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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 10:05 PM
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SILENCE from the Goverment on both side's
Maybe we should be more sympathetic to the Republican people, friends and neighbors should the Dem's be on the winning side of the corrupt voting counting machines one day, Seems to me that the Government is playing both Dem and Repub people against each other, when it comes to these ELECTION THEFT MACHINES.

Take a look at what the other side has to say. It must be the Dem's turn to remain silent so operation "election theft machine" moves forward.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a0de22c0d2d.htm
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:49 AM
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1. kster conspires with Freepers
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 02:53 AM by Wilms
to highlight yet another election almost stolen (or clerically denied) because of bad Ballot Definition Settings involving Straight Party Option, that BillBored and I keeping talking about.

(And nobody listens... :cry: )

And like the other two elections that were overturned I think this one involved ES&S OpScan.


Dispute over amended returns may delay final New Mexico certification

December 1, 2000

snip

Republicans said the 10 percent "undervote" was "significantly higher" than other New Mexico counties and asked for another check. That check determined that a glitch in the county's voting machines did not record presidential votes for ballots that were cast for a straight party ticket.

snip

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/12/01/new.mexico.election/


Meanwhile, 2004 had it's own troubles there, which are still subject to a lawsuit. This thread fell in my lap while googling.


New Mexico Was Blue: 18,659 Missing E-Votes

by ignatzmouse

In New Mexico, the election was very close. The official canvas at http://www.sos.state.nm.us/PDF/Gensumm_04.pdf shows just a 5988 vote win for Bush over Kerry. But also in the canvas is evidence of 18,997 missing votes. If one takes the 775,301 total voters at the top of the canvas and subtracts the presidential totals of all candidates (Kerry 370,942; Bush 376,930; Cobb 1226; Peroutka 771; Badnarik 2382; Nader 4053), one will find a nearly 19,000 vote discrepancy. It has been known. The question is from where and how did the discrepancy occur.

snip

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=168x328#top


Also by by ignatzmouse on that thread are EIRS data showing the symptoms of bad Ballot Definition Settings involving Straight Party Option, that BillBored and I keeping talking about.

(And nobody listens... :cry: )

EIRS E-Voting Incident Reports Confirm the Problem

Some compelling evidence that we have a problem. A slate of e-voting incidents in New Mexico as reported to EIRS https://voteprotect.org/index.php?display=EIRMapNation . Candidate switching, changing selection to "no vote," misalignment, and more...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=168&topic_id=328&mesg_id=339

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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:09 AM
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2. I may as well conspire with the freepers , Kerry
in a radio interview about the election theft machines right before Christmas 05, said "We have to stay on that one" and yet two months later still hasn't said anything more about the machines. Just trying to find something to do until Kerry gets on that one.

:rofl:
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 03:23 PM
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3. May be best that he stays out of it, except supporting remaining lawsuits.

Sore loser, and all that crap.

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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:22 PM
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4. Are there any
left I thought the lawsuits where dismissed, Maybe the -G- is on a vacation from reality. That would be one way to explain the silence about these election theft machines, or maybe there is a plan B ?



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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 05:08 AM
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5. New Mexico
There's one in Ohio that doesn't look at who won, but who got disenfranchised, if I got it right.

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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 07:40 PM
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6. Are these people e-mailing you
for donations? Just curious. They sure remain silent till they want money.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 09:58 PM
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7. Since the election, I only give to specific candidates. I am still pissed
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 09:59 PM by mod mom
out that promise to count every vote. We used this promise to keep people in lines on election night in the cold rain in Ohio. Wonder if those voters will be willing to stand in line next time. I kindly explain it to the volunteers doing the calling.

hope you don't mind me popping in here.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:44 PM
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8. I gave to a lot of them the
last time, but not this time and I keep sending them e-mails every time they ask.

I just can't give them money which I know is going to go right back in to the pocket of the one sided media. I donate money to the Dem's, the Dem's buy 2-30 second slots, in the middle of a one hour cable news channel that is bashing the Dem's.

Where do I get my moneys worth?

I do tell them that, I will donate if they buy the same time slots and tell the people about the election theft machines, if they do that--- I am in.



You are more than welcome to pop in here anytime you want.



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