. Urosevich had earlier co-founded Election Systems & Software. March and Harris have also requested a formal California review of the ES&S memory card structure.

"Restructuring?

"There seems to be some scurrying around in the background to restructure the California Voting Systems and Procedures Panel. The panel did not vote at the public meeting, withholding their votes until later. It is unclear whether Secretary of State McPherson will be taking more control personally, or whether there will be another public meeting for the VSPP vote.

"It has become clear that the certification and approval process is either incompetent or a sham, and ordinary citizens are standing up to be counted.

"A growing disconnect between the citizenry and their government

"Theme for the government and vendor: Recertify a slew of new Diebold products. Theme from the citizenry: Decertify Diebold and invoke the California law banning Diebold from doing business in the state for three years.

"Many citizens expressed astonishment that Diebold is even allowed to bid in California nowadays. California officials didn't do their job to decertify this stuff in the first place -- either because they lacked the skill to understand the design flaws, lacked the integrity to take action, or lacked the courage to resist political pressure.

"When public officials ignore evidence, give the public two minutes to speak (while granting for-profit vendors hours in private behind closed doors); when public officials steamroll ahead with decisions to certify products from a company with a history of ethics violations -- when public officials do this despite the efforts of those who pay their salaries, then force THE PEOPLE to foot the bill for something we don't want, never asked for, and aren't consulted about -- it starts to become personal.

"In fact, the continuing lack of accountability shown by public officials on these matters is bringing THE PEOPLE much closer to uttering three devastating words:

'Taxation without representation'

"The size of the crowd and the volume of shouted objections will only grow if the government continues to fail to listen to the will of the people.

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 08:25 PM
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35. ES&S???
After reading all the accounts so far, and various comments, I am a bit concerned that ES&S got somewhat neglected. It was put off to the second day. I'm anxious to hear from anyone who stayed for day #2. Anybody?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 10:43 PM
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36. California leads the nation in public demonstrations. I love it!!!
Welcome to the 60's, rock on!


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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:14 AM
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39. Here's the first report I've seen on day #2 of the VSPP (6/18/04)...
http://www.calvoter.org/news/blog/

(Kim Alexander of the California Voter Foundation writes:)

"Friday, June 17, 2005

"News coverage of yesterday's Voting Systems Panel hearing 

"Today's continuation of yesterday's Voting Systems Panel meeting was less crowded, but there were still many people who showed up again today for the hearing. Many activists spoke throughout the morning, again on the same themes as yesterday, calling for open source voting system software and opposing electronic voting machines.

"There was some news coverage in today's papers about yesterday's hearing. Ian Hoffman's story for ANG Newspapers and Bill Ainsworth's article in the San Diego Union-Tribune provide additional coverage of yesterday's events."

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(Here are the urls for the news stories she cites:)

The ANG story (portions already posted at DU)

"Activists: Vote 'no' on voting system
In an unusual move, panel does not make recommendation after facing angry crowd"
By Ian Hoffman, STAFF WRITER
http://www.insidebayarea.com/searchresults/ci_2807745

The San Diebo Union-Tribune story

"Activists rip Diebold voting unit"
By Bill Ainsworth
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
June 17, 2005

SACRAMENTO – Scores of activists urged a state advisory panel yesterday to reject a bid by Diebold Elections Systems Inc. to win approval for use of voting machines that were decertified last year....
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/state/20050617-9999-7m17vote.html

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Kim Alexander quotes large portions of these stories at her blog and goes on to describe day #1 in good detail. She concludes (in her dry way):

"One thing is for certain -- voting security continues to be an issue of serious concern to many California voters. So many people took time out from their work day to participate in the hearing. Though the hearing was heated and unruly at times, it was inspiring to hear the many passionate comments made by speakers about how much they cherish democracy and their right to vote."

