Dump Diebold____ At Your Bank

[kster]

by Rob Kall

http://www.opednews.com

Forget Fighting Diebold on the vote Front. Dump the Brand... in Banks and ATMs

Tell your bank, your convenience store to dump Diebold

I can't imagine that the voting business is anywhere near as big a part of Diebold's marketing mix as bank teller and money access machines are.

I went to the local convenience store and decided to get some cash. Lo and behold, it was a Diebold machine, And guess what. It gave me a paper record... all for no charge.

It happens that this machine is owned by the company I bank with.

I KNOW that companies are much more responsive than legislators and the people who make decisions about voting technology, as wrong as that is.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_rob_kall_060508_dump_diebold_____at_.htm

[AndyTiedye]

1. We Now Know Diebold's Software Methodology and Security Sucks

If their ATMs are as badly coded as their voting machinez :scared:

[uppityperson]

2. I talked with a Diebold person @ my bank, asked about papertrails

Why can you give me a paper reciept here and not during an election? "we are trying to make less paper for you, maybe we will be able to do that here (at your bank) soon too." As if.

[BadgerKid]

4. ATM receipt optional by mine

Literally cash and go. If you opt for the receipt, then printing the balance is optional. I'll try to remember to look next time whether it's a Diebold.

[AlamoDemoc]

3. Interesting! Do the ATM machines have Diebold name on them

I didn't see that on the article?

[kster]

5. The one at

my bank does.

[havocmom]

6. Many are Diebold machines. But look further for more interesting stuff

After the 2000 election, the Fed and banks changed how they handle check processing. Instead of physically sending checks back to the banks where the check writer has the account, the amounts are moved via electronically imaging them. The banks all had to get new (expensive) imagining equipment by a specific date. BIG BOOST to the companies that make the machines.

Since Diebold makes many of the machines/computers that banks use, I was wondering if they made the NEW type imaging and transmission equipment the banks all had to buy. Also curious how many other companies make both bank imaging and transmission equipment AND voting machines.

You following me here? The makers of the machines make sure bushco gets in and bushco makes sure banks are required to buy lots of new machines from same companies? Payoff for fixing the elections?

SO, the banks have to get some sort of perk for being forced to buy new machines: The new machines transfer funds from you account faster than back when your bank didn't debit your account until they physically got the check back.. you used to have 'float time'. No more. So, now people are getting more NSF charges and special handling fees charged because many counted on that bit of time to get THEIR checks in the bank. The fees hit the part of the population living from paycheck to paycheck hardest, Oh what a surprise! But the banks get their payback for having to but the machines that might have been payback to the companies that make it easy to steal elections.

All things are connected. And the only think that trickles down is shit on the working class.

If anybody here works for banks, I would appreciate knowing what companies made the equipment their employers bought for the new check system. Want to know if I am full of tin foil or if I have a valid grasp of the situation.

[AlamoDemoc]

12. Thanks...I will look into it further

[rumpel]

13. Here is an article on Diebold ATM plans 5/14/06

Banks push the envelope with new ATMs
Changes in technology mean savings for financial institutions, convenience for public

By Robin Sidel and Ian McDonald
The Wall Street Journal
In Russia, a consumer can put rubles into an automated teller machine and get U.S. dollars. In Brazil and Venezuela, the machines print checks. And banking customers in Indonesia can use an ATM to schedule and pay for the ritual sacrifice of a goat.


In the U.S., ATMs don't do any of those things. Despite a slew of predictions a few years ago that U.S. consumers would use ATMs to apply for loans, buy ski-lift tickets and receive coupons for soft drinks, today's bank machines pretty much just spit out greenbacks because that's the service U.S. bank customers typically want.
The biggest makers of ATMs are trying to sell a new generation of machines. Instead of razzle-dazzle features that turn the machines into mini-media centers, they allow customers to do something far less glamorous: deposit cash or checks without an envelope.
Unlike traditional machines that swallow an envelope and require the customer to key in the deposited amount, the new versions read checks and count cash. They can display an image of the check on the screen and print an image of the deposited check on a receipt. Bank executives literally "oohed" and "aahed" when a representative of ATM maker NCR Corp. demonstrated the technology at an industry conference last fall.
In addition to looking slick, the new machines ultimately could save banks millions of dollars by scanning images of the checks and eliminating the need to haul physical pieces of paper around the country for processing. Consulting firm TowerGroup, a unit of MasterCard International, estimated last year that envelope deposits made at ATMs and by tellers cost about $1.70 each to process, while electronically scanned versions cost 40 cents. The checks also clear faster for customers.
Eliminating the envelope also is expected to reduce the number of fraudulent transactions that occur when swindlers claim to have deposited money but merely feed an empty envelope into the machine. "Deposit automation will have huge and positive ramifications for banks and their customers," says Tom Swidarski, chief executive of Diebold, another big ATM maker.

more
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060514/BUSINESS/605140353/1003/BUSINESS

[zalinda]

7. The only way to get rid of Diebold, or at least make

them honest, is to get the repubs involved. Yup, if there were rumors floating around the net about some liberal hackers going after the electronic voting machines in 2006 and 2008, see how fast those machines would be made safe or be gone.

zalinda

[kster]

8. With all the recent hand counting

thats been going on Chicago, Texas, Ohio, ect, The Republicans and some Dems got to be wondering right now if there are any liberal hackers out there messing up the machines in order to force the hand counts to happen.

[zalinda]

9. Yup, I guess project X is going along smoothly. n/t

[BeFree]

10. No, it's not

The deadline was passed earlier this month without much of the plan showing results. Oh, there were several cases of accomplishment, but all in all, things are a little rough yet.

They tell me that lessons were learned and the revised plan is gonna phase in the new recruits, one an MIT grad & former CIA agent, who is now a believer.

They tell me we will be ready come August. I believe!

[mmarcus]

11. The Diebold machine at my bank says "Interbold"

It has the little swoop logo but it says Interbold not Diebold. Did I miss something or is this a new development? I bet their trade name is so buggered now they are maybe goig to switch to a new one and sell off their voting machines.