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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:28 PM
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Fresno Marijuana Initiative = voter fraud Republican Style!
Legalizing Marijuana - A New Republican Strategy?

August 3, 2006

By Mike Rhodes

The attractive young woman says to me, "would you sign our petition to legalize marijuana?" I don’t have to think twice and say "sure, where do I sign?" That is when it got interesting. She says, "Do you have your ID with you?" "Well, yes I do, but what does that have to do with..." I say as she responds with "oh, we just have to verify your ID." Thinking that this has something to do with making sure they have valid names for a ballot initiative I comply.


(Indybay)

As I’m filling out my name and address on the petition I notice that the young lady is filling out a very official looking form. Probably just the ballot initiative form, I think to myself. Then, she says "is it OK if I register you as a Republican?" "What?!?" I say "yes, I do mind! What are you doing?" She says that if I register Republican she will get an extra 10 cents. But, I complain, "I don’t want to re-register." She explains that this is just to update the records for the County Clerks office. I repeat that "I do not want or need to update my records." I am repeatedly told that it is OK and that they just want to update my voter registration records. She also tells me that she is working for the Republican party, being paid hourly, and that the ploy about the "10 cent bonus" was not accurate.

This Republican party employee goes on to tell me that she is there to attract people to the table that is set up in Fresno’s Courthouse Park, and that the legalize marijuana petition is just a prop. She confirmed that there is no ballot initiative to legalize marijuana. She said that the petition will be given to an elected official in Sacramento. I have my doubts about that.

At this point in the conversation, she called over her "boss" who was talking with someone a short distance away. I introduced myself as the editor of the Community Alliance newspaper and said I was interested in writing a story about the petition campaign and their registering people with the Republican party. I guess that wasn’t the right approach to get him to open up to me. The "boss" gave me no information. He even refused to give me a copy of the marijuana legalization petition I had just signed.

more...

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/08/03/18294421.php
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:35 PM
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1. this should be reported - not sure to whom, the local dems party or
find out who in the state system.

if you write for a newspaper, do an article ASAP

also contact local TV radio print media.

spread the word.

and next time someone like this asks for ID, ask to see theirs first and write it down :-)

Msongs
www.msongs.com/2007politicalcalendars.htm
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:39 PM
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3. Agreed. Feels like a registered repubs head count excuse for elec fraud!nt
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:27 PM
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9. Fraud is my belief
Edited on Sun Aug-06-06 04:28 PM by StClone
First to inflate the (R) registration number in support to conceal fraud. Second some of those registered may have been registered Dems and thus a switch.

The obvious signature of Republican manipulation is their theme of "in the name of preventing voter fraud" stricter rules on ids and address verification are needed. In reality they need these to suppress the vote and get the election close enough to steal. It's enough to make your gut crawl.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 06:37 PM
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13. well it's true that orwell is an apt reference for their oppo-speach.
blue skies
no child left behind
war for peace
freedom on the march
protecting americas interests...


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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 10:44 AM
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16. also ...
Clear Skies (not "blue")
Healthy Forests
Death Tax
Help America Vote Act

... and, of course ...

Compassionate Conservative :)
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 10:58 AM
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17. good ones. would love to see a 1984 poster w/Bush face and a list
of all the many newspeakisms.

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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 10:42 AM
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15. Yep, it's most likely that they planned on using those erroneous or ..
... invalid voter registrations to disenfranchise those signing the marijuana petition -- estimating that the signers would be mostly Dem or left-of-center. Thousands signing the marijuana petition would show up at their polling places in November, only to find that they'd been removed from the voter rolls due to erroneous or duplicate registrations.

(see: Blackwell, Ohio)
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:37 PM
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2. K&R - this belongs in USA Today or other National News format!
Get ready for A LOT OF THIS! If they can up the Republican registrations, they can justify whatever election fraud they commit with changed votes.

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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:49 PM
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4. ...and it shows how desperate the Repukes really are!
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 03:57 PM
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5. It shows how crooked they are
I first became aware of politics during the election of 1948. Repukes were crooked then and have never changed. If they can not win at the ballot box, they steal the ballot box. A repuke is never to be trusted with any god damn thing. They would lie when the truth would serve them better.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:12 PM
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6. Secretary of State Fraud Investigation Unit to investigate on Monday
Update

I received a call from an investigator from the Secretary of State Fraud Investigation Unit at 4 PM on Friday. He told me that it sounds like this group is in violation of an infraction of the law, related to signing people up to vote without telling them what you are doing. He said that he would get on the trail of these desperado’s first thing Monday morning.

As far as the question (see comment above) that maybe the Republican Party has “seen the light” and now supports legalizing marijuana - not a chance. The Republican Party does not support the legalization of marijuana.

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:19 PM
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7. When people fall for this, do they remind them
"Don't forget to vote"?

:rofl:
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:23 PM
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8. I'm guessing they are purposefullytrying to create duplicate registrations
that they can then kick off of the voter rolls.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 04:52 PM
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10. Yeah, this is probably not a very good time to be
messing around with registration, is it? The flim-flam artists are out in force. The only values the "values" party actually adheres to is the principle of the end justifying the means.
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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 06:12 PM
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11. CA Online Voter Fraud Complaint Form
No need to call in a vote fraud complaint in California. If you can't get through by phone, just fill out this online fraud complaint form:

http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/fraud_complaint_form.pdf

If your complaint involves a violation of state law (not federal law,) you don't even need to notarize the form.


Here is a list of fraud complaint forms for 24 states:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x425280#425301

If you know of a state that's missing from this list, or if links on this list need to be fixed, please go ahead and update it.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 06:36 PM
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12. Identical practice in 2004
I found this link in the comments to the Fresno article: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04297/400512.stm

By Dennis B. Roddy, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

An unknown number of University of Pittsburgh students who signed a petition to legalize medical marijuana have had their party registrations and polling places switched -- adding to the number of college students apparently targeted by a voter registration scam.

In the latest cases to come to light, students say they never filled out voter registration forms and that they believe their names, addresses and other details were simply copied onto a form by someone else.

"My polling place was switched to the basement of an apartment building in south Oakland," said Margaret Talarico, who usually votes at home in Upper St. Clair. She was among dozens of students approached as they walked across the campus last month and asked to sign a petition to legalize medical marijuana.

On other campuses, students have said they signed such a petition but were then asked to fill out the signature and address portions of voter registration forms in order to verify their identities. Those forms were later filled out to register the students as Republicans. In the latest case, students say they never saw a registration form.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 10:07 PM
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14. The real hypocrisy is that Republicans OPPOSE legal pot.
The same people who get in the way of a sane drug policy are using peoples's desire for a sane drug policy to prevent people from ever having a sane drug policy.

GOP stands for Go On Prevaricating.
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