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("Unruly"! Go, Golden Staters!!!!!!!)
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:44 AM
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40. Here's the url for Kim Alexander's June 16 VSPP testimony (California
Voter Foundation is a non-profit run by Alexander)

http://www.calvoter.org/issues/votingtech/pub/061505memo.html

It is expert testimony with much detail on Diebold's testing failures, and is ultimately a blistering attack on Diebold, although Alexander maintains a position that electronic voting can be made transparent and accountable. (I know no longer believe that. See below*.)

Here is her conclusion:

"Based on Diebold’s prior practices in California’s certification process, this is a company that does not deserve to be given the benefit of the doubt.  Why didn’t Diebold, once it had a newer model of its printer unit available, supply that unit to the Secretary of State for testing rather than allow the Secretary of State to continue testing a different unit? 

"The recent revelations about the testing of Diebold’s equipment is another example of Diebold playing fast and loose with California’s certification process.  Diebold’s past transgressions in this area resulted in widespread equipment failure in several California counties during the March 2004 election that left thousands of California voters disenfranchised. 

"Given the history of this company, it is imperative that the Secretary of State’s office guarantee that every step and requirement of the certification process is carefully followed so that voters in our state can have confidence in election results produced from Diebold equipment. "

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*(I suppose it's theoretically possible to make electronic voting transparent and accountable--with open source code, a real paper ballot, and stringent testing and auditing--but I think we have to first reckon with the Dark Powers of the Bush Cartel who have STOLEN our right to vote with these Bush partisan electronic voting companies. The situation is entirely out of control--both in Calif and across the nation. It's become very clear that this Cartel did a black ops/secret dossier hit on Kevin Shelley, to get rid of that good public servant, then installed a Schwarz patsy appointee as Sec of State, who has packed the VSPP and his staff with electronic election theft Cartelists. It is NOT a neutral, non-partisan, reasonable environment. It is a fascist coup. And so I think we have to FIRST throw their election theft machinery into Boston Harbor, so to speak, and START OVER.)
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 06:44 PM
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42. Is someone from California going to Houston for the June 29 Election
Assessment Hearing (the alternative to the phoney, private Baker/Carter "commission" "hearing" June 30)?

Could you take a petition for everyone there to sign re: public comment on Diebold and ES&S DREs (deadline June 30)? Or organize a group letter among speakers and other participants, which can be emailed to the CA Sec of State and the VSPP, and maybe cc'ed to CA legislators and to media?

We need help in beating back Diebold and ES&S in California! Lots of help! A national spotlight!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 08:45 PM
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43. See JunkYardDogg's thread for sample letter and latest news.
JYD says Bruce McDannold of Sec of State office is saying their email is "full." Probably B.S. But use the fax number, snail mail or Fed Ex to be sure. (See the contact info threads, above.)

JYD's post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x379435

(Subject title: "Deny Certification to Diebold and E S & S in California")
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 08:17 PM
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44. Kick for June 30 deadline! n/t
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 05:25 AM
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46. Another kick
:kick:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 04:38 PM
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47. The new DNC report might give us some quotes we can use on DRE's
and on secret, proprietary software counting our votes.

But it is mostly a piece of crap.

I think we have to begin targeting corrupt Democrats who are colluding with Bushite electronic voting machine companies. That is the only way that this piece of crap of a report can be explained to people. And people WILL be asking why the Democrats are endorsing optiscans--and specifically touting ES&S for godssakes!--and NOT MENTIONING that ES&S is funded by the far right, that Diebold is run by a Bush "Pioneer" and campaign chair, and Sequoia now employs the former Republican CA Sec of State Bill Jones and his chief aid Alfie Charles!

Jeez. Thanks a lot, DNC!

But we're going to have shorter lines in Dem precincts in Ohio NEXT TIME! Uh-huh! And guess why they're going to be shorter? Because people are not going to vote any more. The Dems can kiss all those new voters good-bye, and some old ones, too. WHY SHOULD THEY VOTE with Bush partisans owning and controlling the voting systems, and the Democrats DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT?
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 07:30 PM
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48. You are so right
Edited on Wed Jun-22-05 07:33 PM by Cookie wookie
Edited for typos

Let's start a list of the Dems in Washington who have made significant moves to help the vendors of vapor votes:

My first on the list:

1. Senator Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn): "The proposals mandating a voter-verified paper record would essentially take the most advanced generations of election technologies and systems available and reduce them to little more than ballot printers."

