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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:47 PM Original message |
Landslide Denied! Major Miscount in 2006 Election! BIG STORY! |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. EDA leader to be on Hartmann in a few mins--can we get this to Greatest? |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. So, they tried to steal it but didn't have their math right eh? nm |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. That's what happens when you try to create your own reality. |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Yeah, especially when you're the only one living in it - as they are |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
92. So true! |
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reichstag911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. They underestimated their unpopularity! |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Yeah, they failed to factor that into the equation ;-) nm |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
94. Even though Karl had THE math. n/t |
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chefgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. Well, theres a surprise, huh? |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. moved (posted in wrong spot) |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. yep, the huge turnout made it impossible for them to steal |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Not impossible. They just underestimated how much they would |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. the had a mechinisim in place to tweak it just as much as they thought they needed it. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. That would explain why some of the races were so tight! |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. And some of the lost close races, I believe |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Bingo that is the real reason.... |
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exlrrp (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
128. Don't forget Republican gerrymandering |
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AdvancedProgress (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
6. Something's gotta give... |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. This is about so much more than our individual votes. |
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rumpel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
7. big story, indeed! thanks n/t |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
10. Link to Hartmann's program here: |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. EDA's Sally Castleman on Hartmann right now! eom |
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keepthemhonest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
13. music |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. It's up to us to make sure they do! eom |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
19. they're probably going to call us sore winners |
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BadgerKid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. Nah, just throw their "mandate" back at them. n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. or consistant, win or lose n/t |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
20. Greatt o read about this organization n/t |
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Einsteinia (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
22. Someone (hint!) ought to figure out |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 03:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Well, James Carville doesn't have anything better to do right now... |
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StrictlyRockers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Boy would I be pissed at *, that he is so hated that they couldn't steal the election. |
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nebula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
24. The machines only able to steal 3-4 million votes |
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bobbie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
26. Sore Winnerman Sore Winnerman! |
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grizmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
27. This helps put the stolen elections back on the front burner |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Well I do hope not |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 06:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
59. And that gaping hole would be...? |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:20 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Well it seems to be |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. that could be an alternative hypothesis |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:31 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. two things |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:04 PM Response to Reply #84 |
142. two things |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #142 |
144. ? |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:59 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. when the Lindeman paper is published in a top journal, |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #145 |
148. And will you reserve judgement |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:42 PM Response to Reply #145 |
151. it would be nice if anyone discussed the OP |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:50 AM Response to Reply #69 |
100. No, it can't be ruled out |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:19 AM Response to Reply #100 |
106. The only way to finally put to bed this continuing debate |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:25 AM Response to Reply #106 |
111. I agree absolutely |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:31 AM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Fair enough. But that same criticism should apply equally to both sides. |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:33 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. No, he wasn't |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:39 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. And, just to belabor the point, |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:46 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Yes. |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:54 AM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Transparency of the count |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 07:17 AM Response to Reply #118 |
119. BTW, |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:56 AM Response to Reply #119 |
127. Canada is perfectly capable |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:39 AM Response to Reply #118 |
123. Yes |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:16 PM Response to Reply #106 |
169. If there argument is valid and the hypotheses true, then the conclusion is true. |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:09 AM Response to Reply #169 |
172. Well one of your givens |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:03 AM Response to Reply #172 |
178. I think you have to be careful to look at whether the shift is explained by known manipulations |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #178 |
180. Well, I have every sympathy |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #180 |
182. I agree with some of what you said, I don't suggest that all machines in all counties |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #182 |
184. I agree with all that |
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eomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #180 |
186. "The longevity of an error... |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #186 |
187. Indeed. |
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Sancho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:00 AM Response to Reply #100 |
