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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:10 AM
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When Ohio's bad elections law goes into force....
...we need to respond.

If we can take back enough of the House of Representatives in 2006, then we need to send a solid message about these crooked election laws. No representative from Ohio should be allowed to sit in the House when elected by these exclusionary laws.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:14 AM
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1. Ohio has become a rouge state that is totally in collusion with
the Republican administration's criminal enterprise. I second you good suggestion. The credentials of their "elected" representatives are invalid, made so by fraudulent elections.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:03 PM
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5. Is rouge a shade of red?
Just askin?
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sweetm2475 Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:17 AM
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2. Question:
How do you respond when your votes don't count? I paid attention to the last election when these laws were either passed or not. The pre-election polling was in drastic contrast to that of the actual votes cast. So basically, IMO, they rigged the election reform law votes. So how do you fight that? This is what blows my mind when it comes to trying to pass election reform measures, if you are using black box voting to get it done, how do you win?
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:21 AM
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3. There's nothing you can do.
You just have to sit back and hope that others will fight for you.

The only other option is to take to the streets, every day. General strike, shut down the state. Riots. If they take away all peaceful recourse, then there's only one alternative.
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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 05:52 PM
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8. At the very least, you can run parallel elections -- so far the results of
parallel elections have been useful for challenging results of actual elections -- you generate an affidavit with the sign in book which can be used to help get a recount (even though you might have to pay for recount)
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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 05:54 PM
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9. Here are 2 links to info. about parallel elections
www.studycaliforniaballots.org
www.ecotalk.org/ParallelElections.htm
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sweetm2475 Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:24 AM
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4. Sad but true. Well I'm from NJ. I hope I can speak for my whole BLUE
state when I say "we got your back, Ohio":patriot:
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:07 PM
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6. Yeah Help Us Out Here, Please
Trust me when I say some of us are trying to change things here and swim against the tide. I think it will take a lot of help to correct things, beginning with educating voters on how bad the fraud is - and how it impacts all of us.
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sweetm2475 Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 11:35 AM
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7. i know you are. my best friend's from ohio.
her, her whole family, all of her friends i ever met, couldn't be any more liberal. and she says almost everyone she knows and grew up with is like her. but acknowledges there are parts of ohio that are very different and very red. she is just shell shocked and so upset with what has happened to her state. she was always so proud of where she was from (oHIo - round on the ends, HI in the middle, lol) so whatever i can do to help her and you get your state back as well as the rest of us get our country back, i will do. but i don't blame you. and i get really pissed when other people are so quick to blame ohio because i pay attention and i see how hard you guys are trying to fight what seems, at times, like a losing battle. keep your head up. (BTW, i lived in duval county, florida during the 2000 election, so in a way, you could say i've been there)
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:20 PM
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10. They have to get initiatives passed.
It's not going to get better until they can sneak one thru. Maybe running parellel elections at the same time.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 07:34 PM
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11. When this happens we will have to rely on federal help to rid
of it.(and we know how good that looks!) Our Supreme Court and most of elected offices are repuke. With Blackwell counting the votes-voting them out of office can not occur.
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