If Kerry won OH (he did), you can be sure he ALSO won the popular vote.

[TruthIsAll]

A little common sense, people.

No republican has ever won the presidency without OHIO.

[merh]

1. I have been saying this all along!

The media and the 3 million vote deficit is crap - how these guys live with themselves is beyond me. :mad: :shrug: :mad:

[TexasChick]

2. TruthIsAll, correct. Question, is the New Hampshire count still on? If

they prove fraud there, that will just diminish Chimp's popular vote there too, won't it? I mean, won't people find that the whole election suspect and know he now wouldn't have a mandate?

[saddemocrat]

3. kerry/ohio

I think the bigger question though, is...what IF Kerry won Ohio? There will be no consequences. :( Can you imagine what would happen if the media actually did cover this story and fraud was uncovered?
What would the realistic consequences be of us uncovering the truth?


America and her democracy would be the laughing stock of the world (ok...we kind of are now, but we still have a shred of credibility left)


The dow would tumble, the dollar would fall farther...the economy would tank...troop moral would plummet and there would be uncertainty. A revote nationwide would be too costly but at the same time no one would trust either Bush or Kerry....

On one hand, letting the fraud go is unbearable...would uncovering it make things worse?

(all thought questions here...not necessarily my opinion)

kris

[democraticinsurgent]

4. Kerry will be president

If he is proven to win Ohio in a recount. There's no way around it, the Electoral College reigns supreme. Of course, we think he won but until it can be proven, it's moot.

Lots of people are worried about the popular vote margin. Don't be. Just as in 2000, it doesn't matter. Not to say it won't be ugly and full of legal BS, but in the end, if Kerry wins either Florida or Ohio in a recount, Pickles' White House redecorating will be for naught.

[Jersey Devil]

6. Yes, and thereafter there will be a complete investigation

and it will be determined that Kerry won a lot of other places as well, including, as the original post stated, the popular vote.

[mary195149]

7. 3,000,000 Vote Deficit,

Should not enter in the picture. If it does, then we just have to keep counting votes in other states. We know these inconsistent numbers are all over the country. The democrats wanted to get rid of the electorals prior to the election. The republicans wouldn't go along. Oh well!!

[TexasChick]

5. I don't think America would be the laughing stock. Bush would be the

laughing stock. In fact, fighting for Democracy is what makes this country great and makes us brave. I don't think America would be the laughing stock!

The consequences for us to uncover the truth would be to finally get rid of the people who are taking away our well being.

[saddemocrat]

9. laughing stock

Well, I think that it would raise eyebrows around the world...maybe uncovering the fraud would give us back our credibility....

kris

[TexasChick]

11. Well it's too late for raising eyebrows around the world. The 2000

election debacle has already did that.

[LiveInHope]

14. The popular vote has always seemed wrong to me

and the msm is using it to justify their dismissal of the subject: "Well, even if there are some problems bush is millions ahead so nothing will make a difference". I found it awfully strange that bush's lead INCREASED as the night went on instead of shrinking as all the west coast votes came in. California went blue as did Oregon and Washington which should have added millions of votes for Kerry.

[Gyre]

8. Fuck "voting"

I'm no longer participating in the national sham. I hold the dems as responsible as the perpetrators.

Gyre

[Child_Of_Isis]

10. He did. And he did! n/t

[MajorFlaw]

12. It's a given. Why would anyone believe that shrubco successfully

hacked the vote in Ohio but didn't do it elsewhere. I assume that Kerry carried a majority of the votes cast as well as an electoral majority.

[DARE to HOPE]

13. Hey, it WAS a landslide after all!! :-)

[Arioch]

15. It's only a matter of time

until we prove the fraud and take back our country.

Till then recall the words of Sun Tzu:
"Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. "

I hope Kerry read the art of war ;)