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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 12:27 AM Original message |
Why can't the left face the Stolen Elections of 2004 & 2008? |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
1. It ain't just a river in Egypt....great article. |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. Kick-n-Recommended..nt |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
3. Any ideas how Nye's indictment might pry this open? |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
4. The same people who fall for the 'cult of personality,' we'll be saved! |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 01:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Yes and in the words of "Landshark" |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 02:10 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. (((LOL))) I appove too! |
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janedoe (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
5. If they acknowledge a problem... |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 03:07 AM Response to Original message |
8. One more recommend this thread goes to greatest any |
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MelissaB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 05:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Me! I'm honored. |
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Angry Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 06:14 AM Response to Original message |
10. kicked and rec'd |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
11. kick |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
12. fact check |
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Fly by night (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
13. Agreed. It's embarrassing how poorly researched the TomPaine and MJ ... |
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Helga Scow Stern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 09:46 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. The rest of them can go into the recycle bin, or straight to hell. |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 10:35 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. now, hang on there |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Here is my response to the Mother Jones article |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 06:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. well, I find it characteristically thoughtful and careful |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 07:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. So why howl for the other side? |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 09:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. hmm... |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 10:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Secrecy, even when we protect it as legitimate privacy, protects unseemly |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 06:17 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. we're talking about Warren? |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 06:46 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. To me |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 06:55 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. BTW, of course something evil was going on before the election |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 07:31 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. LandShark submits a perfect crime would include making exit polls |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 07:46 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Well, it's the way, shape or form |
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Fly by night (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 08:43 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. " ... if there WAS a crime, there will be a body somewhere...." |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 09:13 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I agree |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 01:30 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Hope Febble's new book is entitled "Where the Bodies are Buried" |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 07:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
61. Yes to this. |
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Fly by night (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 09:24 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Evidence for wireless capability in vote-counting equipment |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. If Hertsgaard had simply said what you describe in the last paragraph |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 06:12 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. well, I see what you mean |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 07:42 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Yeah it hurts me so bad when secret vote counters like Triad fail to get |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. begging your pardon... |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 04:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. AFAIK you're misunderstanding my post |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 04:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. sorry, I'm covering multiple topics, so we can lose each other |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 05:40 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. My sense of "careful" is not saying what appears justified on account |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 06:37 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. OK; I'm not convinced that Hertsgaard was being careful in that sense n/t |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
15. I heard Thomas Frank ,What's the Matter with Kansas? On NPR |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 10:22 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Well... |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 11:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. hi, miranda |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 05:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. OTOH, they've cracked your microscope, smeared mud on it |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 10:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Pundits, exit pollers, and opinion-formers are the witch doctors of USA |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 07:55 AM Response to Reply #31 |
45. Exit pollers have data on |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
17. What I've picked up - most are afraid if voters don't trust the system |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 08:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. getting to the core of the illogic, thanks glitch |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 10:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. It's a weird logic all right. Very much deny the elephant in the living |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 07:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
44. Sharks gotta keep swimming or they die..... |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
20. The Daily Howler? |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 05:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
56. You make some interesting points Patrick |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
22. Absolutely agree - they can't face the fact that the elections were stolen |
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Stevepol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
26. I think this thread gets to the heart of the matter. Unless the Democratic |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 07:57 AM Response to Reply #26 |
46. Because we necessarily START OUT with an inscrutable system |
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fearnobush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. Focus on Koe and the Blackwell Taft thefts. Here is where the cracks |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
33. Dupe |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 10:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. You mean your post was a dupe? |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 10:29 AM Response to Reply #34 |
50. You mean my commentary on the MJ article? |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 07:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. Thx. n/t |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-28-05 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
36. You know, I wouldn't care whether they acknowledged it, IF |
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sunshinekathy (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-29-05 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
57. This may help - Math Proof that ESI's Ohio analysis is invalid |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-30-05 07:05 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Well, actually.... |
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