NY: Suffolk County Executive Stands Firm AGAINST E-Voting! (Please K&R! )

[Bill Bored]

Please K&R!

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Editorial Reply: Levy's Levers

Presented by: Steve Levy
Suffolk County Executive

November 14, 2006

Cablevision was critical of my decision to seek judicial clarification of the law implementing the Federal Help America Vote Act. The fact is, the act does not ban the use of our tried and true lever machines. It is our contention that New York's law permits local boards of election to continue using lever voting machines if they exercise the option by September 2007.

We in Suffolk are not content to blindly follow the leader in adopting new electronic machines with questionable technology susceptible to fraud and malfunction simply because other governments are moving in that direction. Why should New Yorkers be forced to spend millions because counties in Florida had troubles with hanging chads? Just think of what we could do in education or health care with the $200 million this will cost statewide.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with our lever machines. I can't recall them compromising a single election. However, new electronic machines could be a disaster in the making, opening the process to computer hackers and electronic glitches. The new technology is also intimidating for many of our not-so-computer savvy elderly citizens and poll monitors. So why are these machines being forced down our throats? Follow the money! There is a cottage industry that stands to make a fortune from the change over.

The county is not seeking to buck the law; we merely want an independent interpretation that could allow us to avoid the many problems we foresee on the horizon. When it comes to our proven lever machines, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[texpatriot2004]

1. Get rid of that Hack America's Vote Act nm

[stillcool]

2. I like that....

another good one I read recently..."the cover-up wing of the democratic party"

[Peace Patriot]

3. Yes, yes, YES! Hang in there, New York! DON'T DO IT! DONT convert to

hackable electronics, run on TRADE SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code, owned and controlled by Bushite corporations!

Stay with the old, reliable, and virtually unriggable lever machines! Hang on to them for dear life! And, if the rest of us had any sense--and less corruption among our election officials--we would be doing the same.

Steve Levy is A HERO! No need for this huge expense. Even less need for the uncertainty and insider hackability of corporate-controlled e-voting systems--except, of course, for their usefulness to fascists and 'christian' nutballs.

RESIST! There are only three or four states left in the entire country with reliable vote counting. A fascist coup--complete flipover of the vote--can be arranged at any time, everywhere else, and can occur, a) leaving no trace, and b) without recourse (no way to prove it, or reverse it). Don't be lulled by the Democratic victory in Congress (and do look closely at it--does Congress even now truly reflect the majority of Americans?). The capability for undetectable massive election fraud REMAINS, as long as there is "trade secret" programming code (private corporate control) in our election system.

[The Count]

4. FULLY AGREE!!!!!!UNlike the Diebold tool arguing elections weren't stolen

this guy is right - K&R

[Bill Bored]

5. Too bad those same polls were so far off in NY which has NO e-voting.

But hey whatever floats your boat!

(And before someone says how easy it is to hack our 20,000 lever machines, we had a 0.77% undervote rate in 2004 and THAT shows they weren't hacked.)

And no, we don't use GEMS central tabulators here either.

[Amaryllis]

8. What do you use for tabulation?

[truedelphi]

6. Voting activists in Illinois stood behind the lever machines

But I don't know if HAVA let them have it there way - I think they lost out to the electronic machines in the end

[Bill Bored]

7. Depends on whether the right arguments were sued, and on state laws. nt