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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 05:56 PM
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FreePress: An Open Letter from OH to the people of Mexico
An open letter from Ohio to the people of Mexico
by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman
July 12, 2006

The patterns are much too familar to ignore. Those of us who saw first-hand how the U.S. presidential election of 2004 was stolen here in Ohio, we cannot avoid the conclusion that Mexico's presidential election is also on the brink of being stolen. Too many of the symptoms are being repeated, too much of what happened in Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004 is being repeated to believe otherwise.

To those in Mexico who still believe in democracy, we urge you to avoid the mistakes made here. Do not doubt for one minute that fraud, intimidation and outright theft are the tell-tale trademarks of the Bush junta and its overseas minions.

Above all, DO NOT GIVE IN.

The most crucial difference between the United States in 2000 and 2004 versus Mexico 2006 is that in Mexico, there is a candidate willing to stand up to this outrageous theft. Perhaps you will ultimately get the recount that was so thoroughly denied here.

But make no mistake: to allow this election to be stolen is to welcome the death of what is left of your democracy. Those who think, in going on with their daily lives, they can somehow avoid the fallout of such a theft is delusional folly.

<SNIP>

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2006/2074

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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 06:01 PM
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1. Mexico's Election: the "ghost of elections to come" in the U.S.
Edited on Wed Jul-12-06 06:02 PM by diva77

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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 07:31 PM
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2. NO FRAUDE!!! NO FRAUDE!!!
MEXICANS ROCK!!!!!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 02:29 PM
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3. K&R.
"The most crucial difference between the United States in 2000 and 2004 versus Mexico 2006 is that in Mexico, there is a candidate willing to stand up to this outrageous theft."

Gore stood up. Lieberman and Kerry, well, not so much.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:22 PM
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4. I read a post on one of the links connecting to the Mexican election, and
it suggested that Kerry conceded and did not fight because they had the goods on him that he used ES & S machines to win the primary in NH away from Dean. I though it was just a tin hat theory but it went on to say (what really stuck out) was that HW had used NH in 1988 to steal it away from Dole. I recently spoke with someone who did legal work for the Dole campaign in 1988 and he said he didn't realize it at the time, but later realized this was true. It made him switch sides. It makes me sick to think this was possible. I wish someone would debunk this Kerry charge, buecause it had me up all night.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 10:26 PM
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5. I had not heard that!
I'm not particularly surprised. Way back when Dems were generally telling us we were "conspiracy theorists" after election theft '04, one of the possible scenarios emerging from my fevered imagination was that the Dems themselves were dabbling in the "dark arts" of fraud.

I want it all to come out. I refuse to defend the indefensible.

mod mom, do you have any idea if you can recall the thread and post the link? Or maybe someone else may have some info they'd care to share? Thanks! :loveya:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 11:12 PM
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7. I looked for it tonight and it made me realize I spend too much time on
the web. I know it was on one of the links to a bradblog on the Mexican election (someone w/o a lot of posts rec'd it.), but finding it will take some time. Too late now, but will promise to find it tomorrow.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 11:18 PM
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8. Eureka...here it is:
a thanks to "Go West Young Man":

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/07/342184.shtml

This phenomena of all the other candidates frozen in place, while a digital engineering is performed to make Obrador and Calderon switch, is the same vote fraud evidence between Kerry and Dean in the New Hampshire Primary in 2004. The only variable moving then between them is the vote fraud switcheroo that Kerry and Bush used to get rid of Dean in the New Hampshire Primary:

Title: Why Kerry afraid to speak on vote fraud? KERRY USED ES&S/DIEBOLD E-VOTE RIG TO OUST DEAN!
Author: worthy repost
Date: 2004.11.17 06:24
Description: KERRY USED ES&S VOTE MACHINES TO RIG THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY PRIMARY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, TO OUST DEAN, SEALING THE SKULL AND BONES'ERS IN EACH "PARTY." KERRY IS JUST AS GUILTY AS BUSH OF VOTE FRAUD. THAT IS WHY KERRY IS QUIET. Dean would have been the Democratic Party Ticket, legally,--until e-vote fraud came to the "rescue" for the aristocratic elites of the U.S. Moreover, did you know that VP George H. W. Bush won a wierd "unexpected upset" (due to e-vote machines?) in 1988 against Republican front runner Bob Dole. This happened in New Hampshire as well. Everyone knows that Kerry's father was high up in the CIA, just like Bush's father, right? Everyone knows that Kerry covered up for Bush in the Iran/Contra Commission (and covered up for the Bush family in the BCCI investigation), right? The Iran/Contras commission was the "Kerry Commission." BCCI was (partially) investigated by Kerry as well. Small world, eh? Kerry will avoid this like the plague, because he is part of the Bush family networks, and a beneficiary of vote fraud himself to get to the Democratic Ticket in 2004!


http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/11/303703.shtml

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 12:37 AM
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9. It will be interesting to see more on this.
And thank you for taking the time to dig the links up!:hug:

I've come to no conclusion, but Years ago I never trusted the kerry connection to S&B, and really felt, despite Kerry's stellar record, that between Bush and him it was a case of good cop/ bad cop, and said so in the past here on DU.

Maybe with the level of deepest corruption in place in America, someone like Kerry is about the best we can hope for until the American people clean up the mess and overhaul our system.
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 11:08 PM
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6. I hadn't heard that either. Very interesting. EOM
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