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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:24 PM
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Paper trail myth.com
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 11:27 PM by Carolab
Look at what this guy is spreading around:

"You really need to get some perspective. Adding paper to the machines are not going to solve your problems, look no further than Venezuela. Claims of fraud ran rampant, yet there were paper backups to the ballot. Also look at the problems documented at Electionline.org with regard to VVPAT machines there. Paperless electronic voting machines exhibit no more problems than any other voting system and if you were to do research, you will find this out yourself. The only way to solve problems with any voting system is put it through the ringer before they are deployed and make sure the poll workers are able to use the machine as well as transparent procedures on handling the equipment. Don't let your fear cloud your judgment because your argument for paper receipts for security is based on a serious flaw, but you don't see it.

http://www.papertrailmyth.com"

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:FR7XIjJTIiUJ:www.bradblog.com/archives/00001311.htm+Humidity+and+optical+scan+tabulators&hl=en
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:30 PM
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1. I don't want receipts from electronic voting machines.
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 11:30 PM by Eric J in MN
I want people to directly mark pieces of paper, which are publicly hand-counted at the precinct on Election Night.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:32 PM
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2. Same here. I will gladly volunteer to sit there and sort. nt
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:55 PM
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3. Me, too. I just posted this to show what some people are spreading.
How can anyone be boosting electronic machines?

I'd like to write this guy and wise him up.
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 12:34 AM
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4. Un-F*cking Believable.
They are actually calling for a removal of the VVPAT language in the legislation.

First the ignore you.
Then they laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
Then you win.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:09 AM
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5. Obviously this is a Diebold or industry front of some kind.
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 01:10 AM by Bill Bored
The only rational argument I've seen for NOT having a VVPAT or VVPB is that the votes cast as shown on the DRE Summary Screen always match the votes as counted in the database. While this makes sense logically, I don't know where the evidence is to prove it!
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GentryLange Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:15 AM
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6. First they make this argument for voting machines...
Next they'll make it about ATMs.

Wish people cared as much about their right to vote, as they do about their money.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:20 AM
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7. You mean like taxation without representation? nt
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