Dodd signed a letter that Cathy Cox, the corrupt Georgia Secretary of State, used to kill a verified voting bill in 2004 (SB500). Interestingly enough, his letter not only helped kill SB500 but likely downed CT Bill 388 as well.

http://www.ctgreens.org/articles/dodd_08-15-2004.html

Here's a copy of the letter, mid page dated March 3, 2004, with a rebuttal by Russ Holt and Bob Graham, but coming too late to use in our legislative session. The damage had already been done: http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2004/3111hava_debate.html

And this photo sure looks like Dodd, at about the time he was writing letters to kill verified voting because it was supposedly going to disenfranchise the disabled, standing and watching a demo of the Avante vote-trakker system which has a voter verified paper ballot printing technology with the headphones and audio technology to assist disabled voters.

http://www.ctgreens.org/articles/dodd_08-15-2004.html

2. Representative Steny Hoyer (D-Md.): For the same reason as Dodd. He signed that letter too.

Traitors!


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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:02 PM
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49. You are absolutely right on about Dodd. He's also a Bilderberg Group
participant (global predatory capitalists). A major bad egg.

We need a researcher, or maybe get someone in each state. We could do some Google stuff. But we need to do a comprehensive search of campaign donations, nationwide; of their votes on this matter; of any "revolving door" employment, board memberships, & consultancies; of attendance at Diebold-type lavish lobbying fests; connections to tech companies (other gov't contracts these jerks may be reaping and how they are reaping them--I know they've got university db contracts in CA); any suspicions about their own elections; and like that. An expose.

I'm ready to go for the throat.

We also need a similar db on Dem STATE and COUNTY elections officials, and state legislators, etc. I think we've got some very serious corruption at that level.

A big job. But this really, really needs to be done--and then it needs to be published in Mother Jones or Vanity Fair or the New Yorker. (I wonder what Seymour Hersch is up to these days.)
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:29 PM
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51. Wouldn't that be great
I've wondered, has Cox been given any personal gifts or promises by Diebold? I have no idea how to find out. I am curious to know if Diebold is going to select her as governor or if they will select Perdue, our current Rethug governor. After all, Georgians have lost their right to vote thanks to Cox. Now the big question is, who will Diebold want to win in Georgia in 2006, their Democratic pet Cox or the current Rethug? We also may have Ralph Reed running for Lt Gov. I imagine that Diebold will want to elect him.

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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:32 PM
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52. But I also think just having a list of these
traitor dems, separating them from the pack so all Democrats don't get smeared because of the corruption of a few, that would be helpful to just keep posting now and then and everyone could add to it. I know enough about Dodd without having to know more. He torpedoed our chances for getting our legislation through, and hurt others as well. He's a rat, no he's a super rat.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:44 PM
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50. McPherson wants public input re: vote auditing legislation by this Friday.
From Kim Alexander's website:
http://calvoter.org/news/blog/

Tuesday, June 21, 2005
SoS Bruce McPherson seeks public comment on vote auditing legislation
California Secretary of State Bruce McPherson is seeking input from the public on legislation currently pending in the California Legislature to address voter verified paper audit trail standards for electronic voting machines. His request for public comment is available on the Secretary of State's web site; comments must be received no later than this Friday, June 24.

Two bills are at issue here: Senate Bill 370, authored by Senator Debra Bowen, and Assembly Bill 1636, authored by Assembly Member Tom Umberg. Both bills would require in statute that the voter verified paper audit trail be used to perform the one percent manual recount that is required under state law. Both bills have passed out of their houses of origin and have gained unanimous, bipartisan support so far in the Legislature.

