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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 06:29 PM
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"Don't believe elections rely on technology that can be manipulated"
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 06:31 PM by Amaryllis
First go here and read how the vendors are courting (courting is much to weak a word; seducing? buying off?)election officials
at the Election Center's Annual National Conference at the Beverly Hilton in August. ( Dinner/ dance etc. etc. sponsored by none other than ES&S, Diebold, Sequoia. In addition, note the speakers- Conny McCormack, for one. This is during their work week!

Please go kick the thread and take the appropriate action. Then, check out this for more info on the conference and the Election Center:
http://www.electioncenter.org/

Read the one about DREs and the election process:

"The point is simply this: do not be misled into believing that elections are reliant upon technology which can be manipulated. The real question of whether there “are sufficient and proper safeguards to make it highly improbable?” And the answer to that is yes. It may be possible to do many things, but like time travel (which is theoretically possible), it is highly unlikely at this time."

"The ability to manipulate an election with DREs, combined with election practices and procedures, means it is highly unlikely to be able to do this and get away with it. You can still manipulate an election easiest with hand-counted paper ballots."

The links on the conference make for good reading as well.

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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 06:50 PM
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1. "manipulate an election easiest with hand-counted paper ballots"???
Orwell would've loved that lil' reversal of the truth.

The time travel analogy was pretty far out too.

So how 'bout this one? When pigs can fly electronic voting will be trustworthy without a voter verified paper ballot, random audits and open source code.

On second thought, I changed my mind. Even if pigs learn to fly (you never know, considering the marvels of modern science ;) ), we still will need all-of-the-above for safe voting.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 08:17 PM
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2. Thought you'd like that one, Tom! Just how naive do they think we are?
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 08:24 PM
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3. And now they're going wireless! n/t
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