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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 10:54 PM
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Election Reform Forum...
Edited on Fri May-05-06 11:13 PM by Kurovski
Four hours and It's struggling to stay afloat. Should I let it sink?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1115066

And this good news on South Dakota is moving kinda slow, could use ER kicks:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2266764
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 10:59 PM
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1. I have a new link for you to add...
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 11:11 PM
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3. Gotcha covered.(nt)
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 11:10 PM
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2. Never give up easily, it's too important a subject!
Election Reform must be Job One! It's frustrating that even now there isn't overwhelming agreement and outrage on the certain loss/theft of our most basic Democratic power. If our votes are not counted honestly, this is not a Democracy--someone else is choosing our leader (and that, most assuredly, is not in our best interests).

Note to those who aren't sure the electoral process wasn't hijacked: look again, it may take some effort, but the evidence is out there, it's real, and it's undeniable. Need convincing? Take the time to watch Mark Crispin Miller's CSPAN appearance (as linked by Kurovski in the earlier thread: http://www.booktv.org/feature/index.asp?segid=6941&schedID=411 ), it's a good start. I've done it repeatedly over the many months, and each time I've come across new and different pieces of evidence and each time I was completely convinced.

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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 11:34 PM
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4. Other Electoral Fraud 2004 Links...
What Really Happened?
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/2004votefraud.html

Link to List of Links...
http://www.crisispapers.org/topics/election-fraud.htm

Rather See Some Videos? Take your pick...
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/2197/2367.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_U.S._Election_controversies_and_irregularities (jump to Mulimedia section near the bottom)

One of the Original Video Exposés...
http://www.votergate.tv/

One Programmer's Experience:
http://www.edwardsdavid.com/BushVideos/curtis121304.rm

Video made by some members of DU:
http://veredictum.com/stolenelection2004-256.ram

There are a vast number of others... If you find one you really like, be sure to post it! (under DU Election Forum: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=203 )
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 02:44 AM
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5. Thanks to all who helped to keep those threads going!
:hug:
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anoraksia53 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-06-06 06:39 AM
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6. and to state the obvious
What about votersunite.org and the great work they've done providing lists of problems by state and by kind of machine? Their Mythbreakers document is a seriously useful tool.

And blackboxvoting.org of course......they've had great discussions on lots of election reform topics. Their research seems second to none, awesome documentation. They even help people on a one to one basis who are doing something about election reform and not just talking about it. They've got state by state discussion forums for connecting with other activists. Did you see their latest bombshell here? This is seriously exciting.

Maybe we need a list of all the different kinds of changes that we need.....that would have to be different, depending on the state. Or did you want a resource list?

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