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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:13 PM
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Have you noticed Pelosi, Bill Clinton don't mention election fraud?
it's like taboo to mention and when we get ripped off again? -->then what?!!
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Gatchaman Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:15 PM
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1. They don't want to be seen as tin-foil hat wearing freaks
Talking about voter fraud without serious evidence to back it up causes them to lose credibility to a lot of people.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:27 PM
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8. Yes- the old "the media & GOP will be mean to us if we do that" excuse.
There are plenty of factual instances of "glitches" and "irregularities" from 2000, 2002 and 2004 that are documented fact. They could discuss these things factually- but then they would have to get their fingernails dirty and take a few hits.

The "strategists" who lost the last 3 elections tell them to leave even the factual or plausible instances alone- and I am not so sure that is a good idea- it leaves the door open for it to happen again.

I'd rather have them pick fights with proven liars who's only defense would be to call them names than have them set themselves up for more "glitches" and "irregularities" in the future.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:15 PM
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2. Yes, I notice
But it's ok to give him a pass on that yet bash the ones who are interested in election reform and wanting the make it better. Hint...
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:18 PM
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3. If there's talk, the people will lose faith in the system, how pathetic!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:19 PM
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4. I've been noticing that for nearly 6 frigging years
and it's not just the two of them.

The whole party leadership seems to be pussyfooting around the fact that the electoral process is totally FUBAR in most states.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:20 PM
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5. no major democrat ever mentions it
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 07:20 PM by leftchick
which is why one just might suspect collusion. In the greater scheme of things.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:20 PM
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6. Most of the DEM "leaders" are too frightened to discuss controversy.
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 07:21 PM by Dr Fate
The "strategists" who lost the last 3 elections whisper in their ears and tell them:

"If you say that, the GOP & media will say mean things about you- they will say you watch the X-Files and call you a conspiracy nut-better keep your powder dry and let it blow over..."

The fallacy in this "strategy" is that the GOP/media will slander, lie about and smear us whehter we fight or whether we act meek. Considering this, we may as well fight.

I think you have a viable point about this- and it is not just with elections- I can list many issues where the "strategists" who lost the last 3 elections told us to "Keep your powder dry" and were wrong.

I'm just hoping we win in November so that I will have to make less of these types of posts.

I want to support DEMS, but I cannot support or be silent about poor, weak media strategy.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:25 PM
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7. This election will be another Kerry moment - "The polls were wrong"
again!!!!!!!!!!!
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:42 PM
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9. GET OUT THE VOTE.... This Is My Mantra, I Will Keep Posting This!
I keep hearing how "well oiled" their MACHINE is, THIS FACT is what they will use IF the Repukes DO IT AGAIN!!

Get Out The Vote.... Leave NO DOUBT!!!

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 07:44 PM
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10. It's The Elephant in the Living Room Syndrome
soon every home will have its own pink elephant in living room, crowding the space and polluting the air.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 08:32 PM
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11. And judging by the last 6 years
and the glacial pace the Democratic so-called "leadership" takes and their desperately trying not to be too extreme or offend anyone, we'll all be behind barbed wire in domestic Halliburton internment camps by the time they finally figure it out and speak up. Habeus corpus is already down the drain.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:17 PM
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12. Yes, we need to nominate politicians who recognize the problem
or we're beating ourselves up for nothing.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:16 PM
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13. But what if the DEM establishment supports the loser of the nomination?
Or at least powerful elements of the establishment?

See Lieberman.
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