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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 03:57 PM
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I've got an idea!
All the dems in congress JUST GO LIMP. Let the freepers rape the Constitution, the country, and the rest of the world w/impunity.

All our representatives posturing has done nothing to stop the freeper express to hell anyways. Let's just make it official!

My prediction is that if we let them do whatever they want, within 4 years we'll have congress back anyways. We're never going to get the presidency back so lets just try to get the congress while we can.

Gyre
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 04:00 PM
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1. Heck no!
I shudder to think what might have happened had Jefferson remained silent in 1798. Keep screaming!
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 04:00 PM
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2. Do you actually think we will EVER have our
votes count again if Republicans are not stopped from stealing another election?
If you do, I have a bridge in Brooklyn.......
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 04:00 PM
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3. fantacy vision
they all turn their backs on george et al. refuse to participate. filibuster the fuck out of them.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 04:00 PM
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4. What would be left
Do you think there would be anything left to have control of? Or would the election system be fixed? Or what about the thousands that will die? And all the jobs lost, bad health care, children that miss the education, ...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 04:01 PM
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5. hmm you are assuming clean elections, aren't you?
If you and I do not face to the machines, forget it, they will "win" every election, even dog catcher.
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 04:01 PM
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6. for some inexplicable reason, I AGREE!
so don't ask me to explain.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 04:05 PM
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7. Every Democrat should attach this amendment to every piece of
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 04:06 PM by Vincardog
legislation that they see:
The Fair election petition:
In the interests of fair elections we demand the following standards be instituted immediately for all electronic Ballot boxes and vote counting machines.

All programming instructions shall be written in open source code That code shall include no copy or include statements and all shall be hard coded. That code shall at all times be available for public inspection and pass independent third party certification for accuracy and reliability. After that certification the code and all hardware shall be secured no changes shall be allowed to the code or the hardware after certification.
The vote shall only be counted after a voter verified paper record of the vote has been created and retained.

All vote records and counts shall be transferred by verifiable physical means. Any CD DVD TAPE or other transfer medium shall be labeled with the counts and a date time stamp. All records and counts shall be reviewed and verified for validity and accuracy.

No modems INTERNET connections or telephone connections will be allowed at any stage of the vote counting process.

Then filibuster let nothing pass until this is the law.
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 04:09 PM
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8. Gee, I thought that's was Daschle & Co. had been trying for 4 years!
:shrug:
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Shalom Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 04:13 PM
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9. Withold IRS Payments - No Taxation without Representation!
Here's another thought - the basic crime of Votergate is dis-enfranchisement, denying us our right to choose elected representatives.

In a way, this same issue motivated the American Revolution, and led to the tactic represented by the famous saying "No taxation without representation".

The same justification applies to the current situation, and the same remedy: People who feel they have been ripped off politically should withhold their taxes to the IRS.
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