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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 05:52 PM
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Blackwell's at it again in Ohio!
What's your take on this? Sounds like that fiber-optic network connecting all
(88) BoE's to his office will be burning with packets Tuesday. Quoted from a J30
post today by Jo Anne Karasek, an election reform heroine. Just-in-time reporting
to permit "adjustments?" Curious and skeptical minds want to know!
Cross-posted to Ohio Forum.
:banghead:
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SOS 2006 Directive on Election Night Reporting and Procedures

"On election night, each board of elections must provide this office with reports for the
statewide candidates, U.S. Congress, State Senate, outstanding absentees and provisional
ballots . . . electronically transmit. . . ." by fax, if cannot electronically transmit...

. . . first report must be sent to SOS when the first ten precincts have reported. Thereafter,
please report results at least once each hour continuing until . . . final report. All returns
must be cumulative . . . .

. . . your board shall not close until your final report that includes total electors voting and
number of outstanding absentees and provisional ballots has been given to this office.

The Director and Deputy Director must take copies of final vote results home and be
available by phone from the SOS.

<http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/electionsvoter/directives/2006/Dir2006-47.pdf>
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:11 PM
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1. Um...why does he need running tallies? n/t
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:51 PM
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4. So he can adjust them using the central tabulator on his desk.
In case the election thefts in the field make mistakes. :thumbsup:
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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 01:22 AM
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9. What central tabulators are being used in each county? Does the SoS also
have a central tabulator or were you just joking?

:yoiks:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 05:48 AM
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10. I am not joking, I cannot provide a link but there were
posts here sometime in the past year about Blackwell having a Central Tabulator on his desk "for a legitimate reason" -- to make corrections to precinct-level data if needed.

:puke:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:54 AM
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11. Oh, really?
A link would be really nice also
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:05 AM
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12. Great, you write my final exams. I'll search for the link.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:10 AM
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13. I spend a lot of time in the Ohio forum and never heard of it
There's a skeptic in me.
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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:16 AM
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15. The report comes from Bob Fitrakis of freepress.org.
Edited on Mon May-01-06 11:31 AM by eomer
Here's the DU thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=378842

Fitrakis came out with this info when he was on Laura Flanders' radio show and also on Brad Friedman's radio show. I couldn't find an archive of the Flanders show but here is Brad's:
http://bradblog.com/BradShow/Archives/BradShow_061105_Hour2.mp3

I haven't had a chance to listen to it other than the intro to confirm it is the show that has Fitrakis on it.

On Edit: here is the Flanders show:
http://wanderingstar.com/design/bobfitrakisAAR.mp3


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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:20 PM
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2. so they can spread out the fake votes to win by 2%..& not look rigged
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:31 PM
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3. 5th
:thumbsup:
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Nictuku Donating Member (907 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 08:28 PM
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5. Is Blackwell on the ballot?
Seems rather a conflict of interest for him to be running an election that he is also a candidate in.

Isn't there some law against that?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 09:50 PM
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7. Yep, for governor-definitely a conflict of interest!
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 12:12 PM
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18. The law doesn't exist in Ohio
Edited on Mon May-01-06 12:12 PM by iconoclastNYC
read that either way you wish, they are equally valid.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 08:33 PM
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6. Running tallies = How are we doing? = What adjustments should we make?
There may be benign reasons for having hourly, cumulative reporting; maybe Blackwell will have the Bat phone at hand to alert Batman when a precinct is in need of more machines, or when someone needs a ride to the correct precinct, that make sure their vote counts.

But: I doubt it.



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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 10:43 PM
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8. At it again? Did he ever stop?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 10:39 AM
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14. He took a break between elections to raise money. n/t
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:37 AM
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16. This is so the election theft...
Edited on Mon May-01-06 11:40 AM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...can be effected seamlessly and without notice. When they stole the Schmidt/Hackett election from Hackett, they were taken by surprise at the closeness of the race and had to stop it, claiming glitches and processing problems, in order to alter the count. They don't want to have to keep doing this. It's obvious and inconvenient---they want to make the count adjustments, as needed, in real time without any required interruption or delay.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:57 AM
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17. If I'm not mistaken, in my state it's
illegal for anyone to take copies of final vote results "home" with them. Is this not also so across the country? If not, it should be!! Why can't we have uniform election laws in our country? I know.....States rights etc. etc., but in the era of election fraud, something needs to be done!! In our town when we count ballots, it's in full view of anyone who cares to be present, and votes are tallied by Representatives of both parties. What's wrong with open and fair elections? ..........DUH, I know :think: YOU CAN'T CHEAT THAT WAY!!:grr:
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 12:14 PM
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19. Why are our leaders so blind to this problem?
Why haven't we done more in the states we control?
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