Diebold's latest PR spin

[Bushfire]

Diebold spokesman David Bear said that if the "total number of people it would take to pull off a conspiracy like this" simply voted, "they could sway an election."

I couldn't believe that they can thrust this among election officials, and corporate media unless I saw it with my own eyes.

Earth to Diebold: Howard Dean was shown the back door on cable tv. It only takes one or two people to pull this off. We don't buy your PR, and we won't shut up about it. We will let our election officials know the real truth, and we will let our friends and family know the truth. Let the SEC investigation begin.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=425895

[Junkdrawer]

1. That's an old Diebold apologist talking point:

"Do you think an organization of thousands of employees could keep election rigging secret?".

I would always answer: "No, but security flaws could be introduced and made known to a select group of insiders."

I think more are coming to understand this:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12888600/site/newsweek

[BeFree]

2. Hey, Diebold

Let me help you. Here's a shovel. Keep digging.

The pronoucement by the press about the world's worst hole is now gonna get pretty damn deep, heck, it may go all the way to China.

Say, isn't that where most of these machines are made?

[EFerrari]

3. Sure, David. We should just trust you.

lol

[zbdent]

4. Total number of people it would take to pull this off . . .

one evil programmer . . . remember, their is no ability to verify that the code is doing what they say it is doing . . .

[robbedvoter]

5. Not enough manpower Diebold? Hire some immigrants.

This is ridiculous. Hacking a computer program only requires one person - placed strategically at the finall count end of the business.

[garybeck]

6. the REAL POINT that is being missed time and time again

in the scenario that election officials and pollworkers would steal an election, they are correct, it would take many people to accomplish it.

BUT THE POINT THEY ALWAYS MISS IS:

in the scenario that ***employees at Diebold*** want to steal an election, it would only take a few people and it would be very easy.

NPR got it wrong on that point too. Everyone does. Diebold always uses this talking point, and they never admit that their own access is the problem, not the poll workers. Unfortunately Avi Ruben said everything right, except that one important point.

[InternalDialogue]

7. The genius of any "conspiracy"

is that those really masterminding an enormous crime can modify procedures and establish protocols in which the minions doing their small parts are unwittingly driving the crime while believing they're acting appropriately.

[garybeck]

8. but the real point is

that Diebold - IN HOUSE - can do the crime. Not hundreds or thousands of pollworkers all over the country.

whenever they say "it would take such a huge coordinated effort with hundreds or thousands of pollworkers" it is a BLATANT LIE. they are trying to divert the attention from the truth. it would only take a handful of people who work at Diebold.

it's their stock talking point. it must be crushed at every opportunity becuase it's not true.

[InternalDialogue]

9. Oh, I'm with you.

My post was meant in full support of yours. Those thousands of pollworkers don't need to be "in" on a conspiracy. They're just doing their jobs, which is to collect polling data that can be corrupted or changed by as few as one person up the line.

[tinrobot]

10. All it would take is...

An open back door into every Diebold vote tabluator in the country (approximately one per county per state)

A handful of trusted individuals with modems dialing into those tabulators.

If you rigged only key counties in key states, you could do it with less than a hundred phone calls.

[Kurovski]

11. Blech. What the heck is a "tamper-evident seal"?

Are they really trying to convince us to equate complex computer systems to a bottle of Tylenol?

The County Clerk said: "Please be aware that the general public does NOT have open access to the voting system." Is that supposed to be a reassurance? It's not the public I'm worried about in the first place.

It's nice to know I'm not the biggest dumbbell in the weight room.

[kster]

12. If David Bear would say this ON TV

it would sound better, but thats not going to happen is it?.

[BeFree]

13. I doubt...

...that he is that stupid. That would surprise me.

Go ahead, surprise me.