Many activists who have worked on the paper trail assumed that once it was mandated, it would of course be the record that county officials would use to verify the accuracy of the computerized vote count, since printing electronic ballot images and comparing those to computerized counts is a completely meaningless exercise. Unfortunately, some county registrars intend to continue this practice, even after voter verified paper audit trails are mandated.

SB 370 and AB 1636 would require by law that the voter verified paper audit trail be used to perform the manual count. CVF will be submitting a letter to the Secretary of State urging him to support these changes in the law so that it is clear to vendors, election officials and voters that the manual count be performed in a manner that truly verifies the accuracy of software vote counts.

Anyone who wishes to weigh in on this matter is encouraged to do so. Comments can be addressed to:

Constituent Affairs
Secretary of State's Executive Division
1500 11th Street, Sacramento, CA 95814

Via fax: 916-653-9675
Via email: constituentaffairs@ss.ca.gov
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:53 AM
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57. Thanks for the info, nicknameless! I'm firing off my letter to
McPherson this morning, with cc's to legislators and media. I'll post it below shortly.
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:16 PM
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53. turn it up!!! i'm in MN but would dome out to CA if i could!
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JunkYardDogg Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 02:17 PM
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54. The E S & S Tabulators are Wireless Equipped
We do not yet know if the Auto Mark is wireless
The Diebold TSX evidently has a wireless card slot, but no card

NOWHERE in the VSPP Certification Report by the VSPP Staff was it reported or written that the ES &S tabulators are wireless, but they are

The Calif State VSPP Staff Certification Testers are NOT going to report Wireless equipment
From this point on, we probably must assume that all equipment coming thru for certification is wireless equipped and enabled.
Feel better now folks
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 01:19 AM
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55. Revolt against Carteri-Baker--$upport Elec. Asses. Hearing
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 02:05 AM
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56. I have written and told everyone I know to write.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

So far, it has been pretty much what we expected since they got rid of Shelley.

We'll see how much "integrity" McPherson still has, now that he is part of the Norquist-Rove plan to take California.

Maybe he will still have some spine. Time will tell.

I doubt very much if the "special election" would be proceeding given Arnold's low approval ratings and the public resistance to his plans, if they weren't assured of a victory, by hook or by crook.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:01 AM
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58. Here is the Assembly Elections Committee (not posted elsewhere):
Assembly Committee on Elections and Redistricting
Committee phone (916) 319-2094

Tom Umberg, Chair
Dem-69
Tel (916) 319-2069
fax (916) 319-2169 fax
tel (714) 939-8469
FAX (714) 939-8986
State Capitol
P.O. Box 942849
Sacramento, CA 94249-0069

Mark Wyland, Vice Chair
Rep-74
(916) 319-2074
Assemblymember.Wyland@assembly.ca.gov

Johan Klehs
Dem-18
Tel (916) 319-2018
FAX (916) 319-2118 fax
Tel (510) 583-8818
FAX (510) 583-8800

Mark Leno
Dem-13
(916) 319-2013
Assemblymember.leno@assembly.ca.gov

Lloyd E. Levine
Dem-40
(916) 319-2040
Assemblymember.levine@assembly.ca.gov

Michael N. Villines
Rep-29
(916) 319-2029
assemblymember.villines@assembly.ca.gov

-----

Note: Umberg and Klehs don't have public email.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:12 AM
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59. Here's the Senate Elections Committee (so DUers who want to write
today don't have to look it up):

CA SENATE ELECTIONS COMMITTEE

Senator Debra Bowen, State Capitol, Room 4040, Sacramento, CA 95814
Tel: (916) 445-5953, Fax: (916) 323-6056 Senator.Bowen@sen.ca.gov

Senator Jim Battin (Vice-Chair), State Capitol, Room 3067, Sacramento, CA
95814
Tel: (916) 445-5581, Fax: (916) 327-2187 jim.battin@sen.ca.gov

Senator Joseph Dunn, State Capitol, Room 2080, Sacramento CA 95814
Tel: (916) 445-5831, Fax: (714) 705-1586 Senator.Dunn@sen.ca.gov

