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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 06:56 PM Original message |
Judge Throws Out CA-50 Case on Constitutional/Jurisdictional Grounds! |
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pepperbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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rumpel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. DAMN! |
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diva77 (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. what is SLAPP? thank you |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 07:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation |
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diva77 (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. thx for explanation! |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. That's a horrific outcome |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
4. Not being a lawyer |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Just another death knell for democracy. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I think we need to make Halloween a "V for Vendetta" event! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 09:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. With reservations I have to say I don't agree the sky is falling |
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GuvWurld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. "close enough to accurate" |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:47 AM Response to Reply #31 |
62. How do we ever know anything about any vote count? |
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GuvWurld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Transparency vs. Secrecy |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 11:53 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. The plaintiffs screwed themselves out of the recount |
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GuvWurld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:31 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. It is fair to question... |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. The registrar illegally DENIED the hand count |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Quop Warranto, slackmaster ?? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:00 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Where does the law say it can't be delegated to a commercial vendor? |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Since when do you care about the law? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. Ooh, a personal attack by BradBlog! |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:18 PM Response to Reply #93 |
105. I am quite grateful to have Brad representing my interests any day! |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 01:39 AM Response to Reply #72 |
106. Delegation to commercial vendors ?? Where |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:24 PM Response to Reply #69 |
90. Thank-you galloglas! |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
91. just for the record |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. oh it fell all right. This is not a question of busby or bilbray. This is |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
74. If a hand recount was free and obligatory the machines would be pointless |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #74 |
89. The machines are superflous, worse than superflous. They are flawed. |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #74 |
102. HCPB, slapmaster?? |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. can't solve problems of ambition and lust for power, so no election |
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Cookie wookie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 05:03 AM Response to Reply #74 |
107. The machines are supposed to make the process faster and cheaper? |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 09:48 AM Response to Reply #74 |
109. Very Untrue Slackmaster stmt (if recount's free & obligatory then OK) |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
78. Without Reservations, I have to say your head is in the clouds... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:55 PM Response to Reply #78 |
94. In case anyone is interested in what the LAW actually says |
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rumpel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Those machines were used under a "Conditional Certification" |
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rumpel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:34 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Here it is: |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
85. Somehow I'm missing the point! |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #85 |
111. it was just done in Fla in duvall county..welcome to our world in Fla! n/t |
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samsingh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. unfortunate |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
8. I thought the "swearing in" was a piece of theater |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. not so uncommon |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. But did Pelosi and Herseth have Diebold involved? |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. I think mostly ES&S in South Dakota |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 09:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. it's not the early swearing in ALONE, it's COMBINED with the claim |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 09:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. That's how I saw it. |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. So what next? |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. well, something like that n/t |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
81. Different than what happened in South Dakota... |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #81 |
97. "it had been well reported" |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 05:26 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. You've already been corrected on this misleading point otoh |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:13 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. huh? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I have no objection to doing it when the results are clear-cut |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 09:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. without objection on the House floor |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:13 AM Response to Reply #22 |
52. The house floor is not really the people though... |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 08:41 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. no, the House is not the people |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 08:57 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Not contesting is reasonable because no effective relief is likely |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. sigh |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:32 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. You're just insinuating what "could have been" done, a question similar |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:14 AM Response to Reply #61 |
66. I didn't think I was "insinuating" anything |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:56 AM Response to Reply #8 |
64. Swearings in are always pieces of theater |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:02 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. Shameless kick - Still nobody willing to say it's never happened before? |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 05:12 PM Response to Reply #73 |
99. False issue, slackmaster. It's not so much an early swearing |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:37 PM Response to Reply #64 |
82. Your posts are pieces of theater... |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
12. I will give money if they sue congress |
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rumpel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
14. unfortunately the station links |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
15. Denny Hastert is now our emperor? WTF? |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
17. Too bad; this whole thing could have been settled with a 10% audit. nt |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. OK.................. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 09:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. pretty funny, in that the 1% audit was all messed up, yet they said |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. Whether it was fine or not, it wasn't enough to confirm the outcome of |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
21. Now we begin to understand the need for the SPEED of electronic voting |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
23. Fookin scum bag judge |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 09:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Let's face it. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I for one, did not expect Busby to contest, nor would I MYSELF HAVE |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 06:57 AM Response to Reply #29 |
53. ersatz case law |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Yeah I know, . . . . . BUT |
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livvy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 08:04 AM Response to Reply #30 |
54. LOL.....and I'm with you. n/t |
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JimDandy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:16 AM Response to Reply #25 |
51. After today, robinlynne's candidate contract |
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New Earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. LOL |
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JimDandy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
48. ROFL Thank you for this FogerRox. |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
33. Well, here's what else is interesting: |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. we make that road by walking, but in 1984 |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Well I changed my original post (to which you responded), but |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
57. thanks -- my response does read strangely after your edit! |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:15 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. The judge's ruling recognizes that "who sits in Congress" was not part of |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
86. Well, perhaps an election Contest was the wrong strategy? |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. I think it was the right strategy... |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Well yeah, but think of the PRESS if that had happened! |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
95. well, perhaps we will see whether it was a "straw man" on appeal |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 05:19 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. You're doing a lot of legal reading here that just ends up confusing |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 08:49 AM Response to Reply #100 |
108. yes, I did |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 09:50 AM Response to Reply #108 |
110. Which lawyer are you talking to or working with for the source of your |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 10:53 AM Response to Reply #110 |
112. one might read the ruling |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #95 |
113. "appeal" |
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troubleinwinter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-31-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Ooops |
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JimDandy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:52 AM Response to Reply #33 |
50. We CAN'T make laws telling congress how to conduct |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
36. This is a sad day. We are going to be screwed in november. So the sitting |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Not so fast...Article I Sec 2 STILL says: |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 10:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. but the judge just overruled that article in favor of the article |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I agree, but at this point it seems to apply only to contested elections. |
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flashsmith (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-29-06 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
44. Am I reading it wrong? |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. What should have happened... |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:30 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. enjoining congress? that's funny. |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:41 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. You are correct. That is also when they should have done the 10% audit. nt |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:01 AM Response to Reply #45 |
65. Plaintiffs should have come up with the payment for the recount |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. And maybe, if they played their cards right, they could have gotten |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. They had no cards, of the sort you mention, to play... |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Thank you. Please see post #86 then. And also, |
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BradBlog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 01:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
83. Slackmaster should come up with a new piece of propoganda... |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:18 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I'm thinking the same thing myself |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
58. me too me too, can I be the governor? |
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kster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #58 |
67. Oh OK, I'll ask congress, after all they are the Deciders |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 11:08 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Really swell of them! |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
75. all *Congressional* elections, not all elections EOM |
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grizmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-30-06 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
63. "just a piece of paper" |
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