122. The only scientifically credibility problem are pollsters and defenders! |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:49 AM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Are you serious? |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:02 AM Response to Reply #124 |
129. block that metaphor |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:06 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Granted |
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Sancho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:05 AM Response to Reply #124 |
140. So the expert answer is that it is an unsolvable problem?!?! |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #140 |
143. sigh |
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Sancho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:05 PM Response to Reply #143 |
146. Exactly...you said it. |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #146 |
149. Well, if you are interested |
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Sancho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #149 |
156. I understand... |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #156 |
158. Well, we are moving incrementally closer |
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Sancho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 05:40 PM Response to Reply #158 |
163. Ok...I've seen the red shift discussion and it makes sense.... |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:03 PM Response to Reply #163 |
164. Well, why don't you suggest it? |
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Sancho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #164 |
167. Now we're getting somewhere...and a little technical and more specific.... |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:17 AM Response to Reply #167 |
176. I am completely confused |
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Sancho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #124 |
154. This is where we disagree... |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:11 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. Well, I remain dubious |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #67 |
135. Hi Feeble - I see your doing your best to educate re memory problems in |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 10:31 AM Response to Reply #135 |
137. Well, here is Mark Lindeman's paper |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
28. And here I offer my personal apology to all those who said it |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. To believably throw an election you've got to be within the accepted |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. I would add...GOTV in 2008!! We hafta make it unpredictable. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:36 AM Response to Reply #36 |
91. They tilted the margin of error 100% to the GOP side |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
48. i didnt. after watching virg and mo, iknew once again it was happening |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
29. Well, it's not really a big story |
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Pokey Anderson (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 08:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
75. Febble, your refutations have caused huge commotions in the past. |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:21 AM Response to Reply #75 |
108. So do I |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:20 AM Response to Reply #29 |
90. Deleted message |
Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:22 AM Response to Reply #90 |
109. Not true |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:31 AM Response to Reply #90 |
133. Apologies and clarification |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #133 |
136. call me cynical, but... |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 10:32 AM Response to Reply #136 |
138. Well, he'd misunderstood my post |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
141. I disagree with your advice frankly |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:14 PM Response to Reply #141 |
147. Thanks for a civil response |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #147 |
165. Thanks for your response ~ I have followed your |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:51 PM Response to Reply #165 |
166. Thanks for getting back to me |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. Yes, that is more clear and obviously I misunderstood |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:43 PM Response to Reply #168 |
170. a point on weighting |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:56 AM Response to Reply #170 |
173. Thank you ~ |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #173 |
175. well, OK |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:57 AM Response to Reply #168 |
174. Well, here are some possible answers: |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #174 |
183. Febble, first, I want to thank you for your |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #183 |
185. Well, just one other point |
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Catrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:52 AM Response to Reply #185 |
188. I wonder if he was ever satisfied ~ sad |
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nam78_two (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
33. K and R! |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
34. I wonder how many of the Dem "losers" were liberal/progressive. |
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SaveAmerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
37. Hmmm, skewed 4%, Kissell was up 4%+ before the election then |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
38. I sent this baby to my local newspaper. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
39. So now that the Dems are back in charge |
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No DUplicitous DUpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
52. And besides being able to truly recount, There is no need for long lines.. |
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0rganism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. I love this rancher guy: "It's great. It's cool" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
40. Wow. K&R |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
41. Are "undercount" and "undervotes" connected? I would think so. |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. There is strong evidence for undervotes |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
42. We now are getting an idea of their workings. |
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In Truth We Trust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
43. K&R Hand Counted Paper Ballots NOW! |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
44. I want a recount of 2000, 2002, 2004 and this year. Now. n/t |
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pola (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
49. CALL YOUR REP - VOTE FOR HR 6200, paper ballot bill ! |
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pola (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. THROW THE MACHINES INTO BOSTON HARBOR ! |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 06:11 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Nah. Dump them on the Imperial Hog Farm in Crawford, Texas. |
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nznow (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 06:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Carville wanted Dean to put our money where the machines are. |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
82. welcome to DU nznow! |
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diva77 (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
51. I hope they have a chance to look into the initiatives in CA that were |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
53. I read an article by Greg Palast recently called "How They Stole The Mid-Term |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
54. They won't ever stop on their own. They will never stop, ever. |