Senator Kevin Murray, State Capitol, Room 5050, Sacramento, CA 95814
Tel: (916) 445-8800, Fax (916) 445-8899 Senator.Murray@sen.ca.gov

Senator Charles Poochigian, State Capitol, Room 5087, Sacramento, CA
95814
Tel: (916) 445-9600, Fax: (916) 327-3523 Senator.Poochigian@sen.ca.gov

Senator Gloria Romero, State Capitol, Room 313, Sacramento, CA 95814,
Tel: (916) 445-1418, Fax (916) 445-0485 Senator.Romero@sen.ca.gov

Dems: Bowen, Dunn, Murray, Romero
Repubs: Battin, Poochigian
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:33 AM
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60. Here's my letter to McPherson re SB 370 and AB 1636
To: California Secretary of State Bruce McPherson
Via email to: Secretary of State, 1500 11th Street, Sacramento, CA 95814
Date: June 24, 2005
From: xxxxx
Re: SB 370 and AB 1636

Dear Secretary McPherson:

Senate Bill 370 and Assembly Bill 1636 are the least that should be done to insure honest, transparent elections in California. All electronic voting systems currently in use and proposed are, at best, extremely insecure and unreliable and wide open to fraud. Voters need a Voter Verified Paper BALLOT (VVPB), not just an Voter Verified Paper Audit Trail (VVPAT) to even begin to insure the validity of vote counts, along with many other guarantees of transparency that are absent in current and proposed systems. For instance, current electronic voting systems permit the companies who make these systems to control the vote count through “trade secret,” proprietary software. Should we trust our elections to these private companies? It is absurd that, at present, we do. And it is even more absurd when you know that major election system vendors, such as Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia, are run by Republican partisans.

This is ridiculous, and scandalous! Further, many of these voting systems contain wireless connection capability, and many other egregious security holes, including the use of private company personnel for servicing the machines.

SB 370 and AB 1636 require that the VVPAT be used in the 1% mandatory audit of the vote count. It is ridiculous and absurd that county election officials have to be mandated to do this. They should naturally desire to provide honest verification of the electronic vote. That some don’t desire this is very revealing, and points to the pervasive corruption of our election system that has been wrought by HAVA and by the lavish lobbying of private election system companies.

One of the things that Kevin Shelley did was to ride herd on these corrupt and/or malfeasant county election officials. Are you doing the same? I hope so. They, and your staff, and you yourself, should also be voluntarily pledging not to engage in “revolving door” employment—or should be so mandated. It is utterly scandalous that former Republican Secretary of State Bill Jones and his chief aide Alfie Charles now work for Sequoia, and that the assistant registrar in Solano County used to be Diebold’s chief salesperson in California. These grave conflicts of interest must be stopped.

The mandatory audit should be much higher than 1%. I would recommend 10%, given the monumental insecurity of electronic voting systems, but I would hope that any Secretary of State with the public interest as his chief concern would recommend at least a 5% audit.

Frankly, I think we should chuck these electronic voting machines into the Pacific Ocean and start over. I know that the corruption involved means that that will not likely happen. But it should. We need to go back to a paper ballot/hand count system, clean house and start over with open source code and other elements of an election system that is conducted in the open, not behind closed doors by “experts” and “professionals” and their voodoo machines.

Yours sincerely,

xxxxx

cc: to state legislators and news media

-------------------------

I cc'ed to both Legislative Elections Committees and to the Sacto Bee and all media listed in the MEDIA BLASTER. Media got the following header note:

Note to editors, journalists and commentators: I’m providing a cc of my letter to California’s Secretary of State re some recently proposed election bills in the CA legislature in the hope that U.S. journalism isn’t dead, as so many believe. I hope that my assertions in this letter will prompt you to investigate how our votes are counted and by whom.

