Freepers on Voter Fraud, suprising

[Pawel K]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1280136/posts

It looks like they are fully aware of the security issues, they just dont want to address them.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

1. I don't get it

because elections can be stolen by both sides.

[Blue Shark]

9. They Just haven't been so far...

...I propose that our side steal the next three elections and then we will be even. Then maybe EVERYBODY will get serious about the sanctity of the vote.

[Talismom]

2. Wow! This is interesting and eye-opening! They'd be

addressing them if the dems ever swept a bunch of red states--count on it!

[Moochy]

3. Good ol boys feeling some shame!

grr...

The real problem is at the local level , we had an election setteled by 33 votes ... We have a very intrenched "good ol boy " system around here.
Now I don't mind because I'm a good ol boy .. but ..
When the outcome of an election is trusted to a select few , we are placing ourselves on a very slippery slope.

Perhaps a presidential election would be hard to fix ... but the local mayor, house of rep or perhaps state senetor ? ... thats not that tuff.

The thing that sets off the alarm to me here in Georgia .. is ... no one seems to care .

It's that "let's just keep this between you and me" attitude. I really think that it boils down to the preception that perhaps "we " can use it to our advantage.

a shame

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[Neocondriac]

4. what !

and give up as much as a 7% control factor....NEVER !!!!!!

33% Christian right
7% Diebold,Triad Ace

That leaves only 10.5% of the public who have to be given the koolaide !

[nashville_brook]

5. freepers creepers think they will always have all the power

freepers would say voter fraud, it's really election fraud. voters aren't the ones doin the screwin.

[louis-t]

6. Interesting

Re: his assurance that "no one could alter a presidential election because too may people would be involved and somebody would eventually talk?" Trust me, eventually somebody will.

[melissinha]

10. ahhh

they misunderestimate the ;) arrogance of their precious leaders.


It is my belief that this hold over the voting machine is giving their cronies the sense of security that no matter how poorly they behave they can get re-elected cause they control the machine.

[melissinha]

7. Some relatively objective points by a freeper

However, this should be of concern to all Americans who care about our democratic processes. As long as our election systems exhibit such blatant weaknesses, not only will the opportunities for mischief (and the temptations to exploit them) remain, but they also lend credence to those like the DU and tin hat crowd and give them leverage to cast doubt on the legitamcy of an election.

I guarantee if the electoral shoe is ever on the other foot and these weaknesses are not addressed, it will be the FReepers screaming fraud.
-gbchriste

This person is doing his/her homework, it looks like s/he has taken the time to fiddle around with the systems and determine that a factual point of our argument is true. His/her reaction to what we would do with the information is fair, DUers see what we want to see .... and frankly as s/he puts it "they also lend credence to those like the DU and tin hat crowd and give them leverage to cast doubt on the legitamcy of an election." S/he feels that its possible, but cannot conceive that it would be possible to carry on a massive campaign that would affect the election, what we have to point out is, when the margin is so close as it was in the last election, that feat is easier to accomplish. Also, the potential for mischief on congressional campaigns because the races are local and would involve fewer tabulators, this is VERY possible.

[Pawel K]

11. I was amazed

I am fully aware they won't call the election stolen for obvious reason but the fact they know about the security issues is suprising. Freepers have this tendency to deny reality when it works out in their favor. The important thing is to become bipartisan in this and change this corrupt system before 06. What amazes me is congress doesn't seem to be aware of any of this and elections are only about a year away; we need to make our voices heard one way or another and the best way to do that is get both sides to force their leaders to do this.

[melissinha]

12. I know!!!

We can't regain control and work to shore up the country if our votes can just be switched at will.... Its an easier task to cheat on congressional races.

In addition we can almost anticipate this will happen because the stakes are so high, they just can't let us get the upperhand or most of them are doomed.

[fudge stripe cookays]

8. It's not voter frad.

It's ELECTION fraud.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.
FSC

[TheStates]

14. Doesn't really seem that surprising....

Almost everyone is concerned about vote fraud, it comes down to a two way street. If you vote, you should be concerned about whether your vote is stolen or not. Lots of corrupt represenatives seem to get into office via shenannigans, its not rare or anything really.

[kster]

13. Freeper alert

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4796093