Hey Doc ..... I hope I don't go to your office for a broken leg .....

[Botany]

..... because I think you might treat me for high cholesterol because
more people die of heart problems.

No widespread fraud in Ohio? God good Ken Blackwell is now quoting
the DNC report as proof that the election was fair.

OHIO FACTS

In 19 south and western rural and suburban counties out of the 88
counties in Ohio an unknown LIBERAL BLACK WOMEN from N.E. Ohio
with no money and little advertising pulled in more votes than John Kerry

In Greene County 3,800 registered voters produced 50 votes ....
the 3 or 4 Precincts where 2 all black schools (Central State University &
Wilberforce) were located

In 19,000 votes where loaded after the polls closed and the Machines were
turned off; Miami County

In Lucas County republican operatives had open access to voter files @
the BOE for an unknown length of time ....... In that county people who
had been registered for up to 44 years went to vote and they were told the
no longer were registered

In Mahoning county 86 of 88 voting machines had the light go on for
bush when Kerry's button was depressed

In Trumbell county more absentee ballots were cast then people who
applied for absentee ballots

In Fairfield County when 3 hand counts failed to match the the machine #s
during the recount it was stopped and new hardware was brought in and
installed over the weekend ..... the #s matched then

In Hocking County a Triad employee told BOE employees to post "cheat
sheets" on the wall to make sure that the #s matched during the recount

I could go on for an hour .....

God Damn when are the democrats going to grow a spine?

No widespread fraud?

[BrklynLiberal]

1. Truth be told..which of course will never happen in our MSM,Bush was never

ACTUALLY elected to the office to which he pretends to assume ownership.
He never was and never will be MY President. NEVER NEVER NEVER
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[getmeouttahere]

2. This is what happens when one party....

run by theocrats, has control of the government. Unfortunately its going to take a lot more pain for Americans to wake up to this.

[oneold1-4u]

5. Awake!

And would give anything to make change, but even if deadly, the change has to be through justice, even if the definition of that word has to be changed back to pre bush!

[zalinda]

3. I realize that many people will be upset

by this report, but the dems could not send in a report about a stolen election without absolute proof. What this report does do is emphasize that the election process is broken. Now, what the dems do with this report is what is important.

zalinda

[Botany]

4. 19 out of 88 counties is not proof?

before we get a paper trail and verifiable voting we
have to show proof ..... and it is there ......

[zalinda]

6. It's circumstantial, that's the problem

With the media we have now, you would have to have a real smoking gun to get their attention. And, I do mean that literally, because this is so old news to the media.

zalinda

[Botany]

7. Go to # 86 on this thread ...

..... screen captures from Sec. of State's Blackwell's office ....
6% of the total vote is in Lucas County ( a county Kerry won ) and not
one vote for Kerry?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x378950#379002

Hamilton county a 3rd party candidate has the exact same # of votes as
Kerry? Random chance .... i don't think so ......

how many times must the coin being flipped come up heads before
you say it is a to headed coin?

I saw and heard the fraud first hand ...... no hard feelings to you .....
it is just that it eats at me every day and know the DNC report says
no widespread fraud? :grr:

[zalinda]

9. I totally understand

I want to scream and yell too. I know it was stolen, but when you're dealing with a crime, you have to have proof. While I know WE think that it is proof, we need to have someone come forth to say Blackwell said he changed the total. If it was a celebrity or some other "newsworthy" person, it could get on the news. This is old news to the media, unfortunately. Look how we had to fight to get the DSM in the news. This voting thing is so far down on the list, that it isn't funny. I wish it was different.

zalinda

[pgh_dem]

8. Waiting for the smoking gun to shoot you again is not

a viable method of investigation.

Using 'evidence' like 'the 2002 election had similar numbers, so there was no reason to suspect widespread fraud' is profoundly retarded, and also circumstantial. As if, oh I don't know, TWO STRAIGHT YEARS OF WAR AND ECONOMIC FREEFALL would have no effect whatsoever on voting patterns, nor would record high new voter registration. No sirree, people in Ohio voted like this on broken and corrupted machines before, and no variables have been introduced, so nuffin to see here. Move on, we'll get em next time, or the time after that...or something.

If you're not going to submit FOIA requests and publicly challenge/question the actors involved in the situation (like Conyers did), you cannot hope to find any guns, smoking or otherwise.

Donna Brazile should retire in shame.

[mod mom]

10. Why aren't they siding w Conyers demanding subpoena power? nt

[glitch]

11. Indeed. (I am leaving the expletives out, you can assume them)

First (most generous) guess: they are pooling ignorance. Second: they are corrupted. At this point, whether their problem is incompetence or complicity is not relevant.

If the people we have put in charge don't act on election fraud, we the people will. And we won't wait for the corporate media to give us permission.

[Botany]

12. I know this data has been passed on to Dean ....

..... WTF is the problem? Make the repugs defend the indefensible.

Demand paper trails ..... if you vote against why???? full paper ads
Put the #s out 21.4 million new voters in '04 and 70% (or so) voted *?
Delaware, OH 3 precincts that went for Gore in 2000 went to * in 2004
with more registered demos?

Until we force the stolen election out front nothing will be done ......

No widespread fraud ..... thank you for the help DNC .....
start working on your concession speeches for '06 & '08

I don't won't wild charges I just want to "out" known facts.