--------------------------

The Media Blaster is at:

http://www.independentmediasource.com/voteintegrity2_12.htm

-------------------------

Sacramento Bee contacts:


Amy Chance, political editor
(916) 326-5535; e-mail achance@sacbee.com

Rick Rodriguez, executive editor
(916) 321-1002; e-mail rrodriguez@sacbee.com

Joyce Terhaar, managing editor
(916) 321-1004; e-mail jterhaar@sacbee.com

Mort Saltzman, deputy managing editor
(916) 321-1012; e-mail msaltzman@sacbee.com

Letters to the Editor:

Editor: John Hughes - Tel: (916) 321-1906

Send letter to: E-mail: opinion@sacbee.com
Or to:
P.O. Box 15779, Sacramento, CA 95852 - Phone: (916) 321-1903

Must include: Real Name, Postal Address, Daytime phone number

(I don't know their word limit. Figure 200-250 words. My letter to McPherson, above, is 483 words.)
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:52 AM
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61. Submit comments to the Los Angeles Times:
State/local edit/opinion

http://www.latimes.com/services/site/la-comment-
metro,0,7908193.htmlstory

National

http://www.latimes.com/services/site/la-comment-
dcbureau,0,4456734.htmlstory

Op-ed

http://www.latimes.com/services/site/la-comment-
oped,0,5293584.htmlstory
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:27 PM
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62. Kick! n/t
:kick:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 11:54 AM
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63. Kick for the June 30 deadline on comment to Sec of State McPherson and
the VSPP on Diebold and ES&S election theft machines. Bear in mind that they may be playing games with the McDannold public email address that was provided in the official meeting notice. (JunkYardDogg says McDannold was claiming that it was "full.") Best to send a fax, snail mail or Fed Ex. Only use email if you are desperate for time.

We really need to keep flooding these people with protest letters to let them know THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING!

Also note: CA Senate bill 370 and Assembly bill 1636 is a separate matter. It specifically regards requiring county election officials to use the Voter Verified Paper Audit Trail (VVPAT) to audit electronic voting results. A no-brainer. But that's the state of things with our county election officials--many of them have been corrupted by the HAVA billions and the lavish lobbying and future job offers of election system companies (and not just the Republicans!).

We have a June 30 deadline for public comment on Diebold and ES&S election theft machines. The deadline for comment to the Sec of state on SB 370 and AB 1636 is past (and it was a very short public comment period--I don't know why.) (It was 6/24.)

HOWEVER, public comment to CA LEGISLATORS is still needed to insure passage of these minimalist election security bills. (--and to demand MORE!). I don't know the current status of the bills. JunkYardDogg, can you tell us?

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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:17 PM
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64. NORTHERN CALIFORNIA EVENT NOTICE
June 24, 2005

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

Voter Confidence Committee Presents Votergate the Movie

The Voter Confidence Committee (VCC) will present Votergate the Movie on Wednesday, June 29 at 6pm at the Redwood Peace and Justice Center at 1040 H St. in Arcata. Votergate documents the travels of Bev Harris and her efforts to shine light on the dark corporate secrets of our election system. This free screening will be followed by presentations and discussion of related election reform activities happening in Humboldt County, including:

--Discussion of the Voter Confidence Resolution
--PowerPoint presentation on preferential voting
--Introduction to publicly owned open voting systems
--Proposal of an Election Reform Task Force (Humboldt County) and Charter Review Commission (Eureka)

"The Voter Confidence Committee has opened several fronts in the election reform movement," says VCC Principal Dave Berman. The Arcata City Council will hold a hearing on the Voter Confidence Resolution at its July 6 meeting. Full text: http://guvwurld.blogspot.com/2005/04/voter-confidence-resolution.html

VCC Principal Scott Menzies recently gave presentations on preferential voting at a Eureka Town Hall Forum and during the June 7 Eureka City Council meeting. "This next time I'm going to expand the topic a little bit," says Menzies. "I'm going to discuss both Instant Runoff Voting and Choice Voting. The only difference is that IRV is for single-seat races and Choice voting is for multi-seat races like the City Councils."

