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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 10:35 AM
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AZ Repub questions optiscans: Maybe Repubs can get a fair vote count.
From VotersUnite John Gideon and VoteTrustUSA

Notice it's the Dem that resists the investigation of the machines!



Around the States


Arizona: Computer Scientist Releases Report on Maricopa County Voting Machine Problems
By Warren Stewart, Director of Legislative Issues and Policy, VoteTrustUSA
January 12, 2006
Jones Report Questions the Quality of State and Federal Oversight of Voting Technology


Douglas Jones, a highly respected computer scientist who has written extensively on the history and technology of voting, has released a report detailing the results of his investigation of voting machine problems in Maricopa County Arizona (Phoenix). Dr. Jones, a professor at the University of Iowa, was invited on December 20, 2005 to perform extensive testing on the county's 8 Optech 4C vote tabulating machines. These machines are used to scan absentee ballots, which make up approximately half of all ballots cast in a typical election in Maricopa County.

The circumstances surrounding the request for Dr. Jones' report have created some controversy in Arizona. Sen. Jack Harper (R-Surprise) is investigating voting irregularities in the 2004 District 20 primary. Harper initially requested that the State Senate to fund the report, but when Senate President Ken Bennett denied his request, Harper arranged to fund the investigation privately by the Phoenix New Times. The newspaper agreed to pay $3,000 for Jones to examine voting machines used in the 2004 District 20 primary race and Jones, was allowed to inspect the machines last month as a result of Harper's subpoenas

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Jones suggests that only by hand examination of how actual voters mark their ballots can we determine how the thresholds on the voting machines ought to be set. Jones also suggests that when a recount differs significantly from the first count, only a hand examination of the ballots can determine whether the machinery was out of adjustment or whether ballots might have been altered.



Link: http://votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=718&Itemid=113
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 11:23 AM
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1. Well, this is interesting. I suppose it's possible that there are honest
Republican leaders who would look askance at hackable voting machines run on 'trade secret' proprietary programming code with virtually no audit/recount controls (even ones controlled by major Republican donors and Bush/Cheney campaign chairs). I know for a fact there are dishonest Democrats who don't give a !@#$% how our votes are counted. And I'm pretty sure there is a considerable number of Republican rank and file members who voted for Kerry, and who suffered from Bushite election fraud (possibly more than anyone).

So, if we could get the few honest Republican leaders together with honest Democratic leaders (people like Russ Holt, Barbara Boxer, John Conyers, Howard Dean, Ion Sancho in Florida, Debra Bowen in Calif, and others), and with the Democratic and Republican rank and file who voted against Bush, not to mention the independents, the new voters, and the former Nader voters (all of whom voted for Kerry by big majorities), maybe we can get our democracy back. Our biggest common problems: Bushite fascists, and corrupt, collusive Dem leaders.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:03 PM
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2. Throw out all machines....
back to paper. If we loose fair elections I can live with that.

But I don't think we would loose a fair election.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 04:50 AM
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3. kick
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