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Zambero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
56. So this was Karl Rove's Ace-in-the-hole! |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 08:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
74. Ace-in-the-hole... |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
57. We need a brave dem house member who won by a landslide to |
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donkeyotay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
60. This is consistent with the post-election spin of the media |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
61. A group of us were chatting about how the exit polls (again) favored Dems |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 08:12 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. Just show them this line from the study |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:14 AM Response to Reply #72 |
105. Well, it's one of the many lines |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
62. So...Not dean's fault then? Okey d-okey. They didn't miss a trick! |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
63. It was "only 3 million" because of Rove's Targetting |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
65. My Favorite Line: |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
66. Remember what we were all telling each other before the election? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
68. exit polls are not a suitable means |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 09:28 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. And just because you found a corpse in your back yard-- |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 09:37 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. 4% is not a figurative corpse |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:53 AM Response to Reply #79 |
96. If the variation is always in the same direction it is |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 05:40 AM Response to Reply #96 |
102. So you are arguing against the various |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:24 AM Response to Reply #102 |
110. No, just saying that errors in polling that always go against the Dems-- |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:30 AM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Yes, this argument |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 07:24 AM Response to Reply #110 |
120. We need to fix or eliminate the machines |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:55 AM Response to Reply #120 |
126. Well said. |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:08 AM Response to Reply #96 |
103. It is a smoking gun |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:21 AM Response to Reply #103 |
107. It is impossible to know what random factors are at work-- |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:27 AM Response to Reply #107 |
112. Yes, |
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Cookie wookie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:19 AM Response to Reply #112 |
132. Thanks Febble for your contributions here. |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:31 AM Response to Reply #132 |
134. Well, I think reality-based argument is |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 09:41 PM Response to Reply #68 |
81. Exit Polls are used worldwide to verify elections and check for fraud. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:07 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. correction... they are misused then. |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:50 AM Response to Reply #81 |
101. No they are not |
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Einsteinia (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #81 |
152. UNTIL these pollsters reveal their raw data, then |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. Sigh |
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Einsteinia (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:48 PM Response to Reply #153 |
157. nyet! redux: Pt. 1 & 2 |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:16 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. I take exception to that, Einsteinia |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #157 |
160. "respectfully"? |
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Einsteinia (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. Febble & OTOH -- |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. OK, point by point |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:16 AM Response to Reply #68 |
89. Oh yes they are! And everybody goddamn well knows it. |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:07 AM Response to Reply #89 |
131. Well, I don't |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 06:09 AM Response to Reply #68 |
104. Absolutely |
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holboz (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
70. We're on our 4th set of recounts here in Benton County, AR |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
71. K&R |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
73. K&R |
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grmamo (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
76. Election Defense Alliance has another good read, hope this isn't a repeat |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
78. Transparent elections NOW. |
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rdmtimp (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. One of my favorite Moodies songs as well... |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 11:49 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Welcome to DU, rdmtimp. |
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A Simple Game (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:03 PM Response to Reply #78 |
179. Another Moody Blues fan, excellent! n/t |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
80. Ooops! Looks like they "misunderestimated"! nt |
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followthemoney (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-17-06 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
85. The purpose of comparing official vote totals to exit polls is to ... |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 12:06 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. that's right: There should be no hesitation in saying to our so-called elected representatives, |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 08:54 AM Response to Reply #88 |
125. Well I could think of better |
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southerncrone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
93. Must have let Chimpy do the math for 'um! |
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rndmprsn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
95. K+R |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
97. it doesn't surprise me |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 03:33 AM Response to Original message |
98. Is that 31% approval rate for * starting to make sense yet? |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
99. that should probably read "BIGGER landslide denied" . . . because . . . |
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Pooka Fey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
121. Kick!!!! & R'd |
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IWantAChange (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
139. Irrefutable or flawed - reports like this can be a lightning rod to help cause change.. |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 01:23 PM Response to Reply #139 |
150. I hope you are right. |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-18-06 09:53 PM Response to Reply #150 |
171. Have no fear. |
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AtLiberty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
177. Why isn't this thread on the home page? |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
181. Maybe James Carville's complaints are justified after all. |
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