The VCC has also been actively lobbying the Elections Department and the Board of Supervisors. "We definitely say No Deal With Diebold!" says VCC Principal Mark Konkler. "The VCC supports publicly owned open voting systems like the one designed by Open Voting Consortium."

Other recent VCC activities included a trip to Sacramento to attend the Voting Systems and Procedures Panel hearing where Diebold ultimately endured a heavy battering by the public for its record on voting security. While at the Capitol, VCC members also lobbied Assemblymember Berg and Senator Chesbro on voter confidence issues.

The VCC hopes to see community members plug into any of the various projects.

For more information: www.voterconfidencecommittee.org; www.guvwurld.blogspot.com

Who: Voter Confidence Committee
What: Free screening of Votergate and discussion of local election reform efforts
Where: Redwood Peace and Justice Center, 1040 H St., Arcata
Why: Current election conditions ensure inconclusive outcomes
When: Wednesday, June 29, 6-8pm Humboldt Standard Time
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:39 PM
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65. Another outrageous event requires action (national event in CA):
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 03:48 PM by Amaryllis
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x380340
ACTION! Election officials for sale to the highest bidder. Speak out!
Please go kick this thread!

Conny McCormick is giving the welcome address!
Looks like it's at the Beverly Hilton.

This summer county, state, and national elections officials will be heading to Hollywood and Beverly Hills to enjoy four days of fun and sun sponsored, in part, by their friends at Diebold, Sequoia and ES&S. Yes, that's right. Diebold is co-sponsoring the "Welcome Reception"; ES&S is co-sponsoring the "Graduation Luncheon and Awards Ceremony" and Sequoia is co-sponsoring a Thursday evening dinner and dance.

This gathering is NOT a weekend or even a long weekend. This gathering is done during the work week while those officials are being paid by their counties or states, that is, the tax payer. So while they are on the clock, being paid by us, they will be enjoying the hospitality of the voting machine vendors who will be plying them with misinformation and free meals, snacks, and drink.

The list of speakers at this event is stunning in its absurdity. There is no one to speak the truth about voter verified paper ballots. Instead our elections officials who attend will get to hear from ousted Palm Beach Director of Elections Theresa LePore. Attendees will get to hear about "Challenged Elections and Recounts" from the King County, Washington Auditor whose county's elections were woefully mismanaged in November.

Many states have made it illegal for any elected official or employee to receive ANY gifts from vendors. Are any employees of your county elections office, or your county elections director, going to attend this corporate sponsored gathering? Send them an email asking. Let them know you think it's a conflict of interest. Include their bosses, county commissioners, and/or state elections directors, in the email so everyone knows what will be going on. Let the media know that this event is a potential ethics problem.

Please go to the thread and read and kick and take action.
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Senior citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 07:05 PM
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66. Kick! FAX those fux the facts! n/t

:kick:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 02:58 PM
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67. Boot, kick, yell out the window--for June 30 deadline!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 08:08 PM
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68. See also JunkYardDogg's post at...
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 11:21 AM
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69. Kick again! Good heavens, we have 24 "recommends" for this...
thread. I hope that means lots and lots and lots of letters to CA officials on these election theft machines!
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:14 AM
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70. KICK! their ass! n/t
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:54 AM
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71. JYD, see my comments re: McDannold email address, at
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x381410

Note to all: I have an email from Bruce McDannold, of 6/7/05, saying that this email address is good for public comment: bmcdanno@ss.ca.gov

This is also the email address on the official public meeting notice.

JYD says McDannold told him (circa 6/16) they are discounting email, because their email box is "full."

Caveat: Use FAX or FED EX, if you can. If you can't, use the above email address. I think they have a lawsuit on their hands if they don't handle emailed public comment properly.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 11:32 AM
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72. Kick! n/t
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 05:03 PM
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73. kick.nt
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:40 AM
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74. Kick for action today! Last chance to sound off on Diebold and ES&S
election theft